archetype suggestion Archetype Proposal Amalgamation Thread

[Steampunkette]

Just now, Pbuckley818 said:

It is important to note that we are opening up 1-3 additional defensive powers without even touching Freezing rain (Which is a -Res and thus literally cannot be removed if we want to keep the powerset functional and desired) Thunderclap or Thunderstorm. if we made the support/Armor the primary things would end up even better, as it would be damage that takes a hit putting their DPS closer to a Tanker or Dominator depending on if it's melee or assault.

Then I'd suggest focusing the defensive abilities more narrowly. Aim for all the defensive powers to provide either Defense -or- Resistance if you're going to have 3-5 Defensive Powers. And, honestly, a Stealth Power doesn't -really- cut it for Defensive because most of the bonus is lost as soon as the fighting breaks out.

 

Also if the powerset is going to provide click powers and debuff/control it would be kind of strange to try and shoehorn in the GDefense 'Split Benefit' mechanic. That only -really- works if the whole, or a majority, of the set contributes to it.

[Pbuckley818]

10 minutes ago, Steampunkette said:

Then I'd suggest focusing the defensive abilities more narrowly. Aim for all the defensive powers to provide either Defense -or- Resistance if you're going to have 3-5 Defensive Powers. And, honestly, a Stealth Power doesn't -really- cut it for Defensive because most of the bonus is lost as soon as the fighting breaks out.

 

Also if the powerset is going to provide click powers and debuff/control it would be kind of strange to try and shoehorn in the GDefense 'Split Benefit' mechanic. That only -really- works if the whole, or a majority, of the set contributes to it.

Ok, ok. So Mist is probably gone too that's fine as we can still use the animation for a GDefense power. So for storms do we go Defense or Resists? I only really want to pull from Electic and Ice but as far as I am aware Elec is a bit of both and Ice is straight of Resist with debuffs. So that seems to suggest resist? at the same time I feel like storms is one of the few we could justify doing Def with, other than Kinetics, and maybe a Shields Veat Leadership combo.

 

I am thinking maybe 3-4 self Defense Buffs, 3 straight up support powers, and 2-3 group Defense/Support Hybrid Powers. How does that sound? 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Pbuckley818

[Steampunkette]

3 minutes ago, Pbuckley818 said:

Ok, ok. So Mist is probably gone too that's fine as we can still use the animation for a GDefense power. So for storms do we go Defense or Resists? I only really want to pull from Electic and Ice but as far as I am aware Elec is a bit of both and Ice is straight of Resist with debuffs. So that seems to suggest resist?

 

I am thinking maybe 3-4 self Defense Buffs, 3 straight up support powers, and 2-3 group Defense/Support Hybrid Powers. How does that sound? 

Ice is mostly defense with some resist. Electric is entirely Resist.

 

It sounds like it would have to be -really- focused in order to be survivable, and that it's straight support powers would probably be kind of an awkward shift... Go ahead and throw one together with some values and from there you can scale it and see how it does, y'know? 

[Rylas]

Borrowing from the self-buffing defender suggestion thread; what about combining some armor toggles and reducing their def/res numbers? Or raising their endurance cost? Whatever is needed for balance. 

[Zepp]

5 hours ago, Rylas said:

Borrowing from the self-buffing defender suggestion thread; what about combining some armor toggles and reducing their def/res numbers? Or raising their endurance cost? Whatever is needed for balance. 

If you take the Scrapper-level Defense Toggles from a set like Super Reflexes and Practiced Brawler, that is four powers that allow you sufficient survivability while opening the door for five Support powers. That could be used as a sort of baseline for a mixed set.

The other pattern would be to have a mindlink-like power. That may be OP as a tier one, or it may not be, depending on scaling. It would, however, provide a signature T1 ability, much like Stalker's Hide ability.

Potential numbers for a T1 mindlink-like power: 120s recharge (unaffected by mods) 120s duration. PBAoE (35' radius), +5% to all Defense, +10% to all Resist, +5% ToHit. It is a solid chunk of defense, resist, and to hot without being overwhelming.

Might have to figure out a way to fit status resists into the set somehow as well.

Edited September 11, 2019 by Zepp

[Zepp]

What I am thinking is that each set will be based on existing Support sets. It will have a Tier mindlink-like power, Focused Purpose: 120s recharge (unaffected by mods) 120s duration. PBAoE (35' radius), +5% to all Defense, +10% to all Resist, +5% ToHit {about}. It will also replace one power with the Manipulation set sustain power. When appropriate, Ally Heal will be converted to a form of Team heal. I've outlined the first three sets (alphabetically) with changes highlighted.

