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All i will add here is that you don’t mention your goals. The above advice is solid, I will add that if your goal is near effortless av killing, traps is where it’s at.

There is a demons thermal thread titled demons thermal in this forum that will answer your question. Page 2

All I know is that of the mm primaries I threw at the pylon on Justin these guys had the worst performance and took the longest to drop the avs in the Maria Jenkins arc. I had to use lore pets far more often. Sure they get big hits now and then but their hits are so infrequent that their actual dps is low and like demons they struggle to all get on smaller targets however demons at least have ranged attacks

never plan on doing dark astoria or incarnate trials? cause unless you at 59% you ain't capped yet, cupcake. the damage on electric fences is pretty tiny even with damage procs. would like to see this resist capped build.

what are you tankerminding? before live went down, the most powerful tankermind I ever saw was a bots/time setup that tanked the av's in the incarnate trials. for general tankerminding it tends to be bots/traps, but honestly ANYTHING with provoke and cc immunity is a tankermind imo. find a way to wrestle your end use issues that nearly all mm secondaries have, grab clarion and provoke in any mm powerset combination and have at it.

Really? From what I've head it's Ninjas that are dead last. Why would you say it's Beasts? I mean, from this post about their innate resistances and traits, they all share the same speed boost. But the first two tiers of Beast minions have higher defense and resistance, and with Pack Mentality stacks, higher damage. what is your metric here? if overall then yeah, due to survivability issues ninja's tend to fall off. but by way of damage ninja's are the highest single target, followed by thugs then demons (depending on target). bots rock aoe if and ONLY IF you are using an aoe immob power so stuff doesn't run. beasts will spam no damage roars frequently to keep extremely short d uration buffs up. this means that nearly 30% of their attack cycle has no damage, and mm pets are not affected by recharge boosts. when they hit, they hit HARD, but the infrequent hits makes their dps rather poor.

for time it's always mace due to powerboosted farsight, and the aoe immob. in pve i am a strong believer that every mm should have an aoe immob to bring a little control to the chaos. as you are playing demon you will need powerboosted farsight since only the prince has any base defense to work with.

If you aren't hurting for end i would focus your incarnates on increasing your damage. 45% musculature, double hit assault, either -res or -maxhp interface. grab clarion so you no longer have to worry about cc

STAHP! i dont want to roll anymore thugs mm's i already have 4.

time stop is not skippable as it has the other half of your -regen the dmg buff is all but useless if not teaming regularly.

mm's have a harder time than most in dark astoria until you can get the +incarnate level tiers of powers, and even then still have a rough time of it. there is just a metric butt-ton of tohit and damage in that content. it can be discouraging until you get your incarnate abilities up.

bodyguard mode only works so long as your pets are alive. demons have no innate defense, only a large amount of resists except the prince who has a bit of both. if your goal is to maximize bodyguard for survival, then a defense based secondary for demons is not the way to go.

They make things easier FOR YOU. But for someone like me with manual dexterity issues, managing WASD is already a full-time job for my left hand. Asking me to try and hunt down a bunch of esoteric keyboard commands during the time crunch of combat (when everything I need to do is better handled by my dominant hand on the mouse interfacing with command buttons I can actually see on-screen) is a bit like asking me to walk the long way round to get to work when I have a car and a short, direct route. A lot of wasted time and effort for an ultimately inferior result when I already have a working system in place? No thank you. EDITED: for some reason my reply ended up in the middle there. i'm like you. i cant fathom how people can easily reach up and hit the function keys without looking at the keyboard. oh so long ago when i was training myself in the late 90's to move away from using the arrow keys to turn and clicking everything i still could not do much with my left hand other than wasd, and maybe q, e, shift, alt and ctrl. I recommend you look into a 7 button mouse. I use logitech mice and have for a very long time. three buttons on my thumb, two small buttons to the lower left of mouse button one and the mouse wheel clicks left and right for two more. there's an easy 7 hotkeys. if you are able to manage shift, ctrl and alt you can use those as modifiers with the 7 hotkeys, giving you 28 total.

this is why i no longer group with my defense based mm's. it's too frustrating the rate you have to replace pets. it's overall less of a problem when your pets are capped to lethal/smash/fire/cold/toxic resists, so i only group on my demon/thermal mm. still have to replace pets often, but nowhere near as often.

Never played cold but it looks busy and mm have end issues in general.

if you are using tequila the test server is already installed. it's the 2nd option in the launcher. you can find details on the commands to create sets and boost your character on the beta forum here.

