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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:25 PM, TWSLives said:

So, it appears that Rebirth will have an RGB colour palette for costume customisation.  I think such a thing would be very welcome here.

 

Full Spectrum Costuming coming to City of Heroes Rebirth, Issue 7: The Coming Storm

 

 

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ehhh..... meh.  i have trained in art.  painting and such.  don't worry, i suck and do not inflict my "projects" on the masses.  this is nice... but.... meh.  the actual differences will be minimal.  if we were using a 8 color box of crayons and moving to an "infinite" box, that would be something.  but we are using closer to a 64 or larger.  and the more you have the less difference iy makes.

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I saw that on FB.

Interesting

 

I think yes for those players who want that amount of specificity and detail for their costumes.

 

No, if it is work that puts other things on the sideline.

 

Long-term... sure.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:21 PM, JasperStone said:

I think yes for those players who want that amount of specificity and detail for their costumes.

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I think it very safe to say there are a ton of players who want that amount of specificity and detail for their costumes.

 

  On 1/9/2025 at 7:21 PM, JasperStone said:

No, if it is work that puts other things on the sideline.

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It's not up to us to judge what is or isn't on the "to do" list. 

 

Wholeheartedly support any updates and additions to the costume editor, along with other QoL improvements.  Personally, I think there is already plenty of story content and plenty of powersets to play around with.  It would be nice to get an update or two that focused on QoL improvements.

 

Rebirth has some very cool stuff.  All of the other servers do.  I highly recommend everyone to give them all a try.   Some of the costume updates other servers have done put Homecoming to shame.

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My 2 cents:

  1. This would help with muted and neutral colors, which aren't very well represented in the default color palette. I've always felt a bit limited with my options for brown, for example.
  2. I think it was an intentional design choice that you can't pick flesh tones for, say, tights. What changes, if anything, if that's possible?
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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:53 PM, Excraft said:

It's not up to us to judge what is or isn't on the "to do" list. 

 

Wholeheartedly support any updates and additions to the costume editor, along with other QoL improvements.  Personally, I think there is already plenty of story content and plenty of powersets to play around with.  It would be nice to get an update or two that focused on QoL improvements.

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Yeah this.  Toss ideas onto the pile, it's up to HC to sort out what they want to work on.

 

I'd like to see this, there's quite a lot of colors that can't be represented with the simple choices we have.  Otoh it's not a huge priority either for me personally.  I'd like it if it shows up, if not other stuff is cool too.

 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:00 PM, Glacier Peak said:

Costume jank is my least favorite part about how other servers have made things possible. Homecoming has made plenty of quality costume additions that aren't jank.

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There are quite a lot of costume additions and changes on other servers that aren't "jank", so attempting to paint every costume addition on other servers that way is disingenuous.  Let's be honest and admit that not everything done here is perfect either. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:23 PM, Excraft said:

There are quite a lot of costume additions and changes on other servers that aren't "jank", so attempting to paint every costume addition on other servers that way is disingenuous.  Let's be honest and admit that not everything done here is perfect either. 

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Sure, go for it.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:00 PM, Glacier Peak said:

Costume jank is my least favorite part about how other servers have made things possible. Homecoming has made plenty of quality costume additions that aren't jank.

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Yeah there's no costume pieces and such here that have clipping issues or other such "jank" whatsoever .... right.  lol 🤣  There's some very cool and quite extensive quality costume additions and improvements on other servers.  I know it's tempting to try and crap all over anything that isn't HC for some people, but painting all the work other servers have done on the costume editor as "jank" is intentionally misleading.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:00 PM, Glacier Peak said:

Costume jank is my least favorite part about how other servers have made things possible.

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Given the costume files save colors in RGB values, they already have access to all the colors. Any potential jank would likely be with UI implementation and removing/suspending any backend safeguards that normally prevent you from deviating from the standard swatch options.

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I'm in the "absolutely no rush" camp.

 

There have been plenty of times where I felt I couldn't match colors exactly as I wanted (mostly on costumes, occasionally on powers) but more common than that bummer is that the art asset I want to use doesn't allow changing the color of the specific part I *want* to change. Again, no big deal for me.

 

If I had to identify the most common issue I have with the Homecoming (and previously, Live) color palette: For colors of skin that no earth humans naturally have, the same shading pretty much never exists in the non-skin elements of the costume creator. Some are close, but usually it is easy to see where "skin" is used and "costume" is used.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:54 PM, ZacKing said:

Yeah there's no costume pieces and such here that have clipping issues or other such "jank" whatsoever .... right.  lol 🤣  There's some very cool and quite extensive quality costume additions and improvements on other servers.  I know it's tempting to try and crap all over anything that isn't HC for some people, but painting all the work other servers have done on the costume editor as "jank" is intentionally misleading.

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I haven't seen any costume pieces that Homecoming created that are janky. 

 

Edit: Here are all the new costume pieces that Homecoming has added over the past few Page and Issue releases. I don't consider any of these janky.

 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:02 PM, Enamel_32 said:

I think it was an intentional design choice that you can't pick flesh tones for, say, tights