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This modified build has given up the recharge in order to soft cap s/l/melee defenses with only losing a few ticks maybe 5-10 seconds from perma on soul drain and hasten. Any thoughts on which build on the builds or which one looks more.....well just more. Thanks for any insight Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! DM_Regen_Perma Updated: Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Smite -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(5), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7) Level 1: Fast Healing -- RgnTss-Regen+(A) Level 2: Reconstruction -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(45) Level 4: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(7) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Dam%(17) Level 8: Siphon Life -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Hct-Dam%(19), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21) Level 10: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(23), DctWnd-Heal(23), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(25) Level 12: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 14: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), Ksm-ToHit+(29) Level 16: Integration -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(31) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(31), Obl-Acc/Rchg(31), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 20: Resilience -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), UnbGrd-ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25) Level 24: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(50) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(27), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 28: Instant Healing -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36), Prv-Heal(39), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(40) Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42) Level 35: Dark Blast -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Rchg(46), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(46) Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(39) Level 41: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(48), RechRdx-I(48) Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(50), Rct-Def(50) Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48) Level 49: Revive -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(21) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(3) Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon Level 35: Experimental Injection Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany Level 1: Quick Form ------------

I've currently been running a high recharge dm/regen build that has soul drain, hasten and dull pain in the perma range. While I like the build I was thinking about tweaking it to something a little different and was looking for some advice.......here's the current build Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! DM_Regen_Perma Updated: Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Smite -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7) Level 1: Fast Healing -- RgnTss-Regen+(A) Level 2: Reconstruction -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal(9), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(9), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(11), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11) Level 4: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(13) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(13), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Rchg(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(17) Level 8: Siphon Life -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(21) Level 10: Dull Pain -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(23), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(25), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Prv-Heal/Rchg(27) Level 12: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 14: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), BlsoftheZ-Travel(29), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(29) Level 16: Integration -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(31) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech(31), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(31), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(33), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(33), PwrTrns-+Heal(33) Level 20: Resilience -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), UnbGrd-ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36) Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 26: Soul Drain -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(37), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39) Level 28: Instant Healing -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal(39), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(39), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(40), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(43), GldArm-ResDam(43), TtnCtn-ResDam(43), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(45) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(42), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Hct-Acc/Rchg(42) Level 35: Dark Blast -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Rchg(46), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(46) Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(48) Level 41: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(48), RechRdx-I(48) Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50), Rct-ResDam%(50) Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50) Level 49: Revive -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(3) Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon Level 35: Experimental Injection Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany Level 1: Quick Form ------------

Thanks @Doomguide2005 and @BrandX for the advice....I'll tweak the build with the suggestions and see how it plays.

Macros and binds will be your best friend when it comes to a MM......there's a few posts where macros and binds are discussed with the Sandolphan's guide being particularly useful. With them getting slaughtered, lay down tar patch and darkest night to debuff the enemies and that will help keep your pets alive and as well as a well timed howling twilight(rez) to stun the mobs prior to them engaging. Demons are a mix of range and melee with them starting with ranged attacks before charging in to the fray.....keeping them in a defensive stance may help a bit but in the end demons are gonna do what demons gonna do

I have a savage/regen toon sitting at 50 that I've been playing around in Mids with, currently he's a high recharge build to get IH, DP and recon up as much as possible but I recently came up with a build that has less recharge but is soft capped to s/l. My question is.....would I need as much recharge with me being at the cap or would the extra defense making it a not needed. Here's the build to look over I'm thinking of going into and thanks for any advice that can be given here. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Wulfgang planned: Level 50 Mutation Brute Primary Power Set: Savage Melee Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Maiming Slash -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(50) Level 1: Fast Healing -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(17) Level 2: Shred -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(9), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(11), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(37) Level 4: Reconstruction -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(40), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(40), UnbGrd-Max HP%(40), NmnCnv-Heal(42), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(42) Level 6: Blood Thirst -- GssSynFr--Build%(A) Level 8: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13) Level 10: Vicious Slash -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42) Level 12: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-Heal(43), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(43), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46), DctWnd-Rchg(46) Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15), Ksm-ToHit+(15) Level 16: Integration -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Prv-Heal(17), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19) Level 18: Rending Flurry -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(34) Level 20: Resilience -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(21), UnbGrd-ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(25) Level 22: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25) Level 26: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(29), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 28: Instant Healing -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(43), Prv-Heal(46), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(48), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Prv-Heal/Rchg(50) Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 32: Savage Leap -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(37) Level 35: Revive -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 38: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(39), Rct-Def(39), Rct-Def/EndRdx(39) Level 41: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(45) Level 47: Tactics -- RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(A), RctRtc-ToHit(48) Level 49: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), RgnTss-Regen+(3), Mrc-Rcvry+(5) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(5), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(7) Level 1: Blood Frenzy Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon ------------