Snowstorm and Sleet not enough? Seemed ok (albeit briefly) on Justin, I'm at 24 now on Everlasting. If you recommend an immobilize Dixa, which would you lean torward? I edited my post.

not building to take on av's but with no aoe immob clearly not building to take on groups, either? just gonna play on 4/0? i try to build my bots to not rely on the shield from protectors. get rid of the hammi-o's and slot the ato's. You have no end reduction in your pets and are playing a secondary that does not provide end t your pets and did not state if you are taking ageless or not. Your pets will run dry quickly and you are missing out on 30% recharge get rid of the defense io's in bots. you don't need them as cold, ff, traps or time if using the unique io's. proper efficient slotting for your pets is 4 of each mm ato set in assault bot and protector bots. which you do which with is up to you. the last two of each set in the tier 1 bots. from here fill out the other 4 unique io's, and kb to kd, damage procs, build up in the tier 1's something like this has you softcapped in pve without bot shield, 3 points shy of incarnate cap with bot shield, an aoe immob and your pets doing a LOT more damage while having end recovery and with ageless - perma hasten. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1500;701;1402;HEX;| |78DA65944D6F126110C79F85A59437A1A5484BA1144AA1144A41BD9BD837A32569A| |C563D3508DB7613601168A247BF416D343DE807F062B55E34C6189B585F62BC7BD5| |8BF1E0CB411363D2E064E72F6076C3E6F7ECCC33F3FC676697FCB559E7EEC28D934| |2F2CC940B8DC66ABED0682AF58A5A2D59F28575B568167459E90E743CABCB9B958A| |56CD9CD3AE684DB5D80877B94E6DAEAD6566B4726975562343A1A96A55E15AD2B47| |226AF94D4A25A551CFAD37C595DDF68DAF5F5724D514A6E7DB9A8144A4ABDB1A1D6| |827335B598E94A9D2F1415E8BB3E488A92743FB5085C2D8BB8200B919385E922786| |0D629BF04674C3A7BBED0F6842CCAC976AC244CB427248BE91E66857C12FB4C9247| |E2B80166AF8F19A2B698B1C73C27E9397B4F33EDF3CC67A48F25B6842522F4381BC| |559258EB322570EB973384BA3F36DC86D83CD8E3D4EC43CA7C40ED4EEB8CC353BCF| |338FAC8097989E4F54BB97F8937B10260D2EE47741FB00B40F2C30ABA4C18DFCEEF| |B7CE6D15DF00133F69039B507FD8F980ECADF87BAFB0ED97695F279B96E8B7784CF| |188C821166E018CF2AE197F4394C86D9BE352E840FF97CE86394CEF0A38FFE14DB0| |2E034F8827A34841A86DE72EEE06BF01573E40DF88B63463EF2739DF40E73AC3C1C| |60DFE83FA6FE67049AFA4853089A42985304738B608EFBA4298C5AC2886BD05951E| |88CBEE3198D1D8038636C9F67187BCFF6D867D6D9A4D871C48EEF71DFE298531C73| |8A634E09CC3181393DA61413A871628B6DC99BE06D709B39798BF98462525CA39C4| |28D69D498468DE943A1EB98FACDF4525F32F8D63277B98EE93B4C27F9B2E847F60F| |C707E5F6B7493FBAC4A4C19235587206CB7183E584C1B268B0E43B96D692DCFE271| |092EEB579DADF7DEBAB9DBC52B7F77BC7629256D0B933FC164F457862DF0C513FBA| |A34679DEFDDB3CE7FE1DE6592F81F7B476BAD6F7A29DF5872EFB5F2DB8F220| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

even if you stand still always, during momentum TW is the fastest animating set in the game.

if you are going dark or time medicine is a waste of power choices. both sets have a very strong heal. the extra pet in dark is extremely helpful vengeance can't be used on a dead pet. victory rush is only worthwhile on Eb's and AV's and is replaced by incarnates entirely. it also has an unenhanceable stupidly long recharge time. the -tohit in dark (and the pbaoe in time) are affected by mob level difference. google city of heroes purple patch for more details. you only need three binds two of which you start with - follow defensive, attack defensive, goto defensive. right click and edit the two attack and follow macros you start out with from aggressive to defensive. if you are really on the fence as to which secondary, make both on justin boost to 50 and try them both. i am finding justin to be a godsend because quite often builds on paper don't work out in practice.

bots without an aoe root even with provoke would drive me to drink more than i already do.

Street justice/bio Owns tough single targets. Drops aoe packs fast. Two absorbs and a heal with fast recharges with a proper build.

Thugs thermal would not work as well as you think because only the bruiser has any resistances base. You are only adding about 24% resists from your secondary and that won’t stop a one shot. Demons thermal actually cap out smashing lethal fire toxic and cold resistances. If by gassed out you mean the pets are out of endurance this is true for all mm primaries and why you should slot one end reduction in the pets before io sets and incarnates.

Tactics does not provide accuracy it provides tohit. Defense slotting in the tier 2 bot or thug depends on secondary. Time, traps and ff done need to slot defense into the pet 2 acc three damage is generally accepted slotting for powers. Any accuracy at or above 50% is fine and easily reached

According to the old RedTomax data, a nice zesty -22.5%. That isn't a Magnitude. Magnitude is usually rated from 1-3 (for most enemies), and is a stat I'm not seeing on these lists. Here's a wiki article that explains what Magnitude is. https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Protection I'm asking because I'm trying to find the reason I'm not feeling like there's any difference in hitting the enemy when I use the debuff and when I don't. I thought they may be resisting the effect somehow. I guess the other option is the debuff just isn't big enough to make a difference. i understand your question. you want to know exactly how much of that -defense is actually being applied. google 'city of heroes purple patch'. it will explain the who and the why. as an MM in general you will rarely feel the differnce a single -defense -resist power makes because few mm pets are hitting for more than low double-digits and you for sure won't feel it in your 20's when mobs dont really hvae the resists they will later on.