DP / kin

Elleriel · May 17, 2020

Hello everyone

I recently created a corruptor DP / kinetic

I find some problems and could need some advices.

1/ DP seems lack DPS, i was i nteam with a corruptor fire and another corruptor energy and I feel doing rather low damage when i see their damage output.

2/ Kinetics : you lose al efficacity if you have problems hit ennemies (often higher lvl than you in big teams).

did I make an error choosing DP / kin ? (i'm lvl 26 atm and slotted in crafted lvl 25 enhancements).

Another question : is /trap playable ? seems too low to place when playing in grps rushing ennemies.

Asking myself if I would not reroll in / traps or / time ?

Thank you for your answers / advices.

Destlin · May 17, 2020

To bring dp into playable damage numbers you will need to use procs for your attacks. That being said it will still be low dps compared to almost every other set. Almost.

Elleriel · May 17, 2020

3 minutes ago, Destlin said:

To bring dp into playable damage numbers you will need to use procs for your attacks. That being said it will still be low dps compared to almost every other set. Almost.

What do you call "procs" ?

Destlin · May 17, 2020

Stuff like Touch of Lady Grey chance for negative energy damage. Parts of sets that produce a chance for damage on an attack. DP can slot a whole lot of them. If you are using mids you will be able to see that most abilities can slot 5 or 6 with dp.

Frostweaver · May 17, 2020

DP/kin is popular because it is a very late-blooming set that synergizes extremely well in melee range. It is solid in low to medium-level, but late-game, because of the fact that nearly every attack can slot the force feedback: chance for -recharge, and hail of bullets provides +12.5 defense to all positions, it thrives in the middle of a pack of enemies where kinetics does best as well.

Add in the fact that the tier 9, hail of bullets also has a low recharge that is still long enough to trigger almost any proc several times (like armageddon: chance for fire damage) and that you can slot an ENORMOUS amount of Global recharge bonuses and procs instead of pushing for set bonuses and damage (with fulcrum shift) it becomes a tank-mage with few equals.

The problem is that that strength is extremely expensive and very late game. And it involves weird tricks like splitting up your ATO sets, AND it's pure ranged damage suffers from the lack of build-up or a sniper attack (although with fulcrum shift no one cares) making it very powerful late-game both solo and on a team.

It requires patience, however.

DP/Time is also a very powerful combo, although not as synergistic as DP/Kin. Both /time and /traps are extraordinarily useful, traps has slightly better synergies in melee since FF drone, Hail of bullets, and weave practically cap all of your defenses without help, and hail, bullet rain, and toe-boming with a trip mine are incredibly powerful and can wipe out even +4 spawns in relative safety.

I highly recommend both kinetics and traps for Dual Pistol. I think Time works well, with everything, but it synergizes better with other primaries because it doesn't benefit as much from DP's short range strength and mitigation. Traps matures and stays strong earlier than kinetics, and is better against single hard targets, but kinetics has more potential on teams and in steamroll environments and trials.

If you decide to stick with kinetics, or go with traps, I strongly suggest asking people for build help... There are tons of tricks that can make you godlike, but many of them have been hammered out over the last year by builders and may not be immediately apparent to newer builders. You don't have to use someone else's build, but feel free to steal every trick you can find and use it in your own 🙂 . That's what we are here for.

Frostweaver · May 17, 2020

Thrown together build for DP/Kin:

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Level 50 Natural Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Dual Wield -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Transfusion -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11)
Level 2: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(15)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Bullet Rain -- SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(17), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(17), Ann-ResDeb%(19), ImpSwf-Dam%(19), FrcFdb-Rechg%(21)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(21), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(23), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), TchofDth-Dam%(25)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), GldArm-3defTpProc(29)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), Ksm-ToHit+(33), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33)
Level 24: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(36), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(36), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(36), GssSynFr--Build%(37)
Level 26: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 28: Piercing Rounds -- SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(A), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(39)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(42), Obl-%Dam(42)
Level 35: Transference -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(45), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(45)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(46), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46), StdPrt-ResKB(48)
Level 44: Increase Density -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(50)
Level 47: Repel -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(50), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Inertial Reduction -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(34)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13), PwrTrns-+Heal(13), PwrTrns-EndMod(15)
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 1: Quick Form
Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Carnival Radial Superior Ally
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Thrown together build for DP/Traps