Here's what I've done on my demon/dark.........with endurance issues only coming into play only after I do my initial setup but it's also easily fixed with Ageless. I built for ranged soft cap with s/l defense at 32 and resist cap for s/l. Decent recharge without hasten and while my attacks don't look optimal they do surprisingly well. I usually run +2/x8 with little to no issues and rarely lose pets or me for that matter. She's been very fun and has taken over as my favorite to play and has soloed a few GM's out there with AV's next to be tested. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Demon dark2: Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), SvrRgh-PetResDam(3), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(3), EdcoftheM-PetDef(5), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(5), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(7) Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(7), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(9), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(9), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), CldSns-%Dam(11) Level 2: Lash -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43) Level 4: Darkest Night -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(13), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(13), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(15), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), CldSns-%Dam(34) Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34), BlsoftheZ-Travel(40), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(46) Level 10: Howling Twilight -- Ann-ResDeb%(A), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46) Level 12: Summon Demons -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(19), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(21), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21) Level 14: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(36), Rct-ResDam%(36) Level 18: Hell on Earth -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(23), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(23), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(25), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(31) Level 20: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37) Level 22: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(31), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Build%(34) Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I(A) Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- SlbAll-Build%(A), ImpSwf-Dam%(27), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(27), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 28: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-ResDam(37), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(43), StdPrt-ResKB(48) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(37), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(43) Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Night Fall -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42) Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(40), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 41: Petrifying Gaze -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(42), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(42), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48) Level 44: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(45), CldSns-ToHitDeb(45), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), GlmoftheA-Acc/Rchg(46), GlmoftheA-Dam%(48) Level 47: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 49: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(50), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(50), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(50) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(15) Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Diamagnetic Radial Flawless Interface Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: Invader Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Marshal Level 1: Cold Demonling Level 26: Demon Prince Level 12: Ember Demon Level 1: Fiery Demonling Level 1: Hellfire Demonling Level 12: Hellfire Gargoyle Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment ------------

I've been slowly leveling up my mind/dark dom and have him modelled after the council vampyres. I like to put the mob to sleep the focus on the boss with my ST hold and attacks, when boss drops I hit my lil poo ric nuke and then sleep them again following the same tactic......very fun

@Force Redux....I keep forgetting about the alt build idea. Thanks for reminding me. Went hybrid support for the added pet damage, may switch that though as my playstyle has evolved into a scrappermind over the course of discovery on my demon mm. Thanks again for the ideas

@Force Redux I'm usually in the fray so to speak.....I play my MM's kinda like I play my scrappers. With dark I feel a little more confident in my ability to tankermind...or in my case scrappermind may be a better wording as most of my toons are dark based. Most of my ranged defenses came from a heavy use of the accurate debuff set cloud senses as I've found it works beautifully in my dark MM and in Dark Servant, I even slotted my heal with it to spam even more debuff. Best way to describe what I do is...…..pick the biggest bully in the yard and send the boys to go get him as I deal with his buddies, when they get done with that send them to the next or just let them cause mayhem. I'm switching between attacks, stuns/debuffs and heals. While I love my current build I'm just trying to see if a respec would benefit or leave as is......one piece of advice I was given was build the range/AoE up and not worry about the rest. The main consideration was slotting up my attacks a bit more, currently my main attack is fearsome stare with it proc'd along with lash and nightfall both with an a/d/r from a purp set and a proc. A far as the KIA aspect...…..maybe once in a while and usually if I've walked away from my game while in a fight against arachnos, carnies or malta…….but she's one tough demon girl. Appreciate the insight there @Force Redux Thanks

I'm at a point where I'm considering doing a respec on my demon/dark MM but I'm kinda hesitant because I enjoy her build but I'm thinking I can get more out of her. My dilemma is I'm currently at the defense soft cap for range and the resist cap for s/l with soul mastery if I swap over to ice I can swap the resist for the s/l defense cap while still keeping ranged cap. I can possibly still manage to get resist cap as well but that would mean putting the glad and steadfast proc into my demons and rely on their shield casts to get it.....currently I'm capped without them. Anyone have any advice......to respec or not to respec, that is the question? Thanks everyone for any help that gets thrown my way

