thebondfamily Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Hello friends, I've recently created Neofire, a 3x Fire scrapper toon and I am just about to unlock incarnates. I main blasters mostly, and across all toons have over 20 level 50s, many completely slotted. I have never built an end game scrapper outside of my claws/Sr and would love to see what people can come up with for this tripple Fire build. Influence is not a problem, and I would enjoy the build being as maxed as possible for the purpose of single target DPS in TF/Solo/GM/AV game play. Let me see what you have! Thanks all, I look forward to your ideas! Edited January 13, 2022 by thebondfamily
thebondfamily Posted January 13, 2022 Author Posted January 13, 2022 Bump before bed. I am really loving this toon, just really need an end game build to work towards. Mostly I want to wreck ST DPS, I group and Solo TFs and incarnate level content often if that helps for a point of reference as to my goals with this toon.
thebondfamily Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 Another boopity bump I suppose, No one wants to take a crack at this?
Sovera Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Fire melee is not great so few take it, and fire armor is generally not taken on a Scrapper due to lack of agro aura and Burn making enemies run. So this is a pretty rare combo. Now if you said rad/fire Brute with rad colored fire-y... Anyway, this is not helping you. Try posting your build and consider a Brute switch. - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.
TheMuna Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Sovera said: Fire melee is not great so few take it, and fire armor is generally not taken on a Scrapper due to lack of agro aura and Burn making enemies run. So this is a pretty rare combo. Now if you said rad/fire Brute with rad colored fire-y... Anyway, this is not helping you. Try posting your build and consider a Brute switch. In addition to the helpful info above, Fiery Aura is a Resistance set and is therefore limited by the lower resistance caps of Scrappers.
thebondfamily Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Thanks for the info but I already know all of this. I don't care much for taking sets just because they are "more powerul", and like I said, I have well over 20 level 50s and already have most of the generic "good stuff" builds. I'm well aware of the combos potential and also its flaws, however this is the toon, and that's not changing. It's not like I'm limited to a certain amount of characters and therefore can only make a few that everyone else also makes, I enjoy a massive variety of toons and for this guy, well, this is him. Edited January 15, 2022 by thebondfamily
Aracknight Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) It never ceases to amaze me that as people post their long lists of accomplishments and level 50 characters, they directly follow it with another day, another "build it for me" post. I wonder if there is a level of cause and effect between people complaining about others not knowing how to play their characters and people coming here and asking others to build it for them. There's another string on these boards asking for a "beast" build. Truth is, any Scrapper can be a beast, and anything you build can be effective, fun, and awesome, if you know the ins and outs of it, what it can do, what it can't, and how to push it to your limits. I roll an old school MA/SR that I put into ridiculous situations every day. It has no taunt aura. It doesn't do Big Orange Numbers. But I'll take it into any situation any single day and twice on Sundays because I know what it can do and what it can't. If BillZ handed me his Scrapper build, I wouldn't know dick about how to use it because I didn't test it, I didn't put it through its paces, and all I did was trust that he knew what he was doing based on his (amazing and earned) reputation. But to get to that place, you gotta do the work to try to see what works and what doesn't. on your own, and then maybe ask for some feedback and tweaking after you do the work. Sorry guys, I'm usually a lot more positive than this. Sorry to OP and anyone else I ruffle with this. I must be having an off day. Edited January 15, 2022 by Aracknight Brevity 1
BrandX Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Aracknight said: It never ceases to amaze me that as people post their long lists of accomplishments and level 50 characters, they directly follow it with another day, another "build it for me" post. I wonder if there is a level of cause and effect between people complaining about others not knowing how to play their characters and people coming here and asking others to build it for them. There's another string on these boards asking for a "beast" build. Truth is, any Scrapper can be a beast, and anything you build can be effective, fun, and awesome, if you know the ins and outs of it, what it can do, what it can't, and how to push it to your limits. I roll an old school MA/SR that I put into ridiculous situations every day. It has no taunt aura. It doesn't do Big Orange Numbers. But I'll take it into any situation any single day and twice on Sundays because I know what it can do and what it can't. If BillZ handed me his Scrapper build, I wouldn't know dick about how to use it because I didn't test it, I didn't put it through its paces, and all I did was trust that he knew what he was doing based on his (amazing and earned) reputation. But to get to that place, you gotta do the work to try to see what works and what doesn't. on your own, and then maybe ask for some feedback and tweaking after you do the work. Sorry guys, I'm usually a lot more positive than this. Sorry to OP and anyone else I ruffle with this. I must be having an off day. I'll post a build that I think is good and ask for suggestions. And hell, in Pylon Thread there's recent talk of a build not many may have thought of. However, I'll have to disagree on some thing. /SR so you know you don't have any defense clicks. Some builds may be tricky, but not all. 😛
