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Well there goes the plant proc patch plan! Still, I'll certainly make room for the Panacea proc if nothing else. Thanks for the clarification.

With a basic IO build, WP is looking at reasonable S/L resists (and OK Psi resists), middling E/N/F/C defenses, and a strong regen core. It's low or lacking in native coverage of the other resists/defenses not mentioned. Sets of course make up a lot of difference, but I was basing my explanation on a basic build. I prolly should have stated that...

WP relies on a lot of layered protections (some resists, solid regen, little bit of defense) with none of them being over the top. Given that, I'd look at something that can plug a lot of holes while also bringing reasonable damage. With that in mind, my gut instinct is to go with a Corruptor. On the primary side, you've got plenty of options. For duoing I would lean toward Fire/ (all the damage), Dark/ (tacks on -acc) or Water/ (good soft controls). For secondaries I'd gravitate to /Rad or /Time. Both sets have toggles that lower foe damage and acc, which would help let WP's layers do their thing, and they bring a good variety of other effects as well.

Theorycrafting a new toon, she's L1 so everything can be changed! She's sitting at capped S/L/E. with Neg/Rng a small insp away. Agility Radial and Power Boost make all the numbers bigger but the insp is still necessary for some caps; seems worthwhile for eventual incarnate content tho? Agility makes Hasten 2.5 seconds from perma. Consistently stacks 2x Lightning Storm and is a few seconds off consistent 2x Freezing Rain and Tornado. Given the no-purples constraint, what can I do to squeeze extra stats out of this? Villain Plan by Hero Villain Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Katie and Kitty: Level 50 Natural Mastermind Primary Power Set: Beast Mastery Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Summon Wolves -- MarofSpr-Acc/Dmg(A), MarofSpr-Acc/EndRdx(3), SvrRgh-PetResDam(3), EdcoftheM-PetDef(7), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(7), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg(9) Level 1: Gale -- Empty(A) Level 2: Call Swarm -- Acc-I(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(5) Level 4: Call Hawk -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(31), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 6: Train Beasts -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Call Ravens -- ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ShlBrk-%Dam(31), AchHee-ResDeb%(33), TchofLadG-%Dam(34) Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(11), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def(46) Level 12: Summon Lions -- MarofSpr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), MarofSpr-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(13), CmmoftheM-Rchg/PetAoEDef(13), CmmoftheM-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), CmmoftheM-Acc/Dmg(15), CmmoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(17) Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(25), Ksm-ToHit+(46) Level 16: Freezing Rain -- ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(33), ShlBrk-%Dam(43) Level 18: Fortify Pack -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/Rchg(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Rct-ResDam%(34), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48) Level 20: Hurricane -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(21), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(43), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(50), DarWtcDsp-Slow%(50) Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 24: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(25) Level 26: Summon Dire Wolf -- CmmoftheM-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), CmmoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(27), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(29), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(31) Level 28: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def(50) Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46) Level 32: Tame Beasts -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Tornado -- MarofSpr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), MarofSpr-Dmg(36), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37) Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Thn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Thn-Acc/Dmg(39), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40) Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), LucoftheG-Def(42) Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LucoftheG-Def(45) Level 47: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Super Jump -- Empty(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) 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@Nimruht, yeah the resists (particularly Cold, and to a lesser extent Neg and Psi) are a challenging proposition, especially without purples. I can definitely see myself poaching stuff from @Hyperstrike's setup when I can afford to make the leap! In the meantime, I'm considering pushing off Hasten and stealing proc slots out of Beta Decay & Ground Zero to make room for Cross Punch to up my AoE game. Dunno if that'll pan out but that's what theorycrafting is for!

