RogueWolf Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) Probably the biggest thing that can make alting feel repetitive is the fact that in order to get the 4 ever-important Accolade buffs to HP and End, you have to check off the same list. Save the mystic again, go to these markers, don't forget Echo: Galaxy, read these plaques, run a Moonfire. Then go to these markers, read these other plaques, farm Fake Nems... etc. Or you could take the Redside options, some of which are kind of obnoxious. (take 1 mil dmg and pay off 200k debt? Really?) But even putting that aside, that's only 2 choices. It can get a little stale. Could we come up with some comparable steps to unlock the accolade? Maybe make them separate badges, but the buffs would not stack of course. Like hunting Paragon Protectors or Devoured instead of Fake Nems? Ancestor spirits and Sorcerers instead of Warwolves and Vampires? Or do the signature arcs instead of TFs? Or get credit for rescuing Percy instead of the Mystic. Just spitballing possibilities. And while you're at it, is there any chance you can move all of the exploration and history markers out of the Echo zones and put them somewhere else? Edited May 29, 2021 by RogueWolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageusQuitus2 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) Those accolades are free in pvp zones. Street sweep or run content there. Just get your alpha. But it sounds like a good idea to me. Edited May 29, 2021 by RageusQuitus2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraspingVileTerror Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Well, there's a Red way and a Blue way to get each Accolade, what if they added a Yellow way? Complete content in Nova Praetoria, Imperial City, Neutropolis, each of their Undergrounds (I almost forgot those even exist), First Ward, and Night Ward to earn the Accolades a third way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageusQuitus2 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, GraspingVileTerror said: Well, there's a Red way and a Blue way to get each Accolade, what if they added a Yellow way? Complete content in Nova Praetoria, Imperial City, Neutropolis, each of their Undergrounds (I almost forgot those even exist), First Ward, and Night Ward to earn the Accolades a third way. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, RageusQuitus2 said: Those accolades are free in pvp zones. ... aren't those the "only work in PVP zone" versions, or am I remembering wrong? And while I don't chase the accolades, I wouldn't argue with alternate paths. Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageusQuitus2 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, Greycat said: ... aren't those the "only work in PVP zone" versions, or am I remembering wrong? thats right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Well, you can go red side and switch it up, as it sounds like you are always going blue (note: I said "sounds" :p) Don't know why one would have to move things out of the echo zones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 To be fair, it's very possible to simply skip these accolades. I've only got half of them on my main. "Having" to do them on your alts, again and again and again, is a choice. That said, I don't object to the idea of alternate methods to acquire the badges. 2 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWolf Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, BrandX said: Don't know why one would have to move things out of the echo zones though. Simply to save us the hassle of running to a zone for no other reason than to read a plaque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, RogueWolf said: Simply to save us the hassle of running to a zone for no other reason than to read a plaque. How many people go, "Okay. I just entered this zone. Let me grab these plaques before I do anything else"? I just finished getting the Authority Badge just the other day. I had been to IP before of course, but still had to run to IP to go get that plaque I had never really be in the area of before. Not to mention, there's those plaques I might've read before when I hit a zone, because you pass by them and think on it (Talos by the statue, plaque, comes to mind) but when I was actively going for Authority, I realize, I hadn't stopped at it on that character, even though I flew passed it many times (even had the exo badge nearby already). So, going to zones for no other reason but to read a plaque, seems like it's likely to be the case, for most of the player population. I doubt most have an add-on for nearby badges/plaques (I believe there is one, I just don't have it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWolf Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MTeague said: "Having" to do them on your alts, again and again and again, is a choice. While technically true, for me, Atlas Medallion is a must have for all of my toons, as is Portal Jockey really. Not an absolute game-breaking necessity, but it gets aggravating running out of endo. I only feel the "need" to get TFC for my scraps and sents really. I would like to get FPR more often, but the hunting Fake Nems part gets tedious. I'd rather stab myself in the throat with a better knife than repeat one of those outdoor maps over and over like I've discovered a lot of people do. It'd just be nice to have variety for levelling. Edited May 30, 2021 by RogueWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I am sort of hoping plaques get their own Tour Guide Mission Tips. I mean, sure, I could download a map mod, etc, but I generally don't. I do stop to read them when I notice them, but I woudln't be surprised if i commonly breeze past several without even realizing it. (though to be fair, that's a choice I make, too....perfectly good solutions out there I dont' make use of) 1 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 While I don't object to the suggestion of alternate paths for some of the accolades, I object to a couple of the specific examples you mention - mostly because some of the badges mentioned (paragon protectors and sorcerers) apply to other accolades, so you'd be doubling up. And hey, look on the bright side with the villain accolades: it's no longer 2 million debt for High Pain Threshold and 10 million damage for Born in Battle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RogueWolf said: While technically true, for me, Atlas Medallion is a must have for all of my toons, as is Portal Jockey really. Not an absolute game-breaking necessity, but it gets aggravating running out of endo. I only feel the "need" to get TFC for my scraps and sents really. I would like to get FPR more often, but the hunting Fake Nems part gets tedious. I'd rather stab myself in the throat with a better knife than repeat one of those outdoor maps over and over like I've discovered a lot of people do. It'd just be nice to have variety for levelling. TFC doesn't really seem like a chore, considering it's gotten easily through TFs and if one really wants to, can just wait to run some of those TFs as WST to get more merits out of them and never run them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 minute ago, BrandX said: TFC doesn't really seem like a chore, considering it's gotten easily through TFs and if one really wants to, can just wait to run some of those TFs as WST to get more merits out of them and never run them again. Or hop redside, find someone who has the contact unlocked, and just blitz through Invader in about 20 minutes including travel and mission reset time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, siolfir said: Or hop redside, find someone who has the contact unlocked, and just blitz through Invader in about 20 minutes including travel and mission reset time. Is there a single contact that allows you to get those? That's all the Mayhem missions, right? Doesn't that require tip missions and such and not just "Load up Mayhem mission when I want"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BrandX said: Is there a single contact that allows you to get those? That's all the Mayhem missions, right? Doesn't that require tip missions and such and not just "Load up Mayhem mission when I want"? Yes there is a single contact where a level 50 could select and run any/all of them. But it requires an unlock (Hero Slayer badge), which is why I said find someone that has him. Edited May 30, 2021 by siolfir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 3 hours ago, BrandX said: How many people go, "Okay. I just entered this zone. Let me grab these plaques before I do anything else"? *raises hand* I'm going for the explores in any case - nice, fast 5 merits - and the plaques tend to be on the way, so I grab them. But I'm odd like that. Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greycat said: *raises hand* I'm going for the explores in any case - nice, fast 5 merits - and the plaques tend to be on the way, so I grab them. But I'm odd like that. Do you do that during a TF? Or you go zone to zone at the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, BrandX said: Do you do that during a TF? Or you go zone to zone at the start? It honestly depends. Usually I've been to a zone before ever dealing with a TF anyway, but if something's somewhere near an objective... sure, I'll hop over, click, and keep going. I won't have people wait while I get *all* of them or anything - that's just rude - but if we're still forming and I have time to kill? Sure. Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 The work is worth the reward. No change needed. Players can easily make up the difference these accolade perks apply through IO set bonuses and temp buffs from SG bases and P2W vendors (or from teaming). Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWolf Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 It cracks me up what people feel compelled to argue against. Heaven forbid we have more paths to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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