@TygerDarkstorm anytime, I've come to grow very fond of the masterminds and demons are my particular favorite as I've leveled demons paired with storm, dark, cold and thermal all to 50 with kin, time and nature sitting around 20. I learned about slotting and such here on the forums with splitting the sets to get some massive recharges and the rest from experimenting on what works for my playstyle and while there are many other far more knowledgable than I here who can make some really nasty uberlike builds. Build for fun, build something that you will enjoy to play and always remember that there's more than 1 way to build any character and what may work for one may not work for another

So when I built my demon/cold MM I set about getting ranged defense to the soft cap as well as s/l, I also wanted some attacks in the build as to make me feel somewhat useful......or more precisely powerful. I made the sacrifice of skipping hasten( I tend do do this alot on my MM's) and went away from my normal pet slotting, while demonlings and the prince are slotted kinda like I normally do the demons are not....again this was for set bonuses. Another sacrifice I made was single slotting of ice and glacial shield, I used them for the LotG proc. On my pets I tend to slot them with various combinations of the MM ATO to get multiple layers of the recharge bonus as well as any procs that I can fit......trying to get the soulbound proc and the impeded swiftness proc in the prince and if possible the overwhelming force proc into the demonlings. While my enhancements all say level 50 with a few level 30's I always slot with the attuned sets so they can level up with me and if I exemp down they stay. Onto some of your questions and in no specific order.........Patron/Epic pools, if you build for theme go that way if not then go for whatever gives you what you want. Chill mastery is an excellent choice and will greatly help you achieve more defense and a nice ST blast Fighting Pool, this is again a choice and while I take it on most of my builds it's not always needed but to hit the numbers I was looking for I had to have it for the bonuses. Skippable powers, snow storm is the easily most skippable in the set and frostwork is skippable as well. The endurance cost of snowstorm I think out weighs it's usefulness adn besides with benumb and heat loss on the fairly regular you'll be fine. Endurance Concerns, 3 slot stamina with the performance shifter proc and 2 level 50 IO's that you boost up(+5 each) along with heatloss will make your endurance more manageable. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Chill Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(7), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), EdcoftheM-PetDef(9), SlbAll-Build%(11) Level 1: Infrigidate -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(3), ImpSwf-Dam%(3), ImpSwf-Acc/Slow(5) Level 2: Ice Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 4: Lash -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mk'Bit-Dam%(46) Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(11), BlsoftheZ-Travel(17) Level 10: Fly -- Empty(A) Level 12: Summon Demons -- BldMnd-Acc(A), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(13), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(13), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(15), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), BldMnd-Dmg(17) Level 14: Glacial Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 16: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(34), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(34) Level 18: Hell on Earth -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(19), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(21), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(23) Level 20: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 22: Arctic Fog -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37), ShlWal-Def(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(40) Level 24: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(25), GssSynFr--ToHit(25), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(27), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(27), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(29) Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(29), SprMarofS-Dmg(31), SvrRgh-PetResDam(31), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(31), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33) Level 28: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(33) Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Sleet -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(37), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(37), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(43), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(46) Level 38: Heat Loss -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(45), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(46), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(50) Level 41: Ice Blast -- Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg(42), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45) Level 47: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(48), GldArm-3defTpProc(48), UnbGrd-Max HP%(48) Level 49: Weave -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(50), Rct-Def/EndRdx(50) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(23), EndMod-I(40) Level 1: Cold Demonling Level 1: Fiery Demonling Level 1: Hellfire Demonling Level 12: Ember Demon Level 12: Hellfire Gargoyle Level 26: Demon Prince ------------

I have a demon/cold MM at 50 and even though I haven't slotted up her incarnates yet she is a powerhouse. I'll post her build for you when I get off work today and go over what I picked and why I went the way I did

@CaptainFantastic I will say even though I'm not a fan of dark melee on stalkers @Riverduskdoes provide an excellent idea with buildup and with the shield buff it should do exactly what you're looking for and make me relook at my stalker. Main thing is to enjoy the character, if you like it and are having fun with it then that's all that matters.

