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I need one of you galaxy brain builders to look at this and see what needs improving!
Caveats: I need Cloak of Fear for the character concept.

I'm concerned about the low accuracy on Cloak of Fear. Should I be, or should I not care?

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PLVRIZR

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Looks solid, just a couple of suggestions:

 

-Move one of the three slots in Hasten to Health (diminishing returns on recharge), and drop the Preventative Medicine +absorb proc there.  Up the level of the two remaining recharges in Hasten, to get some of that back.

-Replace the Efficacy Adapter in Stamina with a third piece of Performance Shifter (will net 35 HP).

-Toxic is one of the only holes, so I would move the Armageddon damage proc from Soul Drain to Siphon Life, for the six-piece bonus...but I totally get why you'd want it in an AOE.

 

Minor/personal preference tweaks to a great build.  Well played.

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1: There is NO NEED to put +Acc in Taunt.  It's an auto-hit power.
2: Giving up Death Shroud deprives you of a major source of DoT.

Here's a modified build for considerations, or at least to give you some ideas.

 

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  On 6/23/2022 at 5:36 PM, Hyperstrike said:

1: There is NO NEED to put +Acc in Taunt.  It's an auto-hit power.
2: Giving up Death Shroud deprives you of a major source of DoT.

Here's a modified build for considerations, or at least to give you some ideas.

 

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Ooh!

you're not concerned about stacking tohit debuffs making you miss everything?

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  On 6/23/2022 at 6:11 PM, Wravis said:

Ooh!

you're not concerned about stacking tohit debuffs making you miss everything?

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No, not for Taunt.  As Hyper noted, it's auto-hit.  I missed that one and would have recommended a Perfect Zinger +psi damage proc, instead.  I use that on almost all my tankers.

 

Finally, you can put a Force Feedback +recharge proc in Kick.  Even if you don't have Kick in your attack rotation, it's fun to use in long AV fights, just to see if it fires.  I also use Kick on Rage crash on SS toons, because it doesn't do much damage anyway, but if the proc fires, free bonus!  Finally, I just hate empty slots on my Enhancement screen or in Mid's.

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Wravis

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I meant for all attacks, not taunt. But I didn't know taunt was auto-hit, so that's useful.

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  On 6/23/2022 at 6:11 PM, Wravis said:

Ooh!

you're not concerned about stacking tohit debuffs making you miss everything?

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All the attacks are at around 200 to 220% chance to hit +3 in the build they posted. But you need only to take Focused Accuracy to avoid accuracy debuffs.

 

 

That said everyone is right and taking your damage aura is good and no need for the Kismet either. If you go to your Mid's options, then 'Exemplar&Math' you can switch the ToHit to 48 which is hitting +3 enemies which is where you will be after slotting at least a T3 in Alpha.

 

With your build and without the Kismet or Soul Drain toggled on you're already at 110% for most attacks (cap is 95%). With one target in Soul Drain range this shoots up to 233% chance for most attacks.

 

Consider that the Tanker proc in Shadow Maul gives 6.7% to all resistances and stacks three times of which Mids only shows one. That means your build is already past 90% and there are another 6.7% to come (consider that two stacks is reliable and three stacks is a bit more rare between misses and proc chances).

 

So I would lover resistances a bit to account for an incoming 6.7% (ergo put your resistances at 83-84%). If you intend to take Barrier as a panic button you can account for another 5% on top of that, but Dark being endurance heavy you will want Ageless and/or Cardiac instead.

 

 

 

Something like this I guess. A nice row of 85% waiting for a second ATO proc, better Hasten, bit more energy resistance, more S/L defense (though it is meant for Barrier which you will probably not be taking, though Cardiac alone might suffice). I did ditch Taunt because you can go and punch what you need to taunt but if you want it back drop Combat Jumping even if it means 7.5% less recharge. Also more damage with better slotting for your attacks.

 

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  On 6/23/2022 at 8:13 PM, Sovera said:

 

 

All the attacks are at around 200 to 220% chance to hit +3 in the build they posted. But you need only to take Focused Accuracy to avoid accuracy debuffs.

 

 

That said everyone is right and taking your damage aura is good and no need for the Kismet either. If you go to your Mid's options, then 'Exemplar&Math' you can switch the ToHit to 48 which is hitting +3 enemies which is where you will be after slotting at least a T3 in Alpha.

 

With your build and without the Kismet or Soul Drain toggled on you're already at 110% for most attacks (cap is 95%). With one target in Soul Drain range this shoots up to 233% chance for most attacks.

 

Consider that the Tanker proc in Shadow Maul gives 6.7% to all resistances and stacks three times of which Mids only shows one. That means your build is already past 90% and there are another 6.7% to come (consider that two stacks is reliable and three stacks is a bit more rare between misses and proc chances).

 

So I would lover resistances a bit to account for an incoming 6.7% (ergo put your resistances at 83-84%). If you intend to take Barrier as a panic button you can account for another 5% on top of that, but Dark being endurance heavy you will want Ageless and/or Cardiac instead.

 

 

 

Something like this I guess. A nice row of 85% waiting for a second ATO proc, better Hasten, bit more energy resistance, more S/L defense (though it is meant for Barrier which you will probably not be taking, though Cardiac alone might suffice). I did ditch Taunt because you can go and punch what you need to taunt but if you want it back drop Combat Jumping even if it means 7.5% less recharge. Also more damage with better slotting for your attacks.

 

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Can you post the data chunk importy thing? For some reason I can't download the file by clicking the link to download it.

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  On 6/23/2022 at 9:22 PM, Wravis said:

Can you post the data chunk importy thing? For some reason I can't download the file by clicking the link to download it.

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Be sure to have the latest Mids, just in case.

 

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For some reason I can't access the Mids website, so I can't open that link to download. Either I'm stupid or Mids is down. Or both!

But thank you.

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Highly recommend slotting Touch of Fear with procs. Here's my build for reference.

 

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  On 6/23/2022 at 6:11 PM, Wravis said:

Ooh!

you're not concerned about stacking tohit debuffs making you miss everything?

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See: Auto-Hit.

Yes, I'm following up after this is pointed out.

But this is a conversation, so I figure I should answer so it doesn't seem like I drop a bomb on you and run....

ENJOY THE THERMAL DETONATORRRR!!!!!

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  On 6/23/2022 at 7:52 PM, PLVRIZR said:

Finally, I just hate empty slots on my Enhancement screen or in Mid's.

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  On 6/24/2022 at 3:16 AM, Hyperstrike said:


See: Auto-Hit.

Yes, I'm following up after this is pointed out.

But this is a conversation, so I figure I should answer so it doesn't seem like I drop a bomb on you and run....

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There are 10 other abilities in the build that are not taunt that are not auto hit though.

The build I was responding to did not have focused accuracy, that's what I was addressing 😛

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  On 6/24/2022 at 3:16 AM, Hyperstrike said:


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Fo sho.

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Just adding the damage aura on tankers that have them is your actual taunt aura. Lag a little and they will stay aggroed to you in your aura. Taunt aggroes mobs into your Aura with -range. 

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