 

Cold Domination

Power	Level	Effect
Focused Purpose	1	PBAoE, Team +Defense (all), +Resist (all), +ToHit
Infrigidate	2	Ranged, Foe -Recharge, -SPD, -DEF(All), -DMG(Fire)
Snow Storm	4	Toggle: Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -Recharge, -SPD, -Fly
Frigid Protection	10	Toggle: PBAoE, Foe -Recharge, -Speed, -DMG, Self +Absorb over Time, +Recovery
Frostwork	16	Ranged, TAoE Ally +Max Health, +Res(Toxic)
Arctic Fog	20	Toggle: PBAoE, Team Stealth, +DEF(All), +Res(Fire, Cold, Energy, Slow) +Res(Status)
Benumb	28	Ranged, Foe -DMG, -End, -Regen, -Special
Sleet	35	Ranged (Location AoE), Minor DoT(Cold), Foe -Recharge, -SPD, -DEF(All), -Res(All)
Heat Loss	38	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -End, -SPD, -Res(All), Team +End, +Recovery

 

Dark Miasma

Power	Level	Effect
Focused Purpose	1	PBAoE, Team +Defense (all), +Resist (all), +ToHit
Tar Patch	2	Ranged (Location AoE), Foe -SPD, -Jump, -Fly, -Res(All)
Darkest Night	4	Toggle: Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -DMG, -To-Hit
Touch of the Beyond	10	Fear, Foe -ToHit, Self +Regen, +Rec
Twilight Grasp	16	Ranged, Foe -Regen, -DMG, -To-Hit, Team Heal
Shadow Fall	20	Toggle: PBAoE, Team Stealth, +DEF(All), +Res(Energy, Negative, Psionics, Fear)  +Res(Status)
Fearsome Stare	28	Ranged (Cone), Foe Fear, -To-Hit
Petrifying Gaze	35	Ranged, Foe Hold
Dark Servant	38	Summon Dark Servant: Ranged, Debuff, Special

 

Kinetics

Power	Level	Effect
Focused Purpose	1	PBAoE, Team +Defense (all), +Resist (all), +ToHit
Transfusion	2	Ranged, Foe -End, -Regen, Team Heal
Siphon Power	4	Ranged, Foe -DMG, Team +DMG
Energize	10	Self Endurance Discount, Heal, +Regen
Siphon Speed	16	Ranged, Foe -SPD, Self +Recharge, +SPD
Increased Density	20	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Ally +Res(Smash, Energy, Disorient, Hold, Immobilize, Knockback), -SPD(Special)
Speed Boost	28	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Ally +Recharge, +SPD, +Recovery, +Res(Slow)
Transference	35	Ranged, Foe -End, Team +End
Fulcrum Shift	38	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -DMG, Team +DMG

 

Edited September 11, 2019 by Zepp

[Steampunkette]

5% Defense is not enough to keep a character alive who hangs out in melee. Especially one who throws out a ton of click debuffs and buffs and heals instead of killing the things that want them dead. Slotted to ED that' 7.25% Defense.

 

Take a look at the Arachnos Soldiers. They're 'Kind Of' what you want. Melee and Ranged primary, Defensive Secondary with AoE Buffs, and a single Target and an AoE Debuff (Surveillance and Venom Grenade)

 

They get 3 Defensive Powers focused on Defense and wind up with 27.7% Defense to everything but Ranged. Ranged is 39.6% once 3 slotted with defensive IOs at 50, though it should be noted the values are closer to 22% and 34% outside of their Cloaking Device Stealth. They also get a smattering of resist from two powers as well. That's not Set Bonuses. That is the basic defense values of the powers in the set.

 

And that's -without- having to spend a whole bunch of animation cycles every fight dropping Debuffs and heals and stuff.

 

The "Add some Defense to Support Sets" or "Add some Support to Defense Sets" model is untenable. Support Sets aren't designed to survive in or near melee. 

 

Also giving every single member of the Archetype a "Mind Link" power at level 1 is -dull-. At least Stalkers get a damage bonus for every one of them using Hide and need it to make thematic sense. "Focused Purpose" doesn't thematically tie into any powerset except MAYBE Empathy if you go with the idea that you're sharing your drive or something like that.

