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i guess i would be ok with it more if the actual devs said it, opposed to randoms who have nothing to do with development. it often seems like people use the "dev time" reason when they dislike an idea, instead of actual inside knowledge or direct confirmation.

This is my updated build in case anyone was wondering i jsut realized i have an extra lotg in vengeance which goes over 5 in the build you can slot anything or put any other one slot wonder there, my fault:) actually replacing the LOTG in Shadow meld with a +5 Recharge io brings the recharge of it down even farther:)

i understand your reasoning i personally prefer recharge over max HP at least on stalkers i can see more of an argument for that on tankers, i might look at that for some of my tankers

I am not sure about Beowulfs build, but with my build i 6 slot all def toggles with one lotg unique and 5 red fortunes, great set bonus and amazing recharge Disregard this, i realized this is an older version of my current build i will repost updates:) my current build does indeed slot 1 lotg and 5 red fortune:)

honestly i normally havent had much issue with your posts, and i have actually been shocked at the amount of negativity coming from your posts lately and it made me think differently about you...those layer cakes caves are not especially hard and while i admit that i have never had to lead people through them as you have, i dont look at that as challenging content, just maybe people who are new to the game or something like that, i dont want to take challenge out of the game but any idea i have posted about increasing difficulty has been met with sarcasm, abrupt dismissal, and brick walls. I apologize for anything i might have said in a negative light about you as looking back it was uncalled for. i honestly would prefer if the devs went through and FIXED those caves to look nicer, work better, but almost any argument in favor of this "amount of work" always ends up in that would take to much dev time, they are all volunteers and they have better things to do. so my addition to this topic was to possible remove the layer cake cave and update it with something better , while maintaining the three dimensional aspect, or at the very least maybe same basic design but using the snake cave style of caves instead, this wouldnt remove what you like about those caves, it wouldnt take away from the learn the map style layer cake functionality but it would widen the tunnels a bit so i can create a taller character and not have my head through the roof. Again i apologize for speaking out of turn in regards to my assumption about your negativity, my fault for reading between the lines without reading the lines. I will disagree with one of your points, i learned the maps, its not something that was a challenge for me , but i am asking them to at least be changed to work better, so at least one person would like to see work done on those maps for the better,and removing them wouldnt offend me at all. if they took the time to actually redesign them and make them more functional and better looking then i would be happy but after so many times of being told that "that would take too much dev time" i wonder if just removing them would be the only answer or ignoring it and i just grumble about it when i get those maps randomly. i am more than a little irritated when "too much dev time" is a valid argument against ideas being put forward. i over reacted towards you and i shouldnt have

I apologize for my mistake, i had thought you were interested in coming to these forums to have intellectual conversation regarding the game we all love, instead i now realize you dont care about anything and just here to say no vote or wrong and you are entitled to your opinion, i guess i feel like intellectual conversation is better. to each their own.

this is an interesting take on it, i think a lot of us would agree that the issue with the caves isnt in the shape, but the fact that mobs get lost in the mix and having to go back and hunt for the stray is just annoying(not difficult)perhaps adjusting the "hitbox" of the caves so that mobs dont get stuck in walls would be an even better option.

actually in a forum like this is it is considered very dismissive, at least with other people they state their opinion and say this is why i think this way, and it can be discussed, maybe coming to a compromise. for example you love blue caves and want more maps to be designed in this fashion. I can come in and say "thats dumb" ...or i can say hrm maybe instead of blue caves perhaps another added 3D style map that is more pleasing to the eye , and from there i would state examples...then of course you could come back and retort....it makes everything nicer , more polite, and reasonable. this isnt a vote, this is a discussion, this may be why people are having issue with your simplistic responses.

Ok first things first, you are comparing apples to oranges, if i am a paying customer in a restaurant i have every right to complain if the food is not worth what i payed for it. In a Forum such as this it is usually a place for discussion and argument (not fight but classical argument). Secondly if a person goes into a suggestion forum saying NO or this sucks, without reasoning, then how can that idea be improved upon. I am sorry that you feel insulted buy what i said but maybe it is because you might agree with me and understand where i am coming from, you just do not want to admit it. I am not a simpleton who feels respect is earned i give Respect until a person loses that respect via their own actions. this is a place where ideas can be shared and worked on and maybe compromised to become good for everybody else. so instead of coming into this from a place of contrariness, perhaps come forma place of discussion and that maybe an idea might be taken from a rough draft to a polished product. This is why i feel like it is a horrible trend of somebody saying "this idea sucks" without thought or reasoning is a horrible trend and needs to be changed.

you are incorrect, this is not what a real challenge is, this is poor map design. there are far better ways to add the 3d element to maps without the horrible architecture of the layer cake cave maps, the pool maps are actually fine. the fact that you believe that this is a challenge really makes me question your idea of challenge altogether. your dismissal of those people also make me wonder if you think this game is super hard and you are one of those elite that know better than everyone. this game isnt hard, the challenge in this game is learning how IO sets can go together and time management so you can get said resources to acquire said IOs. this is the third thread i have looked at where you have just crap on other peoples ideas, i am beginning to believe you are just here to be contrary.

