That Ninja

Well I guess they could mirror how speedsters in DC are basically an extended family due to their connection to the Speed Force. Like all the Flashes, Impulses, Zooms, Johnny Quick, Jesse Quick, Max Mercury, and numerous others all share this link and powers. During some points in comic history Superman could keep up with the Flash, but theres a difference between Superman being a hero with super speed and the Flash who is a "speedster". They could use the story to take a look at speedsters in current Paragon City and past, with having story arcs featuring Synapse or look back at (or if they want to get bold, time travel featuring) Breakneck from the comics and statue in King's Row. As for powers, they could keep it simple by reusing ideas from other powersets, like buff allies with speed, debuffing enemies with speed reduction, defense based on speed, playing with recharge rates, quick attacks, etc. and if they want to be brave they could try adding a movement buff where your abilities' potency increase by how much you move around (capped of course) and perhaps even have an ability that works as a break free to reduce immobilizes during fights.

Perhaps they could use Broadsword animations in the right hand and pistol animations in the left?

Ki Push is also wrong for a "pulp" character and it's the mandatory power for the Martial Combat power set.

This was an idea I thought of while looking over Sentinel powers during creation. How about an assault powerset that goes for the "two-fisted tales" feeling by mixing either martial arts or street justice with dual pistols or perhaps use the old "single handgun firing" animation for the pistol attacks if it lines up better with the melee animations?

Anyone have a good Dual Pistols/Willpower build? I'm new to Sentinels and wanted to try out a pulp type character.

Why not have the katana animations be used for ranged attacks? I've seen a lot of media where characters can "slash" out beam attacks and even the claws power set in this game has the shockwave power.

Yeah, I always wanted a character who's powers emitted from their eyes.

This was an idea I had back when I played live. I always thought it would expand the concept of "gun user" if the devs added an alternate set of animations reusing the Energy Blast animations with a wrist-mounted gun model appearing in tandem. Although making a new model for wrist-guns will probably be some sort of task, there's a plethora of "point out arms" animations that could be employed that would expand the Assault Rifle concept into slightly more broad use for people who want to make a character like Deadshot, Black Widow, or just a robot/character with internal weapons. EDIT: Just realized that employing this to the Beam Rifle powerset would also add more to it for making power armor/robot/future people characters who don't want to just hold a gun.

Looks fun, might try it out for a "boilerplate hero" concept.

Sentinels have completely new mechanics compared to old ATs (and is going through more revisions) and all the existing Epic Archetypes reuse animations from other powersets in the game. Sentinels have a long way to being finely tuned like other ATs because of the new mechanics interacting with varying powersets and combinations, I just think that working off of an epic archetype that only has to consider a primary and secondary powerset and how they interact with each other would be a good test bed towards fulfilling a niche concept that an entire AT with new mechanics and numerous powerset interactions would.

Hey all, I've been seeing a lot of discussion about new archetypes with possible power set combinations in a lot of threads. There's a good deal of debate about how sets like buffing, assault, and manipulation will jell with one another in trying to make new iterations feasible. One thing I thought of is what if they tried testing this out with a new epic archetype? Epic archetypes are much more boilerplate with their power set choices, but they are the only archetypes that can really pick and choose differing ability types to fill out those power sets. For example, I've seen some examples of a possible "zoomer" or "speedster" archetype and whether they would use assault and manipulation or some other set. What if instead they made a "speedster" epic archetype with the same mentality of a kheldian or soldier of arachnos, picking and choosing which powers would encompass the more limited power sets, like filling it out with melee or ranged and giving some defense abilities or debuffs. Like how kehlds have inherent fly or teleport, they could have inherent super speed and perhaps reuse the flurry and other attack animations sped up and perhaps and comparable control abilities to show buffing friendly speed or slowing enemy movement. I know during live epic archetypes were meant to be more lore heavy, but I never felt like they really met that expectation, instead filling a specific niche that was hard to replicate with any of the other general archetypes (for instance I play a peacebringer to play up the "cosmic hero" concept). A speedster is a pretty specific concept in comics and media, while some characters can move at super speed in addition to their other powers, I believe almost every has a platonic idea when they think of a "super speed hero" (The Flashes and family, Quicksilver, Cyborg 009). I think possible new epic archetypes could be a nice test bed in balancing new concepts and powerset interactions in a more controlled manner.

Thank you for the update!