Here's the build I've been working towards. I tend not to build with purples in mind. (Once I pick a "really really for sure main" that'll change, but for now I've got a handful of entertaining candidates that I'm doing mid-budget builds for til I know what I'm going to focus on!) Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Armoogeddon (Tank): Level 50 Technology Tanker Primary Power Set: Radiation Armor Secondary Power Set: Super Strength Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Flight Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%(34) Level 1: Jab -- Acc-I(A) Level 2: Proton Armor -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(3), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Ags-ResDam(15), Ags-Psi/Status(34) Level 4: Haymaker -- GntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), GntFis-Dmg/Rchg(5), GntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), GntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), GntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), GntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(31) Level 6: Fallout Shelter -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(33), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 8: Radiation Therapy -- TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(A), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(9), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(9), ThfofEss-+End%(17), ThfofEss-Heal/Rchg(31) Level 10: Gamma Boost -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(13), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(17) Level 12: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(29), DarWtcDsp-Slow%(40), AnlWkn-%ToHit(46), SphIns-%ToHit(50) Level 14: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A), PrfZng-Taunt(37), PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg(37), PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(37) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(48), Prv-Heal(48), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(48) Level 20: Knockout Blow -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(21), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(21), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), FcsSmt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), FcsSmt-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25) Level 24: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), ImpArm-ResDam(27), ImpArm-ResPsi(34) Level 26: Ground Zero -- RechRdx-I(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(50), AchHee-ResDeb%(50) Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36) Level 32: Meltdown -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), ImpArm-ResDam(43), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(43) Level 35: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A) Level 38: Foot Stomp -- MghoftheT-Acc/Dmg(A), MghoftheT-Dmg/Rchg(39), MghoftheT-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), MghoftheT-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), MghoftheT-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), MghoftheT-Rchg/Res%(40) Level 41: Mu Lightning -- EntChs-Acc/Dmg(A), EntChs-Dmg/EndRdx(42), EntChs-Dmg/Rchg(42), EntChs-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 44: Ball Lightning -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(45), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(45), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), PstBls-Dam%(46) Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 49: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43), RgnTss-Regen+(46) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13) ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1465;710;1420;HEX;| |78DA65944B6F125114C7EF0C432B94D227A54F0AB4C8A36564DABAD5A8551796A42| |DD5E88A9072A5449C214013BB51AB31D1DA97DDF82DDCA8D144377E00577E095F55| |1335EA0A0FF33F699B3009FC66FEF7CC39FF7B0E97F4AD59CFB38BEBA785E23957C| |A55ABD9A59C794356DC4B7279C5B44A56614DD0D57DA672D3B20A329FB7CC60AC11| |126F253980E0ECACBC2ECDAAD41773F962AE56B4CC6C23BE32C4CB69599252CFAC9| |6E93E53AB48B3505B11EDF39655D22F140B2BB5A25970DB4F99B294798F7D3B2773| |65D2DB10556A84F9CE978BCBFAD9CA6A4D66D3ABD974AE5A9395B57EF211A1CF469| |4BE9486D9BA267E39843034A1FE065BFE80DEBF60E81F38E9167CD5851814B6B649| |7914CEA3A414E431C09669D03B03864E823AE571208FD3715BB335ED0EF32EE85E6| |7DE0303F7C12DAAE7443DD5E9A79B114D04A7E06F2C4ECF514D6C534CAB6DAAAEB5| |FAB076AC8FD90B76763BEC77035EF06D5C0817E7755D864FCF02D8990177286F9B4| |0DEB677AA103D9A187EAFDA6BD13760F203687850E704EDB51D7B75B457B1366E32| |2D661954E947D2C1FDED78006D976A76C197B36B1F39BB3F33BF708DAFCC8FCC4FA| |041B57BB8CF3DF384B0267A17988B605F86794DD8BD0B5C05C3E4C587BA8A6F02B3| |EE673A68CDCF33F78FA3E7FD117030CA8C81219EC913DAC700BCA8039CC76841EF0| |DEEE514F91D427F95218E1966F651CD119ECF880FF318FBC973BF04EE518D51D4D0| |46B96E907D05D957827D25D8B79FF286B9E7E1186ACD908F08F73CF210B98F3F626| |E301F83D14DE6169825C478DEB12DF436BECDDC61EE82398A9D60BF13CF517BF205| |F325F315987C0DBAC8AFCE7E75EE83465A0A7E458AB561EDC859ADD325E2DAC189A| |F279A56534D8AD1A44C3729334DCA5C9332AF715952145B71751E9CFFFABEFBE0FF| |432849ECF1FBA1A62A21F4357105FB4A9EC299FF76F43D9EDB8F434D519EE2FC78F| |6C0FF7E89DFCF| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

