Digirium Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 It happened yesterday on a Synapse TF one player quit didn't say anything. The team noticed and a mission or two later someone said something about it, then the team collectively shrugged and kept moving along to the end. All this whining is a waste of time nobody should get a penalty focus on what you got and keep going. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twozerofoxtrot Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 The difference between an 8 player and 7 player TF is marginal. Have we forgotten people can literally just alt to an infinite number of free accounts to play something else if there even were a penalty? This whole thread seems like a rage at the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Monkey Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Everyone's focusing on the penalty part of the OP. But in reality that's already covered. If you leave before the missions over, you don't get the mission completion bonus. However, I do agree with the sentiment of the OP in that you should say something before dropping. Just to be polite. Furthermore, say hello when joining a team. And while you're at it maybe try making at least other socially acceptable comment in each mission. Then respond to 2 other peoples' comments with an "LoL" or a "good one." Look at you now. You're already interacting with people who share a common interest. You keep this up and before you know it, you might find yourself with some decent friends. 1 4 Active on Excelsior: Prismatic Monkey - Seismic / Martial Blaster, Shadow Dragon Monkey - Staff / Dark Brute, Murder Robot Monkey - Arachnos Night Widow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiko-chan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Friends?! Ew, gross! Get 'em off, get 'em off! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Shred Monkey said: you should say something before dropping. "Hey, just wanted to let you know I'm going to lose connection in 92 seconds. Circle up, let's sing Kumbaya and have a group hug before I disappear." 2 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblade Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, Shred Monkey said: Then respond to 2 other peoples' comments with an "LoL" or a "good one." LOL. Good one. 🙂 1 Originally on Infinity. I have Ironblade on every shard. - My only AE arc: The Origin of Mark IV (ID 48002) Link to the story of Toggle Man, since I keep having to track down my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, Luminara said: "Hey, just wanted to let you know I'm going to lose connection in 92 seconds. Circle up, let's sing Kumbaya and have a group hug before I disappear." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excraft Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 5/11/2024 at 12:40 AM, Living Brain 3000 said: unpopular opinion there needs to be a leaver penalty for people dropping in and out of leagues/teams. No, we don't. You'd be penalizing players for not sticking with a poorly run team. Just the other day, I joined a Posi 1 TF that was advertised as a speed run. The team organizer - who was only level 8 - refused to pass the star over to someone higher level, then decided to set the difficulty to +4 and refused to lower it. Several people quit the TF as it wasn't what was advertised. Your proposal would penalize them for that. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Excraft said: No, we don't. You'd be penalizing players for not sticking with a poorly run team. Just the other day, I joined a Posi 1 TF that was advertised as a speed run. The team organizer - who was only level 8 - refused to pass the star over to someone higher level, then decided to set the difficulty to +4 and refused to lower it. Several people quit the TF as it wasn't what was advertised. Your proposal would penalize them for that. That sounds like all kinds of nightmare. I feel like I can easily adapt whenever a PUGorganizer advertises speed/non-speed, but the one common advertisement that always confuses me is "Kill Most". I've been on many "KM TF" that we didn't even fight half the critters on any given map. I'd like to point to the spot on the TF doll where the leader threatened to kick me for drawing more aggro that we were otherwise ignoring. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neshoba Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Wow...we were all being total dicks to that guy and he quit... let's punish him for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I had some time to think about this and came to a conclusion. Can punishment be a two way street? voting to kick for example A leader afking or not being a good leader Someone with too much knockback/repel Someone using fold space/wormhole poorly And when kicked it applies all the punishment ideas the OP had in place. its only fair to give power to all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azari Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Ridiculous. Just accept the fact that in online games, people will sometimes have to drop. Edited May 25 by Azari 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchantica Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 5/11/2024 at 5:21 AM, PhotriusPyrelus said: No thanks. Go back to WoW. If you have such a hard-on for punishing people for perceived slights, then *you* "punish" them by never grouping with them again. Frankly, I would consider such punishment a blessing. You said it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchantica Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 5/12/2024 at 1:41 PM, BlackSpectre said: The best advice I can give is be completely upfront about how long it will take to complete the task force/trial when you are recruiting. Also let them know that without them the entire team will not be able to complete the task force/trial so you're depending on them to stay. Veterans know how long they take, but newbies don't. Perfect advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinesun Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) On 5/25/2024 at 6:28 AM, kelika2 said: I had some time to think about this and came to a conclusion. Can punishment be a two way street? voting to kick for example A leader afking or not being a good leader Someone with too much knockback/repel Someone using fold space/wormhole poorly And when kicked it applies all the punishment ideas the OP had in place. its only fair to give power to all This vote kick system has been often abused in other games, especially by infantile, immature people. It just leads to more issues. As said before, if you or someone else thinks that either the leader, or an individual on a team is bad, simply global ignore them. Over the years this helps to self marginalize people who are prone to causing trouble. A counter then may be by some that their ignore list will become too big. To that I'd say, then likely the problem isnt with those overall being ignored (especially with this small community) but with the person doing the ignoring who may be exemplifying misanthropic tendencies. Edited May 26 by Sanguinesun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 21 minutes ago, Sanguinesun said: This vote kick system has been often abused in other games, especially by infantile, immature people. It just leads to more issues. As said before, if you or someone else thinks that either the leader, or an individual on a team is bad, simply global ignore them. Over the years this helps to self marginalize people who are prone to causing trouble. A counter then may be by some that their ignore list will become too big. To that I'd say, then likely the problem isnt with those overall being ignored (especially with this small community) but with the person doing the ignoring who may be exemplifying misanthropic tendencies. No, now I want power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 The more I think about this, the more I realize it's dumb. We really want the game to enforce penalties on player actions? Not abusive players, just ones that annoy us? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 43 minutes ago, Haijinx said: The more I think about this, the more I realize it's dumb. We really want the game to enforce penalties on player actions? Not abusive players, just ones that annoy us? Fear the ones that blend in with the light. Common red flags that do not appear as red flags: "Community" "Dev time/volunteer time" "Think about others" (used for everything) "1000 character slots just be yourself" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Shocker Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 It's sad that this thread is still going There's a fine line between a numerator and a denominator but only a fraction of people understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 hours ago, Scarlet Shocker said: It's sad that this thread is still going I think there should be a penalty for anyone continuing this thread………..errr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejlertson Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) On 5/16/2024 at 1:14 PM, Digirium said: It happened yesterday on a Synapse TF one player quit didn't say anything. The team noticed and a mission or two later someone said something about it, then the team collectively shrugged and kept moving along to the end. All this whining is a waste of time nobody should get a penalty focus on what you got and keep going. That was very likely me. Router went kapow. Edited May 26 by Ejlertson Before you post or reply to anything online allways remember Wheaton´s Law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 9 hours ago, kelika2 said: Fear the ones that blend in with the light. Common red flags that do not appear as red flags: "Community" "Dev time/volunteer time" "Think about others" (used for everything) "1000 character slots just be yourself" Huh? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 20 hours ago, Haijinx said: Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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