Was wondering if the non-sorcery builds are still viable. I've been wanting to play a beefy corrupter with /kin, but I must make a concession to my concept that sorcery doesn't fit in with.

Do you use super speed that much or did you pick it up for burnout?

Just a heads up but your latest build isn't opening in Pine's.

I'd go a step further and say they should also have greater weapon proliferation with regards to models. Why not add all the sword, axe, and mace models to dual blades, so players can make costume options wielding axes and maces in tandem, or even allowing broadsword, axe, and war mace powersets share all models because at this point we know that some powersets are better than others and it would give greater creative freedom if a player wanted one costume to use a sword while another had a mace, especially since those three sets use the same animations anyways.

A weird thing I just happened upon is that it's impossible to pair the Tanker option under Chest with a Sleeveless Jacket, despite being able to do so with a Jacket with sleeves. I was wondering if it would be possible to fix this and other costume options that don't clash as much as the devs believed back when the game was live, like the ability to wear the dual pouch sling option over the armored chest option instead of just the one, despite the fact that both bandolier chest pieces are allowed for armored despite the bandoliers and pouches being the same texture size.

Hey, this is a great looking build and something I've been needing help with. I was wondering if you would have suggestions for a build like this without a travel power? I mostly use ninja run with the jump pack to get around, so I would most likely pick up combat jumping to add some more defense during combat, but that would free up another power slot.

Seems like less of a problem now that you can reasonably fire off an AS from out of hide.

This is the Kin/Nin build I tried making a bit ago and it's kind of a mess. I really don't know what powers to take in Kin and I think I just want to drop Nin for SR Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Autumn Ghost: Level 50 Natural Stalker Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Body Blow (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage (3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance (3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (5) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (50) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 1: Hide (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 2: Smashing Blow (A) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Assassin's Mark - Damage/RechargeTime (7) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (9) Superior Assassin's Mark - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (9) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Superior Assassin's Mark - RechargeTime/Rchg Build Up Level 4: Ninja Reflexes (A) Kismet - Defense/Endurance (13) Kismet - Defense/Recharge (13) Kismet - Endurance/Recharge (15) Kismet - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (15) Kismet - Accuracy +6% (17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 6: Assassin's Strike (A) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage (17) Superior Stalker's Guile - Damage/Recharge (19) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (19) Superior Stalker's Guile - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (21) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (50) Superior Stalker's Guile - Recharge/Chance to Hide Level 8: Quick Strike (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage (21) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance (23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge (23) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (25) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (50) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 10: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 12: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Placate (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 16: Kuji-In Rin (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 18: Burst (A) Obliteration - Damage (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (33) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 20: Kuji-In Sha (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (33) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (34) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (34) Panacea - Hea/Recharge (34) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (36) Panacea - Heal Level 22: Danger Sense (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (36) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (37) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (37) Red Fortune - Defense (37) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 24: Caltrops (A) Slow IO Level 26: Focused Burst (A) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage (39) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance (39) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Recharge (39) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (40) Entropic Chaos - Chance of Heal Self Level 28: Smoke Flash (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Kick (A) Empty Level 32: Concentrated Strike (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (42) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 35: Superior Conditioning (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 38: Blinding Powder (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (46) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 41: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 44: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (46) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (45) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (46) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 47: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 49: Kuji-In Retsu (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 1: Assassination Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (11) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon Level 50: Vorpal Core Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment ------------

Do you think hasten would be good for staff or is the recharge good enough while IO'd?

I was only considering Ninjitsu for the utility, but the recharge on SR sounds like the way to go. Do you have any suggestions for epic power pools or is body mastery the go to?

That is very helpful, thank you. I've been seeing conversations here and other places about the usefulness of placate since the stalker changes allowing you to AS after a string of attacks. Do you have any say about this?

I don't know if you have any, but maybe some build examples could be helpful to new people like me. I wrote off stalkers for years and never got to try staff melee so I'm pretty lost in how to go about starting one.

Hey gang, I've recently heard that before the game got shut down the devs did a complete rework of stalkers to make them a lot better than they were for years. I'm interested in trying one, pairing the AT I never cared to play with the melee set I never cared to try, I've been having a dickens trying to come up with a build for this. I grouped with a stalker running Kinetic Melee/Ninjitsu and got some idea from them, but I'm still pretty lost. Has anyone tried experimenting or actually been playing a KM build? I'm leaning towards Nin or SR myself, but I don't know how they stack up as a stalker secondary.