You get the bonus for 5 sets with the exact same bonus amount, but this does not prevent you from also gaining the bonus from other sets that offer a different amount (e.g. you can gain 5 sets' worth of 10% +regen, as well as 5 sets' worth of, say, 12% regen). Similarly with defenses and resists. 5x the exact same number is the limit, but you can have more than 5 sets which give you bonii if the numbers are different. Edit for linky: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Enhancement_Set_Bonuses#The_Law_of_Fives

Nope, no pressure at all 🙂

That's a spicy build @Hyperstrike! The multi-slotting for resist bonii is a cool angle, and I had not considered slotting up Ground Zero as a mini-nuke. I need this workday to end so I can get home and compare to what I was planning.

I've got a build on my planner at home (my Rad/SS is 26 right now). I'd be happy to post it sometime this evening, both to give advice and to receive some!

Watching for that as well, as I'm leveling a Water/Regen and always looking for better ideas!

Would the other heal set procs also work in LS? Could be neat to to just throw all the heal/end procs in there.

As someone who's working on getting my own /Nature dork into perma territory, I'll be playing around with your slotting ideas on my build.

Ill/Dark would also add Fluffy into the mix.

Thanks for the detailed explanation @Coyote (and to @5099y_74c05 for the summons!). That theoretical +50% recharge sounds amazing. Given the number of other powers I'll be keeping an eye on I won't expect to see it often, but even half that value would be outstanding. (As an aside I figured a way to squeak an extra 2.5% into the build by dropping Seismic Smash and the purple set! Turned Maneuvers into Stealth (retains LotG), and replaced SS with Grant Invis (adding another LotG) which let me add 3 more Dark Watcher slots to Earthquake to claim the final 5% bonus. Of course that messes with the FF proc math because now Quake has a faster recharge, but...) This char is only at L31 right now so I have a lot of time and respecs to keep experimenting. The activity level of this combo feels really high, so I'm working on getting rotations (especially pre-fight controls) figured out. It's a huge change of pace from my armour sets!

First serious foray into controller in far too long... I'm shooting for perma-everything-I-can-get, while not sacrificing too much for defenses. Close to the former, feeling woefullly far away from the latter. It's a little over 6 seconds away from perma Overgrowth, and ~0.6 seconds from perma VG (both including animation times). With 2 FF+rech procs which I believe should be firing regularly. those numbers go down, but I don't know how to calculate how much. Def/Res might be good enough but I'm coming from a preference for non-squishy types, so to my eyes they look awful. I don't know how to improve them without stealing recharge set bonii. I'm unlikely to solo much with her, if that helps with suggestions. Also, only one purple set is slotted because I don't know what my budget will be, but I suspect not crazy high. Cobbled together from forum scrounging and a lot of messing around: Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Volcanic Growth: Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Earth Control Secondary Power Set: Nature Affinity Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Fossilize -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(5), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42) Level 1: Corrosive Enzymes -- Acc-I(A) Level 2: Stone Cages -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(3), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(7), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), PstBls-Dam%(43) Level 4: Regrowth -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(17), Prv-Heal(25), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(40), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 6: Quicksand -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A), PcnoftheT--Rchg%(7) Level 8: Wild Growth -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSki-ResDam/Rchg(9), ImpSki-EndRdx/Rchg(9), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ImpSki-Status(37) Level 10: Spore Cloud -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(11), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(37), DarWtcDsp-Slow%(39) Level 12: Stalagmites -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(13), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(13), Stp-Stun/Rng(17), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(31) Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), UnbLea-Stlth(40) Level 16: Lifegiving Spores -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(31), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(34), DctWnd-Heal(34) Level 18: Earthquake -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(19), DarWtcDsp-Slow%(19) Level 20: Wild Bastion -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(21), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(21), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), DctWnd-Rchg(40) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23) Level 24: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(46) Level 26: Volcanic Gasses -- Lck-Acc/Rchg(A), Lck-Rchg/Hold(27), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(27), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), Lck-%Hold(29) Level 28: Rebirth -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 32: Animate Stone -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33) Level 35: Entangling Aura -- WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), WiloftheC-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(36), WiloftheC-EndRdx/Rchg(36), WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(36), WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Lck-%Hold(43) Level 38: Overgrowth -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-Rchg(39) Level 41: Fissure -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(42), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50) Level 44: Rock Armor -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(45), Rct-Def/Rchg(45), Rct-ResDam%(45), LucoftheG-Rchg+(50) Level 47: Seismic Smash -- Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Rchg(48), Hct-Dmg(48), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(48), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(50) Level 49: Earth's Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power 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Some solid comprehensive info in this thread:

