Jaro Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Hi all, I already have a Spines/Fire and am happy with her, but i would like to try a second farmer. Any suggestions there (if possible not a fire or spines :) ) Thanks! Playing the Loons together with my GF on Excelsior, mine are usually Cleo's or Jaro's. Global handles: @Jaro @Mistress Cleo @Jaro Loon Anyone know a good doctor to treat Altoholic?
Corruption Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Honestly, there's not another secondary that can compete with /Fire. The added damage from Blazing Aura, Burn and Fiery Embrace makes the set. Super Strength is still a really good primary for farming. Foot Stomp with the FF proc is just that good.
HelenCarnate Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 /Fire is the go to for farming as long as AE exists. Burn, damage aura and FE are tons of aoe goodness without a primary. Anything else will be slower. But if you are looking for fun over speed I would try Rad/Bio. Still 2 damage auras and Bio can be much more sturdy outside of AE farms compared to /Fire
Rylas Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 But if you are looking for fun over speed I would try Rad/Bio. Still 2 damage auras and Bio can be much more sturdy outside of AE farms compared to /Fire Can confirm, Rad/Bio is a wickedly fun combination. The -Def and -Res the combo, along with Contamination and its AoEs provides a lot of orange numbers. :D Request hi-res icons here. Download the Icon Pack here!
marcussmythe Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 But if you are looking for fun over speed I would try Rad/Bio. Still 2 damage auras and Bio can be much more sturdy outside of AE farms compared to /Fire Can confirm, Rad/Bio is a wickedly fun combination. The -Def and -Res the combo, along with Contamination and its AoEs provides a lot of orange numbers. :D Running Spines/Bio. I don't even consider her a farmer, shes just a whirly ball of death that I do all my missions on at x8, inadvertently 'farming' influence and drops while getting to do cool missions and stories. That said, compared to Fire, yeah, no comparison. Burn is Burn and has been since launch. Great Justice - Invuln/Energy Melee Tank Ann Atomic - Radiation/Super Strength Tank Elecutrix - Electric Blast/Super Reflexes Sentinel Ramayael - Titan Weapons/Bio Scrapper C'len - Spines/Bio Brute
Impact Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Though I've barely started mine, I've seen many recent posts in various places saying Rad/Fire is the most effective AOE farming build of them all. YMMV, etc., have no personal experience to confirm it.
HelenCarnate Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Though I've barely started mine, I've seen many recent posts in various places saying Rad/Fire is the most effective AOE farming build of them all. YMMV, etc., have no personal experience to confirm it. It is up there with spines/fire but once you get into ultra recharge area (like 175% or so) SS/Fire beats them both, least if we are talking about AE farms with only fire damage. Perma double rage is a sight to behold.
Impact Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Maybe, maybe not. I saw a couple players say that their max budget Rad/Fire significantly outperformed their max budget SS/Fire. Again, I don't have the personal experience to judge.
Erratic1 Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Though I've barely started mine, I've seen many recent posts in various places saying Rad/Fire is the most effective AOE farming build of them all. YMMV, etc., have no personal experience to confirm it. I have a 36 Rad/Fire Brute. He drinks endurance like nobody's business.
Jaro Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 Thanks everyone. Still thinking what to do, so many choices and all are so tempting. Maybe SS/Bio or Rad/Bio :) Playing the Loons together with my GF on Excelsior, mine are usually Cleo's or Jaro's. Global handles: @Jaro @Mistress Cleo @Jaro Loon Anyone know a good doctor to treat Altoholic?
Rylas Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Thanks everyone. Still thinking what to do, so many choices and all are so tempting. Maybe SS/Bio or Rad/Bio :) If you go with Rad/Bio, I'd recommend Musculature Core Paragon in your Alpha slot for added damage and -def enhancement values, and Reactive Radial Flawless in your Interface for a little extra -Res debuff and Fire DoT for more mixed damage. You know, once you get to 50 that is. Request hi-res icons here. Download the Icon Pack here!