Aracknight Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Practiced Brawler would disagree. Elude too, if we're being 100% accurate 😛
Sovera Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Aracknight said: It never ceases to amaze me that as people post their long lists of accomplishments and level 50 characters, they directly follow it with another day, another "build it for me" post. I wonder if there is a level of cause and effect between people complaining about others not knowing how to play their characters and people coming here and asking others to build it for them. There's another string on these boards asking for a "beast" build. Truth is, any Scrapper can be a beast, and anything you build can be effective, fun, and awesome, if you know the ins and outs of it, what it can do, what it can't, and how to push it to your limits. I roll an old school MA/SR that I put into ridiculous situations every day. It has no taunt aura. It doesn't do Big Orange Numbers. But I'll take it into any situation any single day and twice on Sundays because I know what it can do and what it can't. If BillZ handed me his Scrapper build, I wouldn't know dick about how to use it because I didn't test it, I didn't put it through its paces, and all I did was trust that he knew what he was doing based on his (amazing and earned) reputation. But to get to that place, you gotta do the work to try to see what works and what doesn't. on your own, and then maybe ask for some feedback and tweaking after you do the work. Sorry guys, I'm usually a lot more positive than this. Sorry to OP and anyone else I ruffle with this. I must be having an off day. Not at all. I'm still helping people but I do feel it slowly coming as well. You're not incorrect that someone with 20 levels 50 should be at a point they no longer need to request builds. I'll wait until a build is posted and then post some tweaks to it. 1 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.
thebondfamily Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 I build and have built alot of my own builds and have toons that have soloed ITFs with custom builds. Forums are for the sharing of information. Just because I ask for a build doesn't mean I'm going to specifically follow that advice blind. I'm just looking for ideas and have stated previously that out of most of my toons I don't play scrappers (also referring I built built claws/Sr myself.) I'm not sure why people assume because someone asks for advice or help they don't have the capacity to serve themselves....
Aracknight Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Aracknight said: Sorry guys, I'm usually a lot more positive than this. Sorry to OP and anyone else I ruffle with this. I must be having an off day. I'll quote my apology from my original post and reiterate that I'm sorry. I had a quick draw reaction on an off day. I hope you find what you are looking for and enjoy your Scrapper. 1
thebondfamily Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 You don't have to apologize, I understand most of the sentiment you are relating, I'm just pointing out that I did preface my request and this is not that.
Seed22 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 16 hours ago, thebondfamily said: I build and have built alot of my own builds and have toons that have soloed ITFs with custom builds. Forums are for the sharing of information. Just because I ask for a build doesn't mean I'm going to specifically follow that advice blind. I'm just looking for ideas and have stated previously that out of most of my toons I don't play scrappers (also referring I built built claws/Sr myself.) I'm not sure why people assume because someone asks for advice or help they don't have the capacity to serve themselves.... Best to post the build you have in mind. I myself have 45+ 50s, but even then sometimes I find myself stumped. In that instance, either: A.) Post the build and ask for tweaks. B.) Wing it. C.) Look for a mids builds similar to my own and tweak it as well. End results so far seem pretty alright. Also some builds I find, even at max efficiency just aren't fun, not min max good metas, I'm talking off the beaten path builds. Aspiring show writer through AE arcs and then eventually a script 😛 AE Arcs: Odd Stories-Arc ID: 57289| An anthology series focusing on some of your crazier stories that you'd save for either a drunken night at Pocket D or a mindwipe from your personal psychic.|The Pariahs: Magus Gray-Arc ID: 58682| Magus Gray enlists your help in getting to the bottom of who was behind the murder of the Winter Court.|
thebondfamily Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Seed22 said: End results so far seem pretty alright. Also some builds I find, even at max efficiency just aren't fun, not min max good metas, I'm talking off the beaten path builds. I agree with this alot. I eventually nailed an Ill/Time custom build on my troller, but had rolled it a few different ways first and post-50 just kept feeling like I wasn't doing what I wanted to do with it. After settling on Ill/Time and getting into IOs it all just kind of fell together and Myth Master is one of my favorite toons now.
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