Half-assed starting point, with Soul PPP for Shadow Meld. With SM active (looks like roughly half the time, with FF +rech proc firing) your defenses are overcapped to everything except ranged, including incarnate level content. Without SM you are a small purple insp away from the standard def cap (excepting ranged and psi). Also naturally just shy of the S/L resist cap. I'm sure someone smarter than me could leverage significantly better. No purples or winters, and only regular strength scrapper ATOs. (forum is giving me an error when I try to post the whole build, hopefully the code block is sufficient!) | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1523;699;1398;HEX;| |78DA85945B4F135110C7CF76B7945E28602D50A0D052B1D042A1EA932F3E88F8202| |4680D28B7A6A94B69DCB44D5B05BCF3E017F0C56FE1F7F0FA018CD7A801A280D788| |0F669DDDF9539AEC839B6C7EE7CCCC99F99FB373767275CCF3E8ECFA2921794F6B9| |94A259DCA9633A5925A765D54B3CB85A256CCAD09E371D01BDC77A627554D5513A9| |6A6669293D9ECF2D57F3855C67CD3BA62EA9858A9A98C96B5AA9B8A29645D354B1A| |825F6233DE66C42CD9468E2669766F83C08AB16D44A2570A694CF1A35B4AB943355| |BCA6A5273395AA5A5EEB202D43F4BE0C0B3CBA2CA6087D8A1839CF4C5E0053CC696| |30392196B13ED34082AA2F1982C4452119E419A4715F12A8C10A1DB25BF64FA6CD7| |057385E95A65866F308FDC64CE507E99F3CBF24FCEABFC027F331BF798AFA98E9D6| |3EDF6FB36D3D6803A0DFFA9F386D63A78AD7E996A3AB127E739CE1DFBC14CEEEBA7| |1837EF49B8757A844C9626286D82522F947AA1B4034A6729B65992CC0ACD9B6C6BD| |902BF303F90A2569C5AEB2DB61DBA0DDE61F6DC6546EE31A3EBCC39CAEFC30E7C0F| |F9240E3F0043BC638562FCD0EBDFE1756DBBE037E8FDCEBC44B1EDC8D70EBD11E81| |DFECCFC487A03D01B98554C5BE71C38CFEC5960461699D134739EF277414B17B474| |434B37B4F4404B1BC50639560AE26B8CFC1566E77D220DBDD0D08BCE0DA17343E8D| |C103A377C051D90652E50DE3E7CD1BE38DB36A8643FDB947E07D73FDA083A4117CE| |DECDDCF3083180BD0C40DFE0499A2AB285C651C6A137FE986B0E3D019F82CF98C3C| |FC1174C27E94DE01C12B573602E926F147B19FD8373546AB7DA6872EAD85EA57677| |F598C53B6AB1242D96E316CB098B65C26299526AFF03219916670BDD72B6E8DB2EF| |24AF5DEDD038B4D0AE33E4EF34E63DB3CDFB1ACFA7A609124DC010FEEC0465B4D93| |BE5937DEAA1BBF0DF3DFD918BFAB1BBFAF1B8FFB281D4EF01F17070AF0| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Specifically looking at the "keep mob attention" aspect, I wonder (certainly don't know!) if there's room to tweak the aggro/threat code to make it harder to peel mobs off the tanker? Something like "If a mob is under a taunt/gauntlet effect, any attacks against that mob that do not have a built-in taunt/gauntlet/brutevoke component add to the tanker's threat rather than the attacker's threat". Make it effectively impossible for another non-taunting AT to steal aggro.