 

The Arachnos Soldier also starts out grabbing their own defensive and supportive abilities (Wolf/Bane Armor, Combat Training Defensive, Combat Training Offensive) and doesn't get access to Tactical Training Maneuvers 'til level 10 at the earliest. And you're suggesting a more powerful (Click v Toggle) ability that allows allies to gather for the buff and then run off on their own afterward for 2 minutes before reapplication.

Edited September 11, 2019 by Steampunkette

[Zepp]

Edit: I was thinking of Focused Purpose as being thematic to the AT, an AT that survives and supports...

 

So we are back to mixing sets. If three is a reasonable number of set powers for that chunk of defense/resist, we could look at combining some of the ideas thrown out. Three defense or resist focused powers with two parts, a standard toggle and a team buff. The buff lasts about 15s to allow teammates to spread out as long as you pass by them once every 15s or so. The defensive sets should aim for approximately 22% with one standout area and possibly one weak area. Resist sets should aim for around 45% resist with standout and/or weak areas. I would suggest keeping the sustains from the Manipulation sets, this will allow quicker recovery when repositioning.

 

Basically that would give us three Armor powers, one sustain from Manipulation, and five Support  powers. One of those Support  powers ought to be an AoE heal, while the others are open.

 

Does that sound workable?

 

T1 Armor 1 (Melee or S/L)

T2 Support Set AoE Heal

T3 Armor 2 (Ranged or E/N/P)

T4 Manipulation Sustain

T5 Support 1

T6 Armor 3 (AoE or F/I/T)

T7 Support 2

T8 Support 3

T9 Support 4

Edited September 11, 2019 by Zepp

[Steampunkette]

9 minutes ago, Zepp said:

So we are back to mixing sets. If three is a reasonable number of set powers for that chunk of defense/resist, we could look at combining some of the ideas thrown out. Three defense or resist focused powers with two parts, a standard toggle and a team buff. The buff lasts about 15s to allow teammates to spread out as long as you pass by them once every 15s or so. The defensive sets should aim for approximately 22% with one standout area and possibly one weak area. Resist sets should aim for around 45% resist with standout and/or weak areas. I would suggest keeping the sustains from the Manipulation sets, this will allow quicker recovery when repositioning.

 

Basically that would give us three Armor powers, one sustain from Manipulation, and five Support  powers. One of those Support  powers ought to be an AoE heal, while the others are open.

 

Does that sound workable?

So long as all three armors focus on the same thing, maaaaaaaaybe... But then you're gonna run the risk of marginalizing Scrappers.

 

For the sake of argument let's use the Electric/Storm combo that was previously presented.

 

Let's give them Charged Armor, Conductive Shield, and Grounded (Just so they don't have 3 toggles). They wind up with 41% S/L/N/F/C and capped Energy if they slot 3 with SOs. Not even IOs or Sets. Just some generic 3-slotted Resistance.

 

So you're losing a PBAoE Damage Aura, a Mez Protection, Faster Recharge, End Recovery, and a Self-Heal. Also a Tier 9 that basically no one uses 'cause of the Crash. But you've still got the three core Survival Powers of an Electric Scrapper. 

 

And then you're going to grab an AoE (Also Self) Heal, Debuffs, a Pet, a Sustain power to replace the lost sustain of Power Sink and/or Energize...

 

Now if we do the GDefense Thing, where stuff gets split into enhanceable and unenhanceable components, then you're looking at 33% Resistance to most attacks and still capped resistance to Energy with 77% Energy Res... That's a -bit- less Toe-Squishy for the Scrappers but I'm not sure if it's tough enough to hang in melee. My gut feeling says that it's going to have a lot of trouble unless it's fighting predominantly Energy Opponents...

 

But I -THINK- it might be workable. Especially since they'd also be granting nearby allies 19.92% to most damage types and 58% to Energy. Hmm... In retrospect that might be a -bit- high. But we could tinker with the values to bring that 58% down closer to 30%, I'm certain.

[Zepp]

I have to check the Composition powers on Rebirth to make sure this is not too similar to those.

On 9/6/2019 at 6:25 AM, Rikmach said:

I've played it on the Rebirth Test Server, and it's pretty fun . . . As for compositions...   They're interesting.  They usually mix the key defensive powers of a Defense Set with some of the powers of a thematically similar support set, usually ones that debuff the enemy, or buff the whole team.  This means sometimes "key" support powers are missing, but that seems to be the cost of being able to take a decent hit.   The net effect ends up similar to the "Jack of all Trades, Master of None" Niche that EATs have, except, you know, much more customizable.

