Sweeping Cross - Builder AND Spender?

[Vanden]

Something I’ve found when playing Street Justice is that Sweeping Cross starts feeling a little superfluous once I have Spinning Strike, and a lot superfluous once I have Crushing Uppercut. As a combo finisher, I don’t want to use it before I hit level 3 combo, but once I have level 3 combo, the other two finishers are almost always a better choice to spend it. This means I rarely actually use it, which is a problem as it’s one of the only two AoEs StJ gets.

 

To solve that, I think the easiest solution would be to make it so if you have level 2 combo or lower, it builds combo instead of spending it. That makes it much easier to use in a chain at higher levels, and improves StJ’s anemic AoE potential.

[RCU7115]

I just deleted my lvl 50 SJ/WP Brute. The combos didn't bother me as much as Spinning Strike be a TAoE attack. it should be a PBAoE attack. With Spinning Strike being a TAoE it's really just a cone attack and as a brute or tank you want everything around you not just in front of you.

[Dropwing]

I'm considering respecing my STJ / NIN stalker and one of the tweaks I was looking at was replacing Sweeping Cross with Cross Punch from the Fighting pool as the build has plenty of room for power picks. Don't know though haven't looked at the numbers closely yet. 

[Vanden]

44 minutes ago, Dropwing said:

I'm considering respecing my STJ / NIN stalker and one of the tweaks I was looking at was replacing Sweeping Cross with Cross Punch from the Fighting pool as the build has plenty of room for power picks. Don't know though haven't looked at the numbers closely yet. 

I’ve been considering the same thing. My build already has Weave so there’s no build reworking, just gotta swap the powers. I think the flexibility of being able to use Cross Punch without it messing up combos might be worth the power being a little weaker. Making Sweeping Cross a combo builder would convince me to keep it, though.

[nihilii]

4 hours ago, Dropwing said:

I'm considering respecing my STJ / NIN stalker and one of the tweaks I was looking at was replacing Sweeping Cross with Cross Punch from the Fighting pool as the build has plenty of room for power picks. Don't know though haven't looked at the numbers closely yet. 

Been there, done that, and it is worth it - at least on a Scrapper. More or less breaks even with using a fast snipe in ST damage.

[kiramon]

6 hours ago, Dropwing said:

I'm considering respecing my STJ / NIN stalker and one of the tweaks I was looking at was replacing Sweeping Cross with Cross Punch from the Fighting pool as the build has plenty of room for power picks. Don't know though haven't looked at the numbers closely yet. 

 

And good news!

They have the same animation -_-;

 

[Cutter]

It's a cool idea. And there's precedent for it too - Dehydrate in Water Blast has a dual build/spend role.

[Chance Jackson]

I tend to use sweeping cross right after using the buildup equivalent then I build my combo & use another finisher before build up equivalent ends definitely can't fit 2 crushing uppercuts in that 10 sec period

Edited July 19, 2020 by Chance Jackson

[Vanden]

1 hour ago, Chance Jackson said:

I tend to use sweeping cross right after using the buildup equivalent then I build my combo & use another finisher before build up equivalent ends definitely can't fit 2 crushing uppercuts in that 10 sec period

I would rather use Spinning Strike for the bigger AoE or Crushing Uppercut for the bigger damage right after Combat Readiness, while Gaussian's Build Up proc is still affecting me.

[Dropwing]

Update: I did respec but I picked up both Sweeping Cross and Cross Punch. The Forcefeed proc in CP means between SC, CP and SS I have a near continuous AoE chain which is neat because a lack of AoE is one of Street Justices biggest weaknesses. 
 

I agree with Jackson also, SC is a good alternative to  CU, while it’s on cool down, in an attack chain. That said SC would be sweet as a builder and finisher. 

[Chance Jackson]

11 hours ago, Vanden said:

I would rather use Spinning Strike for the bigger AoE or Crushing Uppercut for the bigger damage right after Combat Readiness, while Gaussian's Build Up proc is still affecting me.

Fair enough