Ice Armor's Wet Ice (and Ninjitsu's Kuji-In Rin)

[Haijinx]

Would making it equal to combat jumping help balance the set?   

 

It seems like EA gets more defense, Ice being what it is because it was originally tanker only.

[Replacement]

1 hour ago, Rylas said:

Bolding the part I disagree with. If Wet Ice was comparable (or even close) to CJ, making it enhanceable makes it a great choice for those who would like to hit soft-cap numbers without having to rely on IOs. As well as affording them the ability to open up pool power options by not using the Leaping or Leadership pool (one, but not likely both). It would allow for a lot more build diversity as well. 

 

And, if used as an IO mule (because there's absolutely nothing wrong with that on any level whatsoever other than completely personal reasoning - which we're all allowed to have and practice in our own builds), it would open up at least one slot for builds that aim to plug the fire resistance hole. 

 

With the little bit of help that Ice Armor could use, these kind of small adjustments offer the best help without altering the feel of the set. I can't see how this would be so controversial. 

So.... what are we arguing about?

 

This is called agreeing with me.  I just said I want it to go to Combat Jumping numbers, which is low enough that it feels crappy to IO for defense, but it's acceptable.  You just said taking it to CJ numbers would really help out.

 

So we both want it to get CJ numbers and be capable of taking Defense IOs.  Go team!

Edited September 17, 2019 by Replacement

[Some Random User]

On 9/12/2019 at 2:33 PM, Rylas said:

How about changing the power description? 

I incidentally have experience as a technical writer. I hate many of the tooltips. They are not up to snuff.

 

Someone should do a pass and update all of the tooltips.

 

Consider this an offer.

[Jeuraud]

2 hours ago, RenInferno said:

, but sitting there and crossing your arms and just going "WELL I THINK--" over and over doesn't help the conversation move forward.

It might not help the conversation, but it does help your thread by keeping it on the front page, just as this reply to you does. It does not matter how many times a person says No/Yes they are still just one opinion. The Devs are going to look at the data presented and the number of opinions on each side of the argument, not how many times someone has posted their argument... well I hope so anyways.

 

 

Now this probably will not help the OP to get what they want, but In my opinion,

all powers should be able to be slotted with IO sets,

and maybe there should be some Universal IO sets made that could be slotted into the powers that cannot be slotted with IO sets.

This has been suggested in other threads.

[Rylas]

22 hours ago, Replacement said:

So.... what are we arguing about?

 

This is called agreeing with me.  I just said I want it to go to Combat Jumping numbers, which is low enough that it feels crappy to IO for defense, but it's acceptable.  You just said taking it to CJ numbers would really help out.

All I was saying is that it's *not* crappy to slot for defense. A minor disagreement is all that was. Outside of such a minor point, yes, we're totes in agreement. 🙂

Edited September 18, 2019 by Rylas

[Incursion]

I've been playing a em/ice scrapper the last few weeks.  I hate that this power has no ability to be slotted, even if it were just for procs. I mean, we have permafrost which is such a waste of a power except being able to chuck in some franken slotting procs in there.  Wet Ice shouldn't outpace a big defensive armor like frozen/glacial, but a few percent would be nice, Even if it was just for cold defense. Right now to get my 5 LotG procs in, 1 goes in Frozen armor,  Glacial Armor, Weave, maneuvers (pretty common pool choices as tough i needed) and the last one in one of the other pool selections (stealth, vengeance, unleashed potential, shadow meld etc depending if you want to go in any of those directions).  This set really suffers without Tough and Weave and i have it fully IO'd. If it weren't for Tier 9 bastion and mixing in unleashed potential and shadow meld (yup i took both because dull pain just doesn't cut it).  The good news is if you chug a lot of recharge in bastion and unleashed can be either combined or alternated for nice stints of protection, shadow meld is really only good for true oh crap moments, as 3 seconds activation and 12 seconds of up time, then another 12-15 seconds down again it can be a drag to use.