 

The Composition sets are Atomospheric Composition (Electric Armor/Storm Summoning), Dark Composition (Dark Armor/Dark Miasma), Energy Composition (Energy Aura/Kinetics), Fiery Composition (Fiery Armor/Thermal Radiation), Ice Composition (Ice Armor/Cold Domination), Organic Composition (Organic Armor/Nature Affinity), Pain Focusing (Pain Domination/Willpower), Radiation Composition (Radiation Armor/Radiation Emission), Reconstructive Healing (Regeneration/Empathy), Stone Composition (Stone Armor/Earth Control's Debuff powers), and Temporal Reaction (Time Manipulation/Super Reflexes).

 

Most of them are decent and fun, even with minor complains (Atmospheric composition and Dark Composition skip some of the better powers of their support sets, and keep some real dogs around, but they're still solid), and some surprising upsides (Since it doesn't have Granite Armor, Stone Composition lets you actually have a character that uses the normal stone armor powers without losing out on using a powerful defensive power), but two stand out as being... problematic.   Temporal Reaction takes it's sweet time giving you decent defenses, especially compared to the other sets, and when it finally gets it, requires much more effort to maintain and...

 

man, Reconstructive Healing.  How do you take a weak defense set like Regeneration and make it *worse*!?    It really needs a lot of work, the poor thing.

[Steampunkette]

15 hours ago, Zepp said:

I have to check the Composition powers on Rebirth to make sure this is not too similar to those.

 

They're going to be pretty much exactly the same, Zepp. And the class is going to be pretty much exactly the same.

 

Y'all are approaching it from the same concept: A Support Set with some Defense powers. Unless you wilfully break up the themes or something (Like making it Invuln/Storm and Willpower/Dark) you're going to end up in the exact same place.

 

S'just how it is.

 

It's part of why I disagreed with the idea of trying to do it as Assault/Support/Defense in the first place and offered up the GDefense powerset idea: It would be different from the Rebirth Guardian.

 

Assault/Defense/Control would have -some- uniqueness, as would Melee/GDefense. But if you're gonna make Composition sets by a different name... *shrug*

[Zepp]

In terms of differentiation, I think a good inherent could go a long way to differentiating it.

[Steampunkette]

17 minutes ago, Zepp said:

In terms of differentiation, I think a good inherent could go a long way to differentiating it.

I am highly disinclined to agree with that.

 

You'd need to differentiate it on the level of Stalker to Scrapper for it to feel like a different class, and even those two feel -awfully- similar a lot of the time. They're differentiated not just by inherent, which is REALLY SIMILAR,  but by core mechanics, AoE vs ST focus, HP values, and the way their powers work. Mainly that Taunt Aura or Area Damage Toggles tend to get either cut or turned into Status Effect Toggles.

[Rikmach]

Well, if you're going to do support/defense, and there's already a proven, functioning concept, why put in the effort? especially if they're freely going to release them?  Seems like a bunch of unnecessary work for a payoff that might not be any better.

Edited September 12, 2019 by Rikmach

[Steampunkette]

S'why I was suggesting Assault/Defense-Control, instead.

 

It'd be -different- from something that has been tried and was largely met with a lukewarm response the first time around.

[Zepp]

I would definitely like a set that is Assault/{Armor/Control}, but based on the voting, it seems like the support path is more popular.

 

Thinking about {Armor/Control} sets let's look at what one might look like:

 

Spoiler

 

Dark Lockdown (Dark Armor + Darkness Control + Darkness Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Dark Embrace	1	Toggle: Self +Res(Smash, Lethal, Negative, Toxic) (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Dark Grasp	2	Ranged, Moderate DMG(Negative), Foe Hold, -To Hit
Murky Cloud	4	Toggle: Self +Res(Fire, Cold, Energy, Negative, End Drain) (Add +Res(Psionic, Fear, Sleep, Confuse))
Touch of the Beyond	10	Fear, Foe -ToHit, Self +Regeneration, +Recovery
Living Shadows	16	Ranged (Cone), Minor DoT(Negative), Foe Immobilize, -To Hit, -Fly
Cloak of Darkness	20	Toggle: Self Stealth, +DEF(All), +Res(Immobilize), +Perception (Add +Res(Hold))
Haunt	28	Foe Targeted, Summon Shades
Shadow Field	35	Target (Location AoE), Foe Hold, -To Hit
Umbra Beast	38	Summon Umbra Beast