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Traps
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Apc-Acc/Rchg(3), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Web Grenade -- TraoftheH-Immob/Acc(A)
Level 2: Caltrops -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A), ImpSwf-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(7), ImpSwf-Rng/Slow(9), ImpSwf-Acc/EndRdx(9), ImpSwf-Dmg/Slow(11), ImpSwf-Acc/Slow(11)
Level 4: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Bullet Rain -- SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(A), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(21)
Level 10: Acid Mortar -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(21), ShlBrk-%Dam(23), AchHee-DefDeb/Rchg(23), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(25)
Level 12: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25)
Level 16: Force Field Generator -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(27)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(29), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 20: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Poison Trap -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(31), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(33)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Piercing Rounds -- JvlVll-Dam%(A), JvlVll-Acc/Dmg(33), JvlVll-Dam/Rech(34), JvlVll-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(34)
Level 28: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(36)
Level 30: Seeker Drones -- CldSns-%Dam(A), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(37), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(37), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40), ExpStr-Dam%(40), Obl-%Dam(42)
Level 35: Trip Mine -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Arm-Acc/Rchg(42), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(43), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(50)
Level 38: Dark Consumption -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Obl-Acc/Rchg(45), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(45), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Dark Embrace -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-ResDam(46)
Level 44: Soul Drain -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(46), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(46), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(48), GssSynFr--ToHit(48)
Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Quick Form
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A), Clr-EndRdx(7)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13), PrfShf-EndMod(15), PwrTrns-+Heal(15)
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Both work by running into a fight, popping off your damage buff (fulcrum shift/soul drain) and then unleashing hell with hail and something else, based on which set you are using. In steamroll teams, the kinetic is much more desireable, while soloing or hard targets (Romulus, Freedom Phalanx) really allows traps to shine.

Darkir · May 17, 2020

4 hours ago, Elleriel said:

Hello everyone

I recently created a corruptor DP / kinetic

I find some problems and could need some advices.

1/ DP seems lack DPS, i was i nteam with a corruptor fire and another corruptor energy and I feel doing rather low damage when i see their damage output.

2/ Kinetics : you lose al efficacity if you have problems hit ennemies (often higher lvl than you in big teams).

did I make an error choosing DP / kin ? (i'm lvl 26 atm and slotted in crafted lvl 25 enhancements).

Another question : is /trap playable ? seems too low to place when playing in grps rushing ennemies.

Asking myself if I would not reroll in / traps or / time ?

Thank you for your answers / advices.

You did not make an error, just wait until you get fulcrum shift and ascend into dps godhood. In terms of builds, I would do the build below, it allows you to fight in melee with hail of bullets and repel, while being very close to the ranged softcap (.6 before hail of bullets). The most important thing about this build though is that hail of bullets is fully proc'd out with damage and -res. When you have have fulcrum shift hail of bullets will hit like a runaway truck when slotted this way and the build will provided a near constant uptime of the +100% recharge FF proc. As always with my kin builds there is no travel power because siphon speed+sprint=capped movespeed. I should note that you also have good resistances along with the good defenses. +4x8 shouldn't be a problem.

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Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Level 50 Natural Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Dual Wield -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 1: Transfusion -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11)
Level 2: Empty Clips -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), FrcFdb-Rechg%(15)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Bullet Rain -- SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(25), FrcFdb-Rechg%(27)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dam%(13), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(17), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(27), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), GldArm-3defTpProc(31)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(23)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(46)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(39), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFrt-Def(43), RedFrt-EndRdx(43)
Level 24: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(37), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(37), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(37), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--Build%(39)
Level 26: Piercing Rounds -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(46)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(33), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(36)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- Arm-Dam%(A), Erd-%Dam(34), Obl-%Dam(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34), ExpStr-Dam%(36), FrcFdb-Rechg%(36)
Level 35: Transference -- PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(A)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Increase Density -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-Max HP%(50), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Repel -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13)
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 1: Quick Form
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P.S. Shoutout to @Frostweaver, look at you recommending a build with repel slotted with FF and kb to kd. Makes me so happy. ^_^

Redlynne · May 17, 2020

12 minutes ago, Darkir said:

As always with my kin builds there is no travel power because siphon speed+sprint=capped movespeed.

While this is true, I personally like to add Inertial Reduction to the mix so as to be able to get to high places without resorting to use of Teleport (or Fly, or...). Inertial Reduction is just one of those deceptively USEFUL One Slot Wonder™ powers in Kinetics.

Darkir · May 17, 2020

Just now, Redlynne said:

While this is true, I personally like to add Inertial Reduction to the mix so as to be able to get to high places without resorting to use of Teleport (or Fly, or...). Inertial Reduction is just one of those deceptively USEFUL One Slot Wonder™ powers in Kinetics.

Yeah, its just very difficult to take it when you are going for great defenses on a corruptor. I take it on some builds in kinetics with two slots for the 1.25% range defense and the great utility. I just couldn't find the room if I was going to have 41%+ melee defense, 44%+ ranged def, AND have a proc'd out hail of bullets.

Frostweaver · May 17, 2020

5 hours ago, Darkir said:

P.S. Shoutout to @Frostweaver, look at you recommending a build with repel slotted with FF and kb to kd. Makes me so happy. ^_^

You gave me the idea. Once I tested it (on test) I was stunned at how much mitigation it really provides, even in a brutal farming environment. And on a Kin your end fluctuates but you replenish it constantly.
Gotta get a couple of accolades to make it work better, though 🙂

Elleriel · May 17, 2020

I thank you for all your answers, i'll need some time to study all these informations 🙂

Mercurias · May 18, 2020

On the contrary, I get a lot of compliments on my DP/Kin, and he's one of my favorite characters. Build below if you're curious. It isn't 100% optimized, but it's for S/L/E Defenses softcapped and tends to shred enemies just fine once Fulcrum Shift is applied.

