Regarding: Radio Silence

[FDR's Think Tank]

The solution to this is simple: Anytime a dev reads a post in the forum, the post gets an automatic "Eyeball" reaction emoji, meaning they saw it, they read it.

 

As to their opinion on it, who knows, but the validation of being seen will slowly sooth the worries that people have about speaking into the void.

 

I love it when devs interact, but I have seen how that goes in games enough to know it's generally not good. There are a million ways it can go wrong and just because someone knows how to develop a game doesn't mean they should be in a PR position. Ideally, there would be one "Dev" account that was in charge of reading ideas on the forums and collating them into a master list that devs can reference, if they wish. Again, this account doesn't have to respond, engage in chatter, or do anything other than "Look". But this "Dev" who is really more of a forum mod... could focus on merging duplicate topics on ideas that have already been posted too.

 

On a side note, I have noticed that the search function for the forum is a bit weak. It tends to bring up many unrelated items rather than keeping my search terms all in mind for the top results. It's gonna get worse as time goes on. This makes it MUCH harder for Devs to keep track of suggestions that they actually are interested in as well.

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

3 hours ago, FDR's Think Tank said:

Anytime a dev reads a post in the forum, the post gets an automatic "Eyeball"

 

 

PS.  Did everyone see the new patch notes here:  

 

Edited September 18 by GM_GooglyMoogly

[Captain Fabulous]

Once again I feel I need to remind people that allowing us to engage with them and give them feedback is a privilege, not a right. The dev team is under no obligation to do so. And the more and more this privilege is abused, the more and more likely it's going to at some point be heavily curtailed or even rescinded entirely. And then y'all will really be screaming into the void with not a single soul listening.

Just keep this in mind the next time you're about to say something dickish in response to new content.

[Seed22]

On 9/17/2024 at 9:23 PM, Captain Fabulous said:

And then y'all will really be screaming into the void with not a single soul listening.

No I won’t. My time is also a privilege. If they decide to rescind theirs I rescind mine. You act like Xbox and PS5 aren’t popping off with games and top tier gaming PC’s aren’t becoming more common/Steam Deck isn’t popping off with its’ expansive and frankly amazing library.

 

They don’t owe me anything but I sure as SHIT don’t owe them. Too many better options and too little time to be going back n forth or screaming into a void.

Edited September 19 by Seed22

[Captain Fabulous]

12 minutes ago, Seed22 said:

No I won’t. My time is also a privilege. If they decide to rescind theirs I rescind mine. You act like Xbox and PS5 aren’t popping off with games and top tier gaming PC’s aren’t becoming more common/Steam Deck isn’t popping off with its’ expansive and frankly amazing library.

 

They don’t owe me anything but I sure as SHIT don’t owe them. Too many better options and too little time to be going back n forth or screaming into a void.

Can I haz ur stuff?

[Seed22]

18 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said:

Can I haz ur stuff?

Never! 😮

 

I think a lot of people forget about what I said. They don’t owe you, very true. But you absolutely don’t owe them anything. 
 

If they don’t want to be transparent, absolutely their right to do so, but if that’s what I need in a game dev group, then I also reserve the right to just dip. 
 

Also, I would never make a long winded goodbye post fab 😛 or a goodbye post at all, I’d just pull what I did with CO and dip quietly. Those long winded goodbyes are for community leaders(as it should be. Them leaving is heavily impactful to the game overall) 

[PeregrineFalcon]

1 hour ago, Captain Fabulous said:

Can I haz ur stuff?

And this is exactly why I don't beta test or provide feedback in the feedback threads anymore. Because the attitude of the community (and of the devs apparently as well) is "We don't care. Dev time is important and yours isn't because you're not a dev, you're just peasant."

[Glacier Peak]

4 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

community

Conflating one user's post to represent an entire group of individuals?

 

4 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

"We don't care. Dev time is important and yours isn't because you're not a dev, you're just peasant."

"Hey I can make up stuff too and put quotes around it to imply it was said by someone."

Edited September 19 by Glacier Peak
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[PeregrineFalcon]

50 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

Conflating one user's post to represent an entire group of individuals?

Using it as an example of the thousands of posts I've seen from the community on the Homecoming forums over the years.

 

I'm sorry if my putting a generalized statement in quotes scares you. In the future I'll try to be more clear that I was actually paraphrasing.

[Glacier Peak]

41 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

Using it as an example of the thousands of posts I've seen from the community on the Homecoming forums over the years.

 

I'm sorry if my putting a generalized statement in quotes scares you. In the future I'll try to be more clear that I was actually paraphrasing.

Now exaggeration? Just say what you mean. You've written plainly in the past and I've agreed and disagreed with those posts plenty. Sometimes I'll just post links to threads because I'm too lazy or it takes too much effort when I'm on a mobile device. 

[lemming]

2 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

Using it as an example of the thousands of posts I've seen from the community on the Homecoming forums over the years.

I think the "Can I haz your stuff" type posts are tongue in cheek for the most part.  It's almost required to be said when someone says they are leaving.

 

I mentioned in another thread (that for a sec, thought was this one) about some of the testing stuff.   The closed beta people don't have a monolithic outlook and it's a bummer we lost a couple people since IMO, more testing always needed.

