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Yea but that’s why I was saying that Way doesn’t make much sense

Well, no matter how you look at it, masterminds definitely have the fewest primaries by a wide margin. Yes, pet customization is long overdue. There was a suggestion in someone else’s thread, allowing masterminds to custom choose their primary attacks as well… separate from which pets they were using. I don’t think the actual way they suggested doing it would work, but that would be a way to increase the variety of masterminds without having to build a new pet set. You could have the special effect (minus regen for bots, plus crit for ninjas, etc.) be baked in depending on pet set while allowing for more personal attack variety.

I don't think averaging them out like that makes much sense.

It's not that I disagree, but realistically we ARE going to get more non-MM sets (many of which can easily be given to three or four ATs at once) before we get another MM primary. The amount of work relative to ROI (in the creative sense) just isn't worth it. But I would also love to see a couple more MM primaries.

Just so we are clear, Electric Armor was buffed, not nerfed.

It does get a little Toxic now, and regeneration from Power Sink as well.

I'll reiterate here, I don't think ANY "rescue" mob should be capable of taking damage prior to the rescue.

I think that's what secondary and epic sets are already for...

Alternate animations for the elemental weapons is a great idea.

This really ought to be changed. It’s incredibly annoying to be on a character that has repel protection and then the one form of repel that we actually encounter on a regular basis isn’t protected against? Come on! Ridiculous.

The victimization mentality and persecution complex is truly absurd and not in the slightest justified.

Sort of reminds me of FFXIV's The Hunt, which I really happen to like actually. Yes to more "weekly specials" and the like.

I think it's because the animation time varies depending on if you have Momentum or not.

The repel caused by explosions seems to ignore resistances for some reason.

Nonsense. A ridiculous exaggeration.

It’s not though. That’s an incredible exaggeration.

I guess so, but it's irrelevant. There is no rule that says an AT must be the best at something to be useful and good overall. Being second best at two things is still really good. Brutes are better than Tankers at one thing, and better than Scrappers at two things. That is sufficient as long as they can fill their primary team roles, which are to tank and do damage, which they do. They DON'T have to be better than BOTH Tankers and Scrappers at some hypothetical fourth thing in order to justify their existence.

Uh, no. Dark Electric Fire Ice Psionic Regeneration Stone Super Reflexes (and when Brutes eventually have it, Ninjitsu) are all sets that do not have Taunt auras on Scrappers but do on Brutes. And even though their punchvoke is not as good as Tankers, Brutes all have it and Scrappers do not. Yes, they have to hit stuff, or use Taunt, or get close, but it's more than Scrappers have. So that's all Scrappers.

It does not. The Brute gets Taunt in two different toggles, the Scrapper in zero. And I believe a dev statement a while back said something about no new Scrapper armor getting a taunt aura, but I'm sure I couldn't find it.

Stalkers do not get taunt. Scrappers sometimes get weak taunt auras, basically never actually take their single target taunt, and do not get any punchvoke. They have lower HP and lower resistance caps. They are not tanks. I don't think any of them should have taunt auras, and you'll notice the newest Scrapper armor sets do not. We weren't "ignoring" Controllers and Masterminds when we compared Corrs and Defs, and we aren't "ignoring" Scrappers and Stalkers now.

I don't agree with that, which we've been over. Defenders and Corruptors have exactly the same relationship as Tankers and Brutes and always have. (Aside from the last couple years on HC, where Tankers were buffed too much.)

This is where you’re losing me. Corruptors are also literally not the best at anything, Blasters do better damage, Defenders have better buffs. Why is that ok for Corrs but not for Brutes?

If I didn't say this earlier that is my mistake, but I may have, I think the Scrapper ATO is clearly broken and OP. But that's where the problem lies. A scrapper WITHOUT that ATO is not outperforming Brutes by anything like 30%. Is that possibly the common ground upon which we can meet?

Similarly, not at all what I was saying. Just a convenient strawman. People do invite folks for buffs and healing, of course, but nobody really cares if the person they invite is a "dEdIcAtEd HEALZOR" or a DPS with some buffs. The game is not divided into discrete roles. There is tons of overlap, always has been and that's just fine. Why it's fine for support but apparently not fine for melee is unclear, still.

The claim was regarding whether the niche is worthwhile, not what the niche is. We all agree what the niche is. Simply spelling it out for me, because you still think for some reason I don't know it, does nothing to support the CLAIM that the niche is worthless. Literally, nothing in this post addresses what I was saying.