Great thoughts, thanks for all the replies. The MoG comments do make sense, I'll likely push it to 47/49 to mule a LotG. @Rathulfr, I'll prolly use parts of your build as a template to see where I can squeeze in those higher defenses, and push my regen numbers a bit more too. 30 levels down, 20 to go!

Something like this? (No purples or winters cause I'm a po'boy!) Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Splash Damage: Level 50 Natural Sentinel Primary Power Set: Water Blast Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Ninja Tool Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Aqua Bolt (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (39) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: Fast Healing (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance Level 2: Water Burst (A) Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage (3) Opportunity Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (3) Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (5) Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (31) Opportunity Strikes - RechargeTime/Chance for Opportunity Level 4: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod (17) Endurance Modification IO Level 6: Hydro Blast (A) Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage (7) Sentinel's Ward - Damage/RechargeTime (7) Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (9) Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (9) Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (31) Sentinel's Ward - RechargeTime/Chance for +Absorb Level 8: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (23) Karma - Knockback Protection (37) Freebird - +Stealth Level 10: Instant Regeneration (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (11) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (11) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (36) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 12: Reconstruction (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (15) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (36) Recharge Reduction IO Level 14: Whirlpool (A) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime (15) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (36) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 16: Tidal Forces (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 18: Water Jet (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (19) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (19) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (21) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (31) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 20: Integration (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 22: Dismiss Pain (A) Miracle - +Recovery (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal (50) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance Level 24: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (34) Recharge Reduction IO Level 26: Steam Spray (A) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage (27) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime (27) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (29) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (29) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 28: Resilience (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (50) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (50) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 30: Fly (A) Flight Speed IO Level 32: Geyser (A) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage (33) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime (33) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (33) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 35: Second Wind (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge Level 38: Moment of Glory (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (40) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime Level 41: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 44: Kick (A) Empty Level 47: Tough (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (48) Aegis - Resistance (48) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (48) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 49: Tashibishi (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift Edit: Dunno why Stamina and Health aren't showing in the export. 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What's the conventional wisdom on which is better to chase? My gut says +res simply because /Regen has one +res power (which gets to ~16%) but no native +def. I'm also finding +res set bonii are far easier to come by, which is also pushing me in that direction, Does that jive with others' experience? (Water primary if that's relevant.)

Just a recommendation. For comparison sake, here is a build i worked up for my Elec/Titan. S/L/E/P are all capped. F/C are with .3% of the cap (good enough for me). Negative and Toxic are low, but those two I can live with and Might of the Tanker will bring them up a bit with 2-3 stacks running, plus the scaling Reactive Defense IO. Lots of hit points and regen. And all of that is pre-incarnate choices and without any purple sets. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Good looking build! I'll noodle around and see what I can adapt to Staff. Not ready for winter or superior sets yet but another one to add to the 50 wishlist.

Aw man, now I have to find slots for that too? :)

I always loved the "How the HELL did you survive THAT?" I'd get from teammates. "Hey guys when you get back, be careful ... I pulled some more." "I was so lonely."