 

Earthy Lockdown (Stone Armor + Earth Control + Atomic Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Rock Armor	1	Toggle: Self +DEF(Smash, Lethal), +Res(DEF Debuff) (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Fossilize	2	Ranged, Foe Hold, -Def
Crystal Armor	4	Toggle: Self +DEF(Energy, Negative), +Res(DEF Debuff) (Add +Def(Fire/Cold))
Metabolic Acceleration	10	Toggle: Self +Recharge, + Special, +Regeneration, +Recovery, +Res(Hold, Stun, Sleep, Immob, End)
Stone Cages	16	Targeted AoE, Foe Immobilise, -Def, -Flight
Minerals	20	Toggle: Self +DEF(Psionic), +Res(Confuse), +Perception (Add +Res(Toxic, Fear))
Earthquake	28	Targeted Location AoE, Foe Knockdown –ACC, -Def
Volcanic Gasses	35	Targeted Location AoE, Pulsing Foe Hold
Animate Stone	38	Summon Pet

 

Electric Lockdown (Electric Armor + Electric Control + Electricity Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Charged Armor	1	Toggle: Self +Res(Smash, Lethal, Energy) (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Tesla Cage	2	Ranged, Moderate DMG(Energy), Foe Hold, -End
Conductive Shield	4	Toggle: Self +Res(Fire, Cold, Energy, Negative) (Add +Res(Fear, Sleep, Confuse))
Force of Thunder	10	PBAoE, Foe Disorient, Knockback, Self +Regeneration, +Recovery
Chain Fences	16	Ranged AoE, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Immobilize, -End, -Fly
Static Shield	20	Toggle: Self +Res(Psionics, Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Teleport, End Drain, -Recovery) (Add +Res(Hold, Immobilize))
Jolting Chain	28	Ranged Chain AoE, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Knockdown, -End
Paralyzing Blast	35	Ranged AoE, Foe Hold, -End
Gremlins	38	Summon Gremlins: Melee Minor DMG(Energy)

 

Fiery Lockdown (Fiery Aura + Fire Control + Fire Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Fire Shield	1	Toggle: Self +Res(Smash, Lethal, Fire, Cold, Disorient) (Add +Res(Psionic, Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Char	2	Ranged, Foe Hold, -Def
Plasma Shield	4	Toggle: Self +Res(Fire, Energy, Negative, Hold, Sleep) (Add +Res(Fire/Cold))
Cauterizing Aura	10	Toggle: PBAoE, Minor DoT(Fire), Self  +Heal Over Time, +Recovery
Fire Cages	16	Targeted AoE, Foe Immobilise, -Def, -Flight
Temperature Protection	20	Auto: Self +Res(Fire, Cold, -Recharge, -SPD, -Jump) (Add +Res(Toxic))
Hot Feet	28	Toggle, PBAoE, Minor Damage (Fire), Foe Slow
Cinders	35	PBAoE, Foe Hold
Fire Imps	38	Summon three Imps

 

Gravitic Lockdown (Invulnerability + Gravity Control + Temporal Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Temp Invulnerability	1	Toggle: Self +Res(Smash, Lethal) (Add +Res(Psionic, Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Gravity Distortion	2	Ranged, Moderate DoT(Smash), Foe Hold
Unyielding	4	Toggle: Self +Res(All DMG but Psionics, Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Immobilize, Knockback) (Add +Res(Fear, Confuse))
Temporal Healing	10	Self  +Absorb, +Recovery, +Res(Slow, Regen Debuff)
Crushing Field	16	Targeted AoE, Minor DoT (Smash), Foe Immobilize
Invincibility	20	Toggle: PBAoE, Foe Taunt, Self +DEF(All DMG but Psionics), +To Hit (Remove Foe Taunt)
Wormhole	28	Ranged foe teleport, Foe disorient, knockback
Gravity Distortion Field	35	Targeted AoE, Foe Hold
Singularity	38	Summon Singularity

 

