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Positive Gamer is the only CoH streamer that I can think of.  When I watched him, he was actually inviting people who were commenting on his stream that they wanted to join and were giving him their character or global name.  I have no problem with that.  If I had happened to be in the background when he was inviting I also would have no problem with that.

 

At least for me, I'm not talking about a fly-by where I might be in someone's stream for a second.  I am specifically talking about people creating a team, inviting me (or whoever) and not telling people on that team that they are streaming. 

 

If that doesn't bother you, that's OK.  But it bothers me.  Just like it would bother me if a friend invited me to a party at his house but was secretly broadcasting the event.

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Ok, fair enough. I see your point.

 

What I really don't want to see, however, is the devs spending a bunch of time coding in some kinda thing that shows people when you're streaming, instead of spending time on power sets or content or whatever.

 

The other thing that puzzled me was people that seemed to be having some real serious issues with the mere thought that their character would appear on someone's video. That's why I said what I said (which got deleted so I won't repeat it). I actually wasn't trying to insult people with what I said, but whatever. Maybe I just misunderstood the severity of their concerns.

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Make it an in character thing too then 😛 Get a freebie from the P2W of a tiny camera that floats over your head, with Paragon News/WSPDR/TPN stencilled across it!  REPRESENT! Be the embedded correspondent in the team! Activating that pops up a STREAMING above your head and off ya go.

 

I dunno.

 

 

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I suspect it will be treated like pretty much any other game in existence and in history, where people will be allowed to stream whatever they want in a multiplayer game as long as it abides by the rules and terms of service, like they already do now in CoH.  Expecting every streamer to ask every player that might fall into camera view for the stream if it is ok is well.. basically too much to ask.  Labeling them as 'scummy' for not doing that as Arcane just did is certainly far more directly offensive than someone catching a player who doesn't want to be streamed on the game camera.  I don't remember this outcry regarding recorded Youtube videos of multiplayer CoH the past 15 or so years either.

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Okay, I've been following this thread since my initial reply.  I still don't understand why people object to being streamed, but you do, of course, have a right to decide for yourself what you find offensive.

 

I must say though, to @Bionic_Flea and anyone else hoping for steamers to politely ask them for permission to stream them, I think you've got to reset your expectations.  The average human on this sad planet doesn't give a tin-shit about preserving your feelings or respecting your privacy.  This is doubly true on the internet.

 

To be completely honest, I've never seen the appeal of streaming games or watching games, apart from maybe checking out a new title to see if you might want to purchase it (although, my kid binge watches them like it's actual entertainment, or something).

 

It may just be a generational thing and I've officially entered "Old-Dude-is-Old" phase of my life.  😛

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3 hours ago, Triumphant said:

I must say though, to @Bionic_Flea and anyone else hoping for steamers to politely ask them for permission to stream them, I think you've got to reset your expectations.  The average human on this sad planet doesn't give a tin-shit about preserving your feelings or respecting your privacy.  This is doubly true on the internet.

 

Meh.  I'm old too, married almost 30 years and have adult kids.  I'm used to being disappointed . . . .

 

Edit:  Oh!  And I don't need them to ask for permission, just a heads-up.  I've seen several people do that on LFG on Excelsior, "Streaming kill most ITF, PST," for example.  That's all I'm asking for.

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On 8/18/2021 at 11:50 AM, Triumphant said:

To be completely honest, I've never seen the appeal of streaming games or watching games, apart from maybe checking out a new title to see if you might want to purchase it (although, my kid binge watches them like it's actual entertainment, or something).

 

In a general sense, there is no reason to watch someone that is just streaming a game. And by that, I mean that when a streamer has no interaction with viewers, doesn't talk and doesn't have a camera (or v-tuber || don't ask || ), all they are doing is streaming their game play. Watching something like that has no value other than getting a sneak peek at the title to see if you would maybe want to play it yourself as you noted.

 

With a slightly wider view of what streaming provides, there is value there. There are streamers out there that provide a lot of gaming content adjacent to the game itself that can enhance the experience. For example, last year when Cyberpunk 2077 released, I did not have a computer that could support play, nor did I have a PS or XBox. Two accomplished streamers that I follow took different spins on the roleplay aspect of the game as the experience unfolded. They elevated the experience beyond what you could get from peering over someone's shoulder as they played the game. One streamer took notice of the absurdity of the flavor text on a weapon mod and rolled with it to influence his character's actions. The other streamer latched onto a relationship with an NPC and used that as their character's motivation in the universe. Both displayed exceptional competency in "playing" the game, but they added their own extra elements to the play through that made it a mercurial experience. It becomes entertainment because it would just be a game if all they did was play the game. 

 

There are also other streamers that are just technically strong at identifying game mechanics and understanding how to attack the problem to solve it (play it better, faster, etc). It can be an educational experience to see how they go about their business. And depending on the streamer, they might actually talk through their though process to help viewers understand. It can also serve as a check on your assumptions about how you would accomplish things. 

 

Not all streamers go to those lengths, so you have to find the content creators that provide what you seek. Viewership numbers or buzz on a streamer is not an indicator of quality content unfortunately. 

 

I often have a stream open on another monitor while I do other things (play my own game, work, whatever). Sometimes it is background noise. Other times I am actively paying attention. 

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