I leveled up a dark/dark stalker and I was pretty underwhelmed with it and I love the dark sets. My main issue was the loss of soul drain......this really hurts dark melee as it's on of it's best powers. Perhaps the buff shield gives may help with the loss of SD but not sure

I like using my spines/dark and my rad/dark on s/l farms, both are really strong and the enemies drop very quickly

Thanks.

Are we talking putting full set into Invincible or just the proc?

Here's my spines/dark build. He's been fun to play solo and on teams. I built him with resist/defense in mind for a high survivability build at the cost of some recharge, I did turn dark regen into a mini nuke. The advice I would give is put your ATO's in quills and death shroud as they'll pop a little more also with death shroud the ATO proc from unrelenting fury will make it easier on endurance when it procs. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Spines Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Lunge -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(5), UnbGrd-Max HP%(7), UnbGrd-ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48) Level 2: Spine Burst -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Obl-%Dam(3), Obl-Dmg(37), Obl-Acc/Rchg(37), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39) Level 4: Murky Cloud -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(50) Level 6: Super Jump -- Empty(A) Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(13), RedFrt-Def(13), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(15) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15) Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(17), TchoftheN-%Dam(17), Arm-Dam%(29), Obl-%Dam(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 18: Quills -- SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(19), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 20: Impale -- Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A) Level 22: Death Shroud -- SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(A), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(23), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(25), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 24: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 26: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 28: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34), RedFrt-Def(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(34) Level 30: Ripper -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg(45), Obl-Acc/Rchg(45), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(46), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Obl-%Dam(46) Level 32: Throw Spines -- Ann-ResDeb%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(40), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(40), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(40), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(42) Level 35: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(36), Rct-Def/Rchg(43), Rct-Def(50) Level 38: Cloak of Fear -- HO:Enzym(A) Level 41: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A) Level 44: Superior Conditioning -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(45) Level 47: Physical Perfection -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(48) Level 49: Soul Transfer -- Empty(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(5), Pnc-Heal/+End(42) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(3) Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon ------------

@SmokenBongs, I'm glad you liked the build as far as your questions here goes..... I chose agility for a few reasons......it added to what I was looking for to get the defense and the recharge up to make some things perma or near enough to perma and the endurance modification didn't hurt either. While I am softcapped to ranged and with fade active I'm way over but when I first started Doc and hit 50 I tried several different builds and had intuition as my alpha but then I went to DA and realized I like the missions there and wanted the extra defense to hit incarnate cap which I believe is 59. BotZ in hover was more about my playstyle than the bonuses. I usually play in hover mode so the added speed and endredux from the pair helps out with maneuverability. Possess.........I love possess, especially at the lower levels when all the goodies aren't there for you it can save your bacon against tougher baddies. I really like how they turn into shadow version of themselves and confusing EB's and AV's is really fun.

As my main is a dark/dark soul troller I thought I'd share my build. It's got a few procs along with ranged defense and s/l resists, I also managed perma fade, hasten, haunts and soul absorption. He's been really fun to play and has been known to survive things he shouldn't....looking at some crazy luck factoring in there as opposed to anything else. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Doc Midknight Final: Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Darkness Control Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Dark Grasp -- Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Rchg(3), Apc-Dam%(3), GldJvl-Dam%(5), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(5), UnbCns-Dam%(7) Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- CldSns-Acc/Rchg(A), CldSns-%Dam(7), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(9), CldSns-ToHitDeb(9), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(27), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 2: Tar Patch -- PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A) Level 4: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A) Level 6: Possess -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(11), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(11), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(19), CrcPrs-Conf%(19) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(13), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(15), BlsoftheZ-Travel(17) Level 10: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 12: Howling Twilight -- Ann-ResDeb%(A) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15) Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(17), ShlWal-Def(23) Level 18: Haunt -- SlbAll-Build%(A), CldSns-ToHitDeb(21), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(21), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(23), GlmoftheA-Dam%(25), CldSns-%Dam(50) Level 20: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 22: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-%Dam(A), GlmoftheA-Dam%(25), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(46) Level 24: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(31), RechRdx-I(33) Level 26: Shadow Field -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(34) Level 28: Soul Absorption -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(29), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(29), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(31), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(42), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 30: Heart of Darkness -- Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dam%(36), ScrDrv-Dam%(36), Obl-%Dam(36), Erd-%Dam(37) Level 32: Umbra Beast -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), CldSns-ToHitDeb(37), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 35: Dark Embrace -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(39), GldArm-ResDam(40) Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-ToHitDeb(40), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(40), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(42), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(50) Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(43), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 44: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45) Level 47: Weave -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(48), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48) Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(46) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon ------------