i have noticed a horrible trend of people literally just saying no to things without even explaining there reasoning, i have stopped offering suggestions because of it. but i still offer support to others that still have faith. I personally think you have a point, removing them from the rotation would be easiest solution, adding one or two maps copy pasted from red side (specifically the larger snake maps) to take their place. this wouldnt be a huge burden on developer resources, no new maps need to be created. Great idea! @JayboH

or, kill the sapper before that happens..this is a non issue

honestly the alternative to this is to fix domination to be more like fury, something that gets better as the bar fills without the need for a clicky to activate it! and also change the clicky mez protects to toggles like they are in newers sets. no bot problem, no power creep, just lateral changes that make things better for all

i guess i hope that TW doesnt become the next super strength or EM because ...apparently i am the only one hre that believes that the devs can do what i suggssted...i was brought up on if it is worth doing it is worth doing right ...apparently the majority say if it is easier do it and damn the consequences ... this is another thing i have a problem with , people who dont care to read before responding, i literally addressed this power creep within the sentence you quoted, and it is exactly why i said what i said...adding higher difficulty settings and more incarnate content would bring back the difficulty you want. This is why nerfing TW doesnt change anything... but the majority does not want to change what really needs changing as it would take TOO much work or not enough return on investment...also since no cash is changing hands that investment is purely time... i have been beaten by the majority, and i am wondering why suggesstion forums even exist if its too difficult to do any of them

i guess i am in the minority then. i see no reason not to assume that this will continue for a long time as the code is "in the wind" as they say. that being said, maybe you are right and i should forget about posting ideas and get back to playing this might be the last day after all...

why wouldnt we want to talk about long term life of the game...

fair enough but maybe what i have to say would change some minds or maybe i am just talking without anybody listening...either way my thoughts are out there and as you said it is not my place to claim wether or not the devs are going to do anything at all

Also im going to mention the last few sets that were "OP" and were nerfed, then you can telll me if those were good changes or overnerfs that went way to far: Super Strength Kinetic Melee Energy Melee Now as another thought Buffs that the homecoming team has done to improve things: MM pet AI Tanker Changes Behind the scene DB changes so with this in mind, and i am certain i am missing something and you will definitely point them out, i want you to think about what they have done so far and how quickly it has been done

look i am not a coder and i am really sick of people stating developer time as a reason not to do things... you are implying that this needs to happen right now and if it doesnt happen the ship sinks...i am talking about three ideas that will not only help the long term life of the game but also prevent people getting upset...and finally revisiting old sets that should have been buffed before titan weapons was a thing. you are ignoring that people are and have been complaining about things being too easy and lacking challenge. You are forgetting that while yes my ideas will take exponentially longer to do, over all the homecoming developers are who decides what is worth there time and energy, and i am willing to bet you have no diea what they want or can do. i am advocating for long term life of the game, long lasting changes that will not interfere with how anybody else plays the game, and brings lower performing power sets up to current standards. no it is not the nerf TW idea that would make people feel good right now, its the long term happiness and health of the game, that would make people feel good for the long term without alienating anyone.

my problem is this and it is the reason i will always advocate for buffs instead of nerfs...is balance doesnt matter in PVE...are bosses dying...GMs...AVs?...they are and they are dying without people being forced to play TW or BIO or fire blast or bots/time or yadda yadda yadda. there is always going to be an outlier that makes people feel sad enough to complain, and then if the devs nerf this then the people who have been playing it will get pissed... with my sugesstion the reason for the sadness goes away. the actual problem is that later in development, the sets were made had more thought and ingenuity put into them, making them 1) more fun 2) more interactive 3) more suited to modern players. you guys want to balance the game to dark melee and Ice Control instead of bringing Dark Melee and Ice Control up to TW and Plant Control. this doesnt make sense to me. Stop Nerfing Start Buffing. Im trying to remove the reason for being sad and you guys are talking about giving people tissues

i have thought of this and understand that for some reason this is a limiting factor for a lot of people...i am not saying this needs to be done RIGHT NOW THIS SECOND...i am saying why not start the process, begin with adding the +5 setting and then over time bump up sets to TW levels and then start adding new content, could take years but as long as this nerf crap stops id be happy.

so this i completely disagree with, one of the reasons i play this game is because of what IO set bonuses can do to my characters. powers like victory rush and Assault for that matter are powers that i consider not worth taking as there normal effects dont offer me much and they cant slot for set bonuses. I also want to bring up Super Strength at this moment ... people claimed it was OP because you could stack recharge and double stack rage...at the time the developers nerfed it into oblivion and now it is "balanced" with the idea that you are going to double stack Rage. so if we continue on this path TW will become the next Super Strength. My sugesstion is this: Leave nerfs for the toy section in Walmart, buff the sets that are underperforming to TW levels and institute a +5 difficulty level via notoriety, and begin work on introducing new story content for incarnates and beyond.

how can i use this for empyrean merits...i saw earlier in the thread a possible way but i tried it and it did not work for me ...

i 6 slot with the numinas proc and 5 panaceas including the panacea proc...gets two mandatory procs and 7.5% recharge, with a multitude of testing you do not need to slot any end mod into it to achieve high numbers of recovery. as far as accuracy i usually get my accuracy from tactics and kismet unique for twilight, i use touch of the nictus acc/heal/absorb and 5 slots panacea (no proc because it is unique) for another 7.5% recharge

exactly this , and as i said you shouldn't be using parasitic aura by itself you should always be clicking dna siphon and ablative to maintain the absorb buffer and the +regen flowing. to be clear BIO isnt immortal, at times things happen that cause a cascade of failures, but for most things it is damn strong