SR/RAD Tank for the ASF?

[The_Warpact]

In one of the many conversations I had about the new Aeon SF, @Bill Z Bubba got me to thinking on finally rolling a SR tank..

Whats everyones thoughts on this build?

The high def numbers, some s/l resist, and the -def of rad and the aura, seems plausible. 

How is the heal on /Rad? More useful as damage or a heal proc monster?

[Bill Z Bubba]

I've heard the heal is solid but I can't get around the many long-ass animations. That said, having Irradiated Ground in the set to make up for SR's lack of a damage aura sounds pretty good. And, yes, SR did just fine in the DASF as main tank.

[Werner]

I ran an SR/MA Tanker solo through the first mission on relentless on beta. I don't have anything to compare to and haven't read other feedback on the new strike force, so I can't say if it went well or poorly, but it was slow going. Lots of pulling and running, and I did die once, but that was entirely due to my own stubbornness, and before I realized they were using Vengeance.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Werner

[The_Warpact]

26 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

I've heard the heal is solid but I can't get around the many long-ass animations. That said, having Irradiated Ground in the set to make up for SR's lack of a damage aura sounds pretty good. And, yes, SR did just fine in the DASF as main tank.

Same thing I was thinking of on IG, the animations are a pain I have a Rad/Fire broot and I skip alot of the attacks just because of the time. So instead I rely on PPPs to make up for it. 

I have Rad Siphon slotted for dmg so was unsure of the dmg.

[BZRKR]

Radiation Siphon has to hit a Contaminated target for the heal to go off, so it can be a little unreliable. However, Irradiated Ground can be slotted with a number of damage and utility procs, and the patches keep things mad at you  if they stand in them. I have a SR/Rad/Soul Tanker that I use to pull on MSR and it's survivability vs Lvl 54 Rikti is great. It should be a good combo on the ASF, especially with team support.

[The_Warpact]

8 minutes ago, BZRKR said:

Radiation Siphon has to hit a Contaminated target for the heal to go off, so it can be a little unreliable. However, Irradiated Ground can be slotted with a number of damage and utility procs, and the patches keep things mad at you  if they stand in them. I have a SR/Rad/Soul Tanker that I use to pull on MSR and it's survivability vs Lvl 54 Rikti is great. It should be a good combo on the ASF, especially with team support.

Ah, yes I see what you're talking about now that I'm looking at Mids. Thanks for the info!

[Erratic1]

16 minutes ago, BZRKR said:

Radiation Siphon has to hit a Contaminated target for the heal to go off, so it can be a little unreliable. However, Irradiated Ground can be slotted with a number of damage and utility procs, and the patches keep things mad at you  if they stand in them. I have a SR/Rad/Soul Tanker that I use to pull on MSR and it's survivability vs Lvl 54 Rikti is great. It should be a good combo on the ASF, especially with team support.

 

Radiation Siphon by itself has a decent chance (32%) to apply Contaminated and with not a lot of recharge bonus you can then follow up with a hit will consume it. When in a group you can also use Atom Smasher, which has a 35% chance to apply and keep an eye out for which targets get 'Contaminated' above their heads. 

 

I will say that Proton Sweep and Devastating Blow are miserable powers (a real shame in the case of Devastating Blow since it comes with a 50% chance to apply Contaminated) and I do not use those on my Elec/Rad Tanker, substituting in Cross Punch (Box, Kick, Weave) which gives you a recharge boost for every foe it hits and so helps you cycle back around on your Radiation Siphons. 

 

All this to say that I do not have too much problem getting Radiation Siphon to go off for extra healing. Of course I also have Electric Armor's healing but Radiation Siphon is a noticeable boost, and if you want you can squeeze in the Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance proc too.

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Erratic1

[BZRKR]

19 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

 

Radiation Siphon by itself has a decent chance (32%) to apply Contaminated and with not a lot of recharge bonus you can then follow up with a hit will consume it. When in a group you can also use Atom Smasher, which has a 35% chance to apply and keep an eye out for which targets get 'Contaminated' above their heads. 

 

I will say that Proton Sweep and Devastating Blow are miserable powers (a real shame in the case of Devastating Blow since it comes with a 50% chance to apply Contaminated) and I do not use those on my Elec/Rad Tanker, substituting in Cross Punch (Box, Kick, Weave) which gives you a recharge boost for every foe it hits and so helps you cycle back around on your Radiation Siphons. 

 

All this to say that I do not have too much problem getting Radiation Siphon to go off for extra healing. Of course I also have Electric Armor's healing but Radiation Siphon is a noticeable boost, and if you want you can squeeze in the Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance proc too.

 

Heh, yes 🙂 Among my regular group, we call it "Devastatingly Slow".

I skip Proton Sweep all the time, every time.

[Erratic1]

8 minutes ago, BZRKR said:

Heh, yes 🙂 Among my regular group, we call it "Devastatingly Slow".

I skip Proton Sweep all the time, every time.

 

I feel somewhat bad about the need to skip those two powers and console myself with having taken every other power in the set. 

 

Elec having a damage aura on top of the one you get from Rad, I am just now contemplating proc'ing those bad boys out as it works out to be a minor hit to Melee Defense (3.75%) from what I currently have.

[The_Warpact]

So I sorta (I did it) copy someones SR/ minus the secondary (cough cough Bill Z), and added my on flair (not really). To create my anti ASF tank because, like Khan I want REVENGE! Not on the Shat mind you but, that damn SF.  So advice/critique is appreciated, I wanted a short attack sequence too.

 

 

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Lord Menace: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(3), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Rct-Def/Rchg(5), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Rct-ResDam%(7)
Level 1: Contaminated Strike -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Focused Senses -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(7), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(43)
Level 4: Proton Sweep -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(11), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Arm-Acc/Rchg(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(17), AchHee-ResDeb%(45)
Level 6: Practiced Brawler -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 12: Evasion -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(13), ShlWal-Def(13), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(43)
Level 14: Dodge -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ShlWal-Def(46), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(47)
Level 16: Radiation Siphon -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(27), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Hct-Acc/Rchg(34), TchoftheN-Heal(36), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(36)
Level 18: Agile -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), ShlWal-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48)
Level 20: Fusion -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(36), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(37), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(37), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(37), AdjTrg-Rchg(40)
Level 22: Lucky -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def(47), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(49)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Quickness -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 28: Irradiated Ground -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(34)
Level 30: Tough -- TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), TtnCtn-ResDam(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(31), GldArm-3defTpProc(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33)
Level 32: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-EndRdx/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def(46)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Atom Smasher -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Absorb%(19), Pnc-Heal/+End(19), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(21), RgnTss-Regen+(42)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(23), PrfShf-End%(25), PwrTrns-+Heal(25)
Level 8: Afterburner
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
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[PLVRIZR]

Solid, for sure. 

 

I'm about to finish my SD/DM (anti-ASF) build and we'll see how he does.

 

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