Icy Lockdown (Ice Armor + Ice Control + Ice Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Frozen Armor	1	Toggle: Self +DEF(Smash/Lethal), +Res(Fire, Cold, DEF Debuff) (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Block of Ice	2	Ranged, Moderate Damage (Cold) Foe: Hold -Speed -Recharge
Wet Ice	4	Toggle: Self +DEF(All but Psionics), +Res(Cold, Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Knockback, -Recharge, -SPD, -Jump, DEF Debuff) (Add +Res(Fear))
Frigid Protection	10	Toggle: PBAoE, Foe -Recharge, -Speed, -DMG, Self +Absorb over Time, +Recovery
Frostbite	16	Targeted AoE, Minor Damage over Time (Cold), Foe Immobilize -Speed -Recharge
Glacial Armor	20	Toggle: Self +DEF(Energy, Negative), +Res(Cold, DEF Debuff), +Perception (Add +Res(Psionic, Toxic, Confuse))
Ice Slick	28	Targeted Location Area of Effect, Foe Knockdown -Speed
Glacier	35	Point Blank Area of Effect, Foe: Hold, -Recharge, -Speed
Jack Frost	38	Summon Jack Frost: Melee Moderate Damage (Cold)

 

Illusory Lockdown (Super Reflexes + Illusion Control + Devices)

Power	Level	Effect
Focused Fighting	1	Toggle: Self +DEF(Melee), +Res(Confuse, DEF Debuff) (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Blind	2	Ranged, Moderate DMG(Psionic), Foe Hold, +Special (AoE Sleep)
Focused Senses	4	Toggle: Self +DEF(Ranged), +Res(DEF Debuff), +Perception (Add +Res(Fear, Sleep, Confuse))
Field Operative	10	Toggle: Self Stealth, +Def(All), +Special, +Regeneration, +Recovery (Increase Stealth to 200ft, Add Threat Level -100%)
Phantom Army	16	Summon Decoys: Ranged Minor DMG(Energy/Special (Illusionary Damage Heal-Back))
Evasion	20	Toggle: Self +DEF(AoE), +Res(DEF Debuff) (Add +Res(Hold, Immobilize))
Spectral Terror	28	Summon Terror: Ranged, Fear
Flash	35	PBAoE, Foe Hold
Phantasm	38	Summon Phantasm: Ranged, Moderate DMG(Energy)

 

Mental Lockdown (Willpower + Mind Control + Mental Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
High Pain Tolerance	1	Auto: Self +Res(All), +Max Health (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Dominate	2	Ranged, Moderate DMG(Psionic), Foe Hold
Indomitable Will	4	Toggle: Self +DEF(Psionic), +Res(Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Fear, Confusion, Knockback) (Add +Res(Fear, Sleep, Confuse))
Drain Psyche	10	PBAoE Foe -Regen, -Recovery; Self +Regen, +Recovery
Confuse	16	Ranged, Foe Confuse
Heightened Senses	20	Toggle: Self +DEF(All DMG but Psionics), +Res(DEF Debuff), +Perception (Add +Res(Immobilize))
Terrify	28	Ranged (Cone), Minor DMG(Psionic), Foe Fear(Special)
Total Domination	35	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Hold
Mass Confusion	38	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Confuse

 

Natural Lockdown (Bio Armor + Plant Control + Plant Manipulation)

Power	Level	Effect
Hardened Carapace	1	Self Toggle, +Res(Lethal, Smash, Toxic, Disorient, Sleep), +Regen (Add +Res(Knockback, Repel, Taunt, Teleport))
Strangler	2	Ranged, Moderate DoT(Smashing), Foe Hold
Environmental Modification	4	Self Toggle, +Res(Hold, Knockdown, Immobilize), +DefRes(Energy, Negative, Fire, Cold, Psionic) (Add +Res(Fear, Sleep))
Wild Fortress	10	Self +Absorb, +Recovery, +Res(Toxic, Confuse)
Roots	16	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Minor DoT(Smashing/Lethal), Foe Immobilize
Evolving Armor	20	Self Toggle, +Res(All), Foe -Res(All), Taunt, (Remove Taunt, Add +Res(Immobilize))
Carrion Creepers	28	Summon Creepers: Ranged (Location AoE), Foe -SPD, -Fly, -Jump
Vines	35	Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Hold
Fly Trap	38	Summon Fly Trap: Ranged, Control, Special

 

Would that step on Dom's feet too much?

Edited September 13, 2019 by Zepp

[Zepp]

We haven't come to a consensus about the secondary quite yet, but perhaps we should talk about what sort of inherent we should be looking at for an Assault primary set...