kheldians The (Almost) Complete guide to Kheldians

[Laucianna]

16 hours ago, HachiMan2015 said:

So trying the changeling schtick with the general build is 450 dps? 

Yep on average 💛 Granted this is with being super tanky still

[HachiMan2015]

I'm from Canada so the moose was a big honour to bestow 😀

[Laucianna]

Updated - 11/03/2025 - Updated Human only Peacebringer build, and added a general build for Warshade that can be used as Tri Form and normal changeling

[Knightbrace]

I just started building a Peacebringer. I’m aiming for human form with the other two single slotted for solving problems. Will see how it works out. 
 

Quantum Chicken lives

[bdick99]

was trying to look through feed and maybe I missed but was looking at incarnates and wonder what incarnates are best for PB?

[SeraphimKensai]

3 hours ago, bdick99 said:

was trying to look through feed and maybe I missed but was looking at incarnates and wonder what incarnates are best for PB?

Alpha: Intuition Radial or Musculature
Interface: Degen or Reactive
Judgement: Dealer's Choice
Destiny: Barrier, Clarion, or Ageless Radial (for slow res and more recharge)
Lore: Dealer's Choice, but something with -res can be nice.
Hybrid: Assault Radial

All my opinion, so some others may vary on it.

[Laucianna]

21 hours ago, bdick99 said:

was trying to look through feed and maybe I missed but was looking at incarnates and wonder what incarnates are best for PB?

I personally run:

Cardiac Core
Reactive Radial
Ageless Radial
Assault Hybrid

(Lore and Judgement are up to personal preference)

[Zombra]

Hi!  I have a couple lore type questions about merging/unmerging I'd like some feedback on.

 

1) Both this thread and @Greycat's excellent Lore and Backstory thread mention that both PBs and WSs can voluntarily separate.  Is separation a thunderous, high-effort, stressful process that takes hours (or longer)?  Is it as simple as stepping out of a room and stepping back in?  Somewhere in between?  Do we know of canon on what this looks like?  If not, what's your personal take?

 

I'm kind of thinking I like the idea of my character valuing their human perspective, and wanting to spend time apart, perhaps even on a daily or weekly basis.  Would this be consistent with what we know?

 

2) Regarding "duplicates", it's interesting to read that Nova and Dwarf forms are no longer merged with a given Kheldian PC - they were merged at some point in the past but I guess the hosts either died or were separated before the pure energy form came to Earth.  And now the Kheldian can turn into a "duplicate" of the former host's body, perhaps using the biomass of the human host.  Do I have this right?  I guess it makes sense that you can only have one physical host at a time and can't just turn into pure energy while merged.  Although wait, Light Form contradicts this.

 

What about the personality?  Does a Kheldian still retain memories and personality when separated?  I guess it would be kind of weird if they did - imagine separating willingly and then talking to an alien who was still 1/2 your personality.  So I feel like they "remember" the bodies but not the minds, which all seems strange - how would a Kheldian even know how to shoot a Gleaming Bolt out of its tentacle if it didn't retain at least some of the mind?  Either way it's weird.  Also it seems like if the human voluntarily separates (or dies), the Kheldian should now be able to "remember" the human body too - though I guess they wouldn't have the biomass to actually manifest it.

 

I don't really have a question so I guess I'll just ask, does my take on all this stuff make sense to you?  Is there lore that says different?  Do you have your own take you'd like to share?

 

Thanks in advance for any perspectives.  Particularly hoping to hear from @Laucianna and @Greycat but all feedback welcome 🙂

 

 

Edited April 14 by Zombra

[Laucianna]

1 hour ago, Zombra said:

Hi!  I have a couple lore type questions about merging/unmerging I'd like some feedback on.

 

1) Both this thread and @Greycat's excellent Lore and Backstory thread mention that both PBs and WSs can voluntarily separate.  Is separation a thunderous, high-effort, stressful process that takes hours (or longer)?  Is it as simple as stepping out of a room and stepping back in?  Somewhere in between?  Do we know of canon on what this looks like?  If not, what's your personal take?

 

I'm kind of thinking I like the idea of my character valuing their human perspective, and wanting to spend time apart, perhaps even on a daily or weekly basis.  Would this be consistent with what we know?

 

2) Regarding "duplicates", it's interesting to read that Nova and Dwarf forms are no longer merged with a given Kheldian PC - they were merged at some point in the past but I guess the hosts either died or were separated before the pure energy form came to Earth.  And now the Kheldian can turn into a "duplicate" of the former host's body, perhaps using the biomass of the human host.  Do I have this right?  I guess it makes sense that you can only have one physical host at a time and can't just turn into pure energy while merged.  Although wait, Light Form contradicts this.

 

What about the personality?  Does a Kheldian still retain memories and personality when separated?  I guess it would be kind of weird if they did - imagine separating willingly and then talking to an alien who was still 1/2 your personality.  So I feel like they "remember" the bodies but not the minds, which all seems strange - how would a Kheldian even know how to shoot a Gleaming Bolt out of its tentacle if it didn't retain at least some of the mind?  Either way it's weird.  Also it seems like if the human voluntarily separates (or dies), the Kheldian should now be able to "remember" the human body too - though I guess they wouldn't have the biomass to actually manifest it.

 

I don't really have a question so I guess I'll just ask, does my take on all this stuff make sense to you?  Is there lore that says different?  Do you have your own take you'd like to share?

 

Thanks in advance for any perspectives.  Particularly hoping to hear from @Laucianna and @Greycat but all feedback welcome 🙂

 

 

I can't remember any instances of a willing separation between host and Kheldian though it has been a while since I delved into the lore, however the process of forced separation is well documented both in the case of Lars Mendelson and even with the player character when attacked with Quantum weaponry as that is meant to tear the Kheldian from the host body (Which if we go by game mechanics is so painful it can cause death)

Though how I would imagine the situation being if you want to do that with your character is liking being married for 50 years, where your own life and personality is so intertwined with another's, so much so that when they are not there you constantly forget certain things (Like having to take out the trash, pay bills etc) and that deep sense of longing for them to be back. Then depending on how much your Host or Kheldian knows that they will be reunited will change how they act as it would be like knowing your other half will be back on the weekend or not knowing if they will ever be back 💛


As for point 2 I don't believe it uses the biomass of the human host but instead makes the energy stored within them take physical form hence why they are normally coloured the same as the rest of your energy attacks, similar to hard light things in other sci fi settings where it's just light energy but made able to interact with the world around it. Light Form (Wisp form) itself is the natural state of a Kheldian, a being of pure energy that isn't even able to be physically manipulated hence why when activated you are able to walk through any players or NPCs similar to being phase shifted, difference is we can still attack in light form so it's not a case of we phase to another plane of existence.

For the memory and personality both still retain memories both when first joining together and when separated (Again see marriage analogy where after the split you will still have your personality but a big chunk of it feel like it's missing). With remembering past human hosts I do not believe it is ever seen in game but there is nothing saying you can not take the form of a previous host and can lead to some good roleplay with the different costumes you could have and aether costumes (Such as having Rikti or Devouring earth as previous host bodies)

However saying all that, at the end of the day this is YOUR character and the lore can be whatever you want it to be for that character, if you want to roleplay as Venom with the Kheldian talking to you then do that! If you want to roleplay as a Nictus going around collecting host bodies to later transform into then do that 😄 The actual lore of the game constantly contradicts itself and changes itself so there is no harm in you doing it for your character if it means you enjoy playing them more! 💛