lemming Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Every so often I've been noticing that when I fire Sniper Blast on my Energy Blast/Dev Blaster that the effect goes off, seems to hit the target, but nothing happens. No aggro, combat log shows all that I did was activate Sniper Blast. No to hit check or anything. added note: Pretty sure it only happens with the long snipe Edited June 20, 2023 by lemming add 2
Saiyajinzoningen Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 yup also noticed this with other snipes too sometimes FX are extremely delayed 2 Its easy to criticize a suggestion but can you suggest an alternative?
Greycat Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, lemming said: Every so often I've been noticing that when I fire Sniper Blast on my Energy Blast/Dev Blaster that the effect goes off, seems to hit the target, but nothing happens. No aggro, combat log shows all that I did was activate Sniper Blast. No to hit check or anything. added note: Pretty sure it only happens with the long snipe Did the target go out of line of sight? Even behind some object where you can "see" them but not entirely? They just have to do it for a moment, when it tries to initially (or secondarily) do its checks... I'd assume something "blocked" it before it did its check, if you're not seeing anything listed. Edited June 21, 2023 by Greycat Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window
lemming Posted June 21, 2023 Author Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Greycat said: Did the target go out of line of sight? Even behind some object where you can "see" them but not entirely? They just have to do it for a moment, when it tries to initially (or secondarily) do its checks... I'd assume something "blocked" it before it did its check, if you're not seeing anything listed. I should have mentioned. Straight line to them and everything and the target was not moving. Usually when the target winds up going behind something, the shot doesn't happen. This one is fully activated, goes to the target, and just fizzles.
UltraAlt Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 7 hours ago, lemming said: Every so often I've been noticing that when I fire Sniper Blast on my Energy Blast/Dev Blaster that the effect goes off, seems to hit the target, but nothing happens. No aggro, combat log shows all that I did was activate Sniper Blast. No to hit check or anything. added note: Pretty sure it only happens with the long snipe I can't say for sure if this is true in your case, but this is what happens can happen if you are out of target range. next time, try to move a bit closer and see if it goes off. If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them.
lemming Posted June 22, 2023 Author Posted June 22, 2023 On 6/20/2023 at 8:50 PM, UltraAlt said: I can't say for sure if this is true in your case, but this is what happens can happen if you are out of target range. next time, try to move a bit closer and see if it goes off. Nope. So, it might have something to do with range, but don't think so. At 165' able to fire it off and it does the nothing happens. Right after recharge, works great. No moving of either party between firing. Just did a few more firings and haven't gotten it to happen again and on the complete edge of range. (167')
honoroit Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 occasionally the snipe mode interrupts itself. ive found this true in all of them. it used to have a much longer interruot period and no fast snipe mode. diesnt show an effect tho, just cancels. perhaps its at edge of range, and I notice it, trying to use it as an opener. typically, a second press solves the issue. 1
lemming Posted June 22, 2023 Author Posted June 22, 2023 6 hours ago, honoroit said: occasionally the snipe mode interrupts itself. ive found this true in all of them. it used to have a much longer interruot period and no fast snipe mode. diesnt show an effect tho, just cancels. perhaps its at edge of range, and I notice it, trying to use it as an opener. typically, a second press solves the issue. Still goes thru the animation of the shot and recharge time.
honoroit Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, lemming said: Still goes thru the animation of the shot and recharge time. is it repeatable? can you video it? it might help isolate the issue. Edited June 22, 2023 by honoroit
lemming Posted June 22, 2023 Author Posted June 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, honoroit said: is it repeatable? can you video it? it might help isolate the issue. Not repeatable on command, since it's not quite range or movement involved. May even have to do with the devices secondary.
honoroit Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 for me, the animation will play, but cancel at its end. the aiming animation, NOT the emission of the power at target, it stops before that, immediatly before in fact. but its never consumed the cooldown. it does show as activated, but thats because i entered the interrupt period for slow snipe, then for some reason (likely edge of range) it cancels. it would be nice if it cancelled immediately, but again, i think when this is going on im at the edge and a mob hitbox flickered out of it. that or i wasnt quite stopped when i initiated the slow snipe. never seen the cooldown consumed, that means you casted it.
lemming Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 Ok, here's another data point. [20:19] You start Sniper Blast. [20:19] You activated the Sniper Blast power. [20:19] HIT Infantry! Your Sniper Blast power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 55.97. [20:19] You hit Infantry with your Apocalypse: Chance for Negative Energy Damage for 107.08 points of Negative Energy damage. The main damage did not take effect, but the proc from Apocalypse happened. Though with this, we got the HIT dialogue. So not sure if this is the exact same bug, but my theory is if the proc didn't happen, we would not have gotten the HIT and agro.
tidge Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 This lack-of-damage (on a successful toHot roll) has been observed (and reported) for a long time. It has been most noticeable for me on Scrappers/Stalker Epic Snipes, as the Snipe is very different than most of the other attacks which allows the results to stand out. I have observed it recently on a Corruptor who has the Snipe as a regular part of the usual attack chain. I want to say: the issue was present prior to the Homecoming changes that included shortening the Range of the Fast Snipe. The base damage of Snipea is variable (different values Fast or Slow, Fast damage includes the first 22% of+ToHit); I have come to assume/guess that there is a slight issue in one of the math routines that results in a NaN and/or has some sort of error-trap fall-thru. I have also seen the hit registered (in the combat log) with no damage. And sometimes no damage from the snipe and some damage from a %proc.
SuggestorK Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 Yeah as tidge said its a very long standing bug back from Live, think its a miscommunication between client and server, since its happens way fewer on HC then it did back on Live. Former Player on Server: Protector, Guardian, Virtue, Liberty, Freedom, Union and Defiant (Hero Side) and part Time Infinity Justice, Pinnacle, Victory (Villain Side) Currently Reunion is the Main Server
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