Here's the build I'm using on my demon/dark MM, I currently run her at +2/x8 with no issues and can run at +3/x8 again at no issues. I had a specific idea in mind during the build of debuffing as much as possible along with ranged defense being capped and s/l resists at the cap. My demons using survive most battles and rarely do I have to resummon them except when we aggro a few additional mobs we weren't expecting. As far as the endurance issues, while it's still there I found with agility for endurance as well as the defense and recharge paired with ageless they're pretty much a thing of the past. I hope it helps....it's one of my favorites to plat Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Demon dark2: Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- SlbAll-Build%(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(3), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), EdcoftheM-PetDef(7) Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(7), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(9), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(9), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), CldSns-%Dam(11) Level 2: Lash -- Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Dam%(50) Level 4: Darkest Night -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(13), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(13), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(15), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), CldSns-%Dam(34) Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(46), BlsoftheZ-Travel(48) Level 10: Howling Twilight -- Ann-ResDeb%(A) Level 12: Summon Demons -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(19), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(19), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(21) Level 14: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A) Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(36), Rct-ResDam%(36), Rct-Def(36) Level 18: Hell on Earth -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(23), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(23), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(25), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(31) Level 20: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(37), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(37) Level 22: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(31), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Build%(34) Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I(A) Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SvrRgh-PetResDam(27), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(29), ImpSwf-Dam%(31) Level 28: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(43), StdPrt-ResKB(43) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(37), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(40) Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Tar Patch -- ImpSwf-Acc/Slow(A), ImpSwf-Rng/Slow(43) Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(40), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 41: Petrifying Gaze -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(42), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(42), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42) Level 44: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(45), CldSns-ToHitDeb(45), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), GlmoftheA-Acc/Fear/Rchg(46), GlmoftheA-Dam%(46) Level 47: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-ResDam(50) Level 49: Night Fall -- Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(15) Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Diamagnetic Radial Flawless Interface Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: Invader Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Marshal Level 1: Cold Demonling Level 26: Demon Prince Level 12: Ember Demon Level 1: Fiery Demonling Level 1: Hellfire Demonling Level 12: Hellfire Gargoyle Level 50: Support Core Embodiment Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany ------------

Here's my dm/regen build I've been using for a whicle, it allows me to cycle through IH-MoG and Shadow Meld. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! DM_Regen_Perma Updated: Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Smite -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7) Level 1: Fast Healing -- RgnTss-Regen+(A) Level 2: Reconstruction -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal(9), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(9), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(11), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11) Level 4: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(13) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(13), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Rchg(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(17) Level 8: Siphon Life -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(21) Level 10: Dull Pain -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(23), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(25), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Prv-Heal/Rchg(27) Level 12: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 14: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), BlsoftheZ-Travel(29), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(29) Level 16: Integration -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(31) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech(31), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(31), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(33), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(33), PwrTrns-+Heal(33) Level 20: Resilience -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), UnbGrd-ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36) Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 26: Soul Drain -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(37), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39) Level 28: Instant Healing -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal(39), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(39), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(40), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(43), GldArm-ResDam(43), TtnCtn-ResDam(43), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(45) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(42), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Hct-Acc/Rchg(42) Level 35: Dark Blast -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Rchg(46), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(46) Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(48) Level 41: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(48), RechRdx-I(48) Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50), Rct-ResDam%(50) Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50) Level 49: Revive -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(3) Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon Level 35: Experimental Injection Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany Level 1: Quick Form ------------

Most of the damage will come from your phantom army and your phantasm with your main attack being blind......low levels will be rough with just a single attack, this appears to be an endgame type build. It's very defensive and has high recharge for perma about everything. As for the use of Red Fortune sets, it appears to be from a bonus standpoint to get his build where he wants it to be. With the expense........costly but not over costly with most of the IO's going for 1-2 mil each and the specialty and procs going for 3+ each.

The main ones that come to mind are superior invisibility and group invisibility, as shadowfall and a stealth IO works the same and gives you better defenses. Flash, I never really found a use for it due to the long recharge and the fact that everything is usually dead without much worry.........and black hole, yeah.......I don't think I've ever found a use for black hole. With that being said I do usually add superior inv into my builds just to hold a LotG proc.