Spoiler

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

Epsilon Black: Level 50 Science Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
------------
Level 1:   Pistols               Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(46), Thn-Acc/Dmg:50(46), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(50), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50), Dvs-Hold%:50(50)
Level 1:   Transfusion           Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), Prv-Heal/EndRdx:50(7), Prv-Absorb%:50(43), Prv-Heal:50(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 2:   Siphon Power           Acc-I:50(A)
Level 4:   Hasten               RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(48)
Level 6:   Swap Ammo
Level 8:   Bullet Rain           SprScrBls-Rchg/+End:50(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg:50(11), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg:50(43)
Level 10:   Siphon Speed           Acc-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11)
Level 12:   Empty Clips           Artl-End/Rech/Rng:50(A), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng:50(13), Artl-Acc/Dam:50(13), Artl-Dam/End:50(40), Artl-Dam/Rech:50(40), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech:50(42)
Level 14:   Boxing               SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(15), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(17), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(48)
Level 16:   Tough               GldArm-3defTpProc:50(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(17)
Level 18:   Executioner's Shot       SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc:50(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(19), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(19), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(21), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(40)
Level 20:   Speed Boost           EndMod-I:50(A)
Level 22:   Maneuvers           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(23), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(23)
Level 24:   Weave               LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(25)
Level 26:   Cross Punch           Arm-Dam%:50(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), Arm-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(29), Arm-Acc/Rchg:50(29), FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(39)
Level 28:   Inertial Reduction       BlsoftheZ-ResKB:50(A)
Level 30:   Tactics               GssSynFr--ToHit:50(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg:50(31), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(31), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx:50(31), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx:50(34), GssSynFr--Build%:50(37)
Level 32:   Hail of Bullets           SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%:50(A), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg:50(33), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(34), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34)
Level 35:   Transference           EffAdp-EndMod:50(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(36), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg:50(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg:50(36), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx:50(37), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc:50(37)
Level 38:   Fulcrum Shift           Acc-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(39), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 41:   Repel               EndRdx-I:50(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(42)
Level 44:   Scorpion Shield           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(45), Ksm-ToHit+:30(46)
Level 47:   Kick               KntCmb-Acc/Dmg:35(A)
Level 49:   Increase Density       EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1:   Brawl               Empty(A)
Level 1:   Quick Form
Level 1:   Prestige Power Dash       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Slide       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Quick       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Rush       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Surge       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Scourge
Level 1:   Sprint               Empty(A)
Level 2:   Rest               IntRdx-I:50(A)
Level 4:   Ninja Run
Level 2:   Swift               Run-I:50(A)
Level 2:   Health               Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(5), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(5)
Level 2:   Hurdle               Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2:   Stamina               PwrTrns-+Heal:50(A), PrfShf-End%:50(3), PwrTrns-EndMod:50(3)
Level 6:   Chemical Ammunition
Level 6:   Cryo Ammunition
Level 6:   Incendiary Ammunition
Level 50:   Agility Radial Paragon
Level 50:   Mighty Radial Final Judgement
Level 50:   Reactive Core Flawless Interface
Level 50:   Robotic Drones Core Superior Ally
Level 50:   Clarion Core Epiphany
Level 50:   Melee Core Embodiment
------------

Frostweaver · May 19, 2020

@Mercurias: could you throw up a build with a datalink? I'd like to poke around with it in Mids and see if there's a trick or two to steal 🙂

Edited May 19, 2020 by Frostweaver

Mercurias · May 19, 2020

I can try to post a data link, but I built it in the version of Mids with the new sets. Cutting/Bleeding/Arterial Spray Edge or w/e.

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1578&c=732&a=1464&f=HEX&dc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

plainguy · May 20, 2020

This is not my build but a rework from Darkir on my build.

Personally think its the best DP/Kin build around as it lets you stay in the fight.. We went back and forth and we squeaked this out. I honestly don't think anyone can do better..

Again credit to Darkir

The Melee and Range defense cap is really nice.

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Natural Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Dual Wield -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 1: Transfusion -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11)
Level 2: Empty Clips -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), FrcFdb-Rechg%(15)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Bullet Rain -- SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(25), FrcFdb-Rechg%(27)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(17), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(27), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), TchofDth-Dam%(43)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), GldArm-3defTpProc(31)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(23)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(46)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(39), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFrt-Def(43), RedFrt-EndRdx(43)
Level 24: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(37), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(37), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(37), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--Build%(39)
Level 26: Piercing Rounds -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(42)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(36), FrcFdb-Rechg%(36)
Level 35: Transference -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 44: Increase Density -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(46), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-Max HP%(50)
Level 47: Repel -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(48)
Level 49: Inertial Reduction -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(48), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(50)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13)
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 1: Quick Form
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Edited May 20, 2020 by plainguy

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