[Seed22]

5 minutes ago, lemming said:

It's almost required to be said when someone says they are leaving.

Thing is I never said I was leaving, I said CoH isn’t my only game and I have options, which I guess they take to mean I’m leaving. 
 

Crazy how having options and not being ingratiated to a volunteer team means you’re quitting. 
 

I’d never announce me leaving, I just leave. Never liked the song and dance of making a post and making a scene over a departure. 
 

Being honest, I think a good deal of people here either only play CoH or play it as their main game which, I mean, great! Good for you! 
 

They’ll see a post like mine and take offense because maybe they view it as me attacking HC who gave them their favorite/only game back, and thats honestly not my intent.

 

I just speak candidly about the team and CoH itself, I try and even mix in praises if its due, as is the case w/Marine Affinity. And my criticisms aren’t nearly as harsh as they have been in the past. 

Edited September 20 by Seed22

[Glacier Peak]

31 minutes ago, lemming said:

The closed beta people don't have a monolithic outlook and it's a bummer we lost a couple people since IMO, more testing always needed.

Exactly. I was just saying in another place that it's at the point where changes are going straight to live shards for testing because there aren't enough players through the current means.

[PeregrineFalcon]

2 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

Exactly. I was just saying in another place that it's at the point where changes are going straight to live shards for testing because there aren't enough players through the current means.

Well, if they need more people in closed beta then maybe they could let more people into closed beta.

 

Oh, wait. They recently announced that they're no longer allowing people to join closed beta. Whoops!

[Bionic_Flea]

13 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

"We don't care. Dev time is important and yours isn't because you're not a dev, you're just peasant."

 

That's not fair at all.  Not only is it not a quote, it's not a paraphrase of anything either.  If I'm wrong, please show me where any Dev or GM said something like that.  As an attorney, I would think that you would know better than make up quotes.

[PeregrineFalcon]

2 hours ago, Bionic_Flea said:

That's not fair at all.  Not only is it not a quote, it's not a paraphrase of anything either.  If I'm wrong, please show me where any Dev or GM said something like that.  As an attorney, I would think that you would know better than make up quotes.

I already said that I was paraphrasing, that I was talking about the attitude not an exact quote.

 

Yes, using quotes was a mistake.

[Seed22]

9 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

Well, if they need more people in closed beta then maybe they could let more people into closed beta.

 

Oh, wait. They recently announced that they're no longer allowing people to join closed beta. Whoops!

They closed access down temporarily as leaks were getting out. On one hand I do want more testers in but on the other hand I don’t think a lot of people would test so much as leak potential changes and complain about ones being proposed without testing.

 

I see this happen a LOT in CB

Edited September 20 by Seed22

[PeregrineFalcon]

1 minute ago, Seed22 said:

They closed access down temporarily as leaks were getting out. On one hand I do want more testers in but on the other hand I don’t think a lot of you would test so much as leak potential changes and complain about ones being proposed without testing.

 

I see this happen a LOT in CB

Maybe they should consider inviting people to closed beta who have shown in the past that we actually do test and post results of our testing.

 

Of course the problem with that is that many of us aren't in the DDL and so we'll never be invited to closed beta. So yeah, it's quite the dilemma.

[Bionic_Flea]

1 hour ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

I already said that I was paraphrasing

 

4 hours ago, Bionic_Flea said:

it's not a paraphrase of anything either.

 

Now, maybe PLAYERS have given you that impression.  But you probably think that those players are secret devs.  You seem to enjoy that conspiracy theory.  😜

[PeregrineFalcon]

50 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

Now, maybe PLAYERS have given you that impression.  But you probably think that those players are secret devs.  You seem to enjoy that conspiracy theory.  😜

I specifically said the community, so thank you for confirming that you actually understood at least part of what I wrote. However, you're no longer objecting to what I said, you're now objecting to whatever story you've made up in your own head.

 

Also, it's a known fact that both the mods and the devs have normal forum accounts. Call it a conspiracy theory to discredit me all you want, but a moderator even admitted that was true.

 

In any case I'm done responding to you on this. You win. Now you can ride your white horse back and tell the devs that you've done your duty.

[Bionic_Flea]

20 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

I specifically said the community,

 

19 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

Because the attitude of the community (and of the devs apparently as well)

 

20 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

Now you can ride your white horse back and tell the devs that you've done your duty.

 

Yay!

 

[Troo]

26 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

 

that's a lone ranger not a white knght.. cOM3 oN!

[Bionic_Flea]

 

2 minutes ago, Troo said:

that's a lone ranger not a white knght.. cOM3 oN!

 

Nothing about a knight mentioned, just a white horse.

 

55 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

Now you can ride your white horse back

 

[shortguy on indom]

• IN WW2 WAR MOVIES... SIGNAL LIGHTS (MORSE CODE) WERE USED TO MAINTAIN "RADIO SILENCE."
• DO NOT BREAK COVER.

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

On 9/20/2024 at 1:15 AM, PeregrineFalcon said:

Well, if they need more people in closed beta then maybe they could let more people into closed beta.