HelenCarnate Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Maybe, maybe not. I saw a couple players say that their max budget Rad/Fire significantly outperformed their max budget SS/Fire. Again, I don't have the personal experience to judge. Sounds like one of their builds is more optimal than the other. I went on test server, put my best builds side by side. Both with perma hasten and a constant attack chain of AOE goodness. No inspirations and on the same map 5 runs each. My worst time with SS was better than my best time with Rad. Not saying Rad is bad, for the vast majority of the game it is better. But you simply cannot beat double rage being perma and adding to every attack. +160% for 50 out of 60 seconds is simply better than +50% every 10 out of 25 seconds even when that other 10 out of 60 seconds is time doing no damage.
Corruption Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Maybe, maybe not. I saw a couple players say that their max budget Rad/Fire significantly outperformed their max budget SS/Fire. Again, I don't have the personal experience to judge. Sounds like one of their builds is more optimal than the other. I went on test server, put my best builds side by side. Both with perma hasten and a constant attack chain of AOE goodness. No inspirations and on the same map 5 runs each. My worst time with SS was better than my best time with Rad. Not saying Rad is bad, for the vast majority of the game it is better. But you simply cannot beat double rage being perma and adding to every attack. +160% for 50 out of 60 seconds is simply better than +50% every 10 out of 25 seconds even when that other 10 out of 60 seconds is time doing no damage. I would like to test this out and now that you mention it, the test server is the perfect place. Has anyone tried using Hero Stats? It didn't work for me when I tried, but I didn't do any troubleshooting. As far as SS/Fire goes, I personally don't double stack Rage and back on live I didn't even use Rage at all. 10 seconds of no damage really hurts your DPS. You should be munching on red inspirations and converting everything that drops to them. The 15' radius on Foot Stomp is the differentiator. It's really good and the FF +rech proc goes off almost every time if you're hitting the target cap.
HelenCarnate Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 I figured using no inspirations on either was the best way to compare the sets side by side. That way I could make sure they were equally sturdy. Only had to heal a couple times when rage crashed but with rad my end and hp bar hardly moved. Full disclosure, the Rad was more fun even though it was a little slower due to never having to stop.
Jaro Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 @Helen: Would you (or of course everyone else) be willing to share builds? That would be great. I slowly get the grasp, but not really great at doing great builds myself. Playing the Loons together with my GF on Excelsior, mine are usually Cleo's or Jaro's. Global handles: @Jaro @Mistress Cleo @Jaro Loon Anyone know a good doctor to treat Altoholic?
Rylas Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 @Helen: Would you (or of course everyone else) be willing to share builds? That would be great. I slowly get the grasp, but not really great at doing great builds myself. I'll post my Rad/Bio build when I can. With just SOs (haven't started IOing out yet). Request hi-res icons here. Download the Icon Pack here!
HelenCarnate Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 There was a thread asking for build critique and I posted my SS builds there. Can't figure out how to link on my phone. Ill throw in both when I get home. Seriously Rad/Fire is fun and I'm looking forward to learning the ins and outs of bio as it is totally new to me. And home. Ok this Rad/Fire is seriously end game stuff on a massive budget but I played with it on the test server and my Endurance bar and Health bar hardly ever moved. I would not try to level up using this build as it lacks any meaningful single target damage. Since I was only planning on using it for fire farms, my goal was to get 45% Fire defense. Then pump up recharge as much as I can along with recovery and HP. As a side effect due to other bonuses in the sets I used I got up to 30% defense to S/L and melee and a decent amount of S/L resist as well if you turn on Tough. I went with Agility for the recharge/end and just enough defense to soft cap fire then Ageless took care of all my endurance issues. Now I went with assault for Hybrid but Support or Melee work too if you want to do regular content and shore up some of the holes in Fire. Feel free to add any tweaks or suggestions. I know this thing is an AOE death machine but there is probably some changes that could be made to make it even better that I am not seeing or am just not aware of (or forgot after several years) Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Radioactive Smash (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (48) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (48) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (48) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (50) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 1: Fire Shield (A) Aegis - Resistance (21) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (21) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (46) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge Level 2: Blazing Aura (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (9) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (15) Superior Brute's Fury - 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HelenCarnate Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Now the SS/Fire I had a bit more wiggle room due to not having to slot a damage aura in the primary but it is still very tight. The only time I had health issues was when rage crashed and I got hit with the defense debuff but the heal is on a 10 second recharge and that was plenty to keep me off the floor. I have a build with more recharge but less defense so I have to rely on lucks when farming until I can afford to get all the stuff for this build. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Super Strength Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Jab (A) EmptyLevel 1: Fire Shield (A) Aegis - Resistance (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (34) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (37) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (37) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge Level 2: Blazing Aura (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (25) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 4: Healing Flames (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (5) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 6: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - 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Rylas Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Ok, I lied. This build has IOs. Haven't had the opportunity to test it out yet. There's 44.4% S/L defense and 40% recharge bonus. Nothing too uber, since I wanted a somewhat affordable build. I'm sure it could be improved upon. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Brohemoth Rad-Bio: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Hero Profile: Level 1: Radioactive Smash -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46) Level 2: Contaminated Strike -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7) Level 4: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def(15), LucoftheG-Rchg+(17) Level 6: Proton Sweep -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(17), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(19), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Obl-%Dam(25) Level 8: Radiation Siphon -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11) Level 10: Inexhaustible -- Heal-I(A) Level 12: Super Jump -- Empty(A) Level 14: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(37), MckBrt-Rchg(46) Level 16: Adaptation Level 18: Irradiated Ground -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(25), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Obl-%Dam(31) Level 20: Evolving Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 22: Ablative Carapace -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(39), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(39), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), DctWnd-Rchg(45) Level 24: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A) Level 26: Devastating Blow -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 28: DNA Siphon -- TrmIns-Taunt(A), TrmIns-Taunt/Rchg(43), TrmIns-Dsrnt%(45), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(45), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(46), Mrc-Heal/Rchg(50) Level 30: Fusion -- RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(A), RctRtc-ToHit(40) Level 32: Atom Smasher -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(34) Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(36), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Obl-%Dam(37) Level 38: Parasitic Aura -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(40), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(42), Pnc-Heal(42), Pnc-Heal/+End(42) Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50) Level 44: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 47: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 49: Weave -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(50) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A) Level 16: Defensive Adaptation Level 16: Efficient Adaptation Level 16: Offensive Adaptation ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1485;686;1372;HEX;| |78DA6594596F125114C7EF74865228D56269E9C20EA5150A2DD17763EDF22028B61| |F804CE82D4C431932D0C43EFAECAE8FFA197C715FBF91CB834613173CDCF30F2199| |49C86FE6DC7BFEF79CFF99A172732BF06CF7D625A14D5E6999DD6E6DD339E9494FC| |56C5875415770D3B19BF2D8EE35137BE64161D3B2BD145D52BB6A15D992B24871CB| |EC59769B9FE3BCB6250F65BB2B8B9451BBEE34CCB655AF5D768E6D4704AAB6DD2A9| |6A5D9B1DA0DBF7AD8EF487930A56E77AC46B3470B41F554A1BCCE494BC92F6C77AC| |7A71BB2D9DC669AD62767BD239E572E7A9A455FADDC90A5C7D5D540929438CDD00F| |798C63EF3799AA8A9BD86F8AE0BB16208FF0F66E027F88B5908D3C6A8216E679142| |FA1AF40DE88F437F1CFA2F495F677D5D9FA69B9221CE04C110737A967997743DACE| |BF1FC1EE3B53FCC737FC17FCCB93E735EE88AF729D78B9ABCA86902354DA0263F6A| |7A4135F9B826E1CB08951FA6E449CE17937DBAC403529C82E254934F4B1E313316B| |370CC7C458A6759B1FF90F282E822882EE6D145045DC4D0450C5DC4D0C57BD299D1| |FCEACC194C23846984308D394CE31DED9DE5738CD9ABEC60B60C56C06BCCB52A738| |EBA0CA3F3708C3B7F44F52EA0DE0538B708E716E15C04CEE58E382767313F500D4B| |EA5DE87B9624F532436B87CCB506B8CF67175053695753F5DFA373A37CAE167DCA7| |B579E301FD35A1C35C5E161021E26E061021E26E161121E7EA49A52C84D21378DDC| |3472D3C8CD203783DC4F94BBCCFE7B96231C5B898231E6F938980093CC1479BBCAD| |E6AAB79F6A7046AB496C7DB95576F974E9122BE8B2226BD8E49AF63D2EB98B4417B| |37A0BC81A995C08831FCD6072F1F29E75C910D57A4E48A5C70452EBA223BC6F0BFA| |25F76AD568DE1BF82D054C4372D06BEAAFD9FC9544D1B5DFDEA8A7C7145BEB9226F| |065F1A345F8FDCBF1DB9FF0F688B0C4B| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Request hi-res icons here. 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Rokkeb Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Claws / electric was a popular Power level and semi farm build back in the day.
marcussmythe Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Im attaching a Spines/Bio. I know you said 'no spines', but just use it for the Bio part - primary can pretty much be swapped for any other, just juggling the enhancements to fit in appropriate powers. I built this out to hit or snuggle standard softcap in defensive adaptation - leaving more build room for rchg and other things rather than trying to softcap in offensive adaptation - I wanted to have a reason to use all three 'stances' and switch between. My actual live build makes some changes, now that I look at it - I dropped Lunge (bad DPA) for SS (Quality of Life - I like having two travel powers), and switched Hover/Fly for CJ/SJ. Also rocks a bit less def than whats below (once I realized what I was getting from Defensive Stance). Still, should be a decent starting place. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! C'len: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Spines Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Barb Swipe -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(5) Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9) Level 2: Spine Burst -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Arm-Acc/Rchg(11), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Arm-Dmg(13) Level 4: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15) Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(17) Level 10: Inexhaustible -- DctWnd-Heal(A), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(19) Level 12: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(19), Rct-ResDam%(21), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(21) Level 14: Tough -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(23), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Ags-Psi/Status(25) Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27) Level 18: Quills -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(31) Level 20: Adaptation Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31) Level 24: Ablative Carapace -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(33), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(33), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 26: Ripper -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 28: Evolving Armor -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(36) Level 30: DNA Siphon -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(37), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 32: Lunge -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(39), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39) Level 35: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(42) Level 38: Genetic Contamination -- Erd-Dmg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(43) Level 41: Parasitic Aura -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(43), Prv-Heal(43), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(45), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Prv-Heal/Rchg(45) Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(46) Level 47: Throw Spines -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(48), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(50) Level 49: Fly -- Flight-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(39), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Health -- DctWnd-Heal(A), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(50) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A) Level 20: Defensive Adaptation Level 20: Efficient Adaptation Level 20: Offensive Adaptation Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Invader Level 0: Marshal Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon ------------ Great Justice - Invuln/Energy Melee Tank Ann Atomic - Radiation/Super Strength Tank Elecutrix - Electric Blast/Super Reflexes Sentinel Ramayael - Titan Weapons/Bio Scrapper C'len - Spines/Bio Brute
FUBARczar Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 There other combos that work well too, I have no trouble with +4x8 on my War Mace/Shield, so you could easily try /Shield with and of the following melee powers Psionic Radiation War Mace Electricity
marcussmythe Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 There other combos that work well too, I have no trouble with +4x8 on my War Mace/Shield, so you could easily try /Shield with and of the following melee powers Psionic Radiation War Mace Electricity Everything is good with shield that you can take with shield. Shield makes bad sets good and good sets great. Great Justice - Invuln/Energy Melee Tank Ann Atomic - Radiation/Super Strength Tank Elecutrix - Electric Blast/Super Reflexes Sentinel Ramayael - Titan Weapons/Bio Scrapper C'len - Spines/Bio Brute
Payne Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 I personally love my rad/fire Brute and Ice/Fire Blaster for mass farming. All depends on what type of farms too. Dan's AE is obviously anything that can cap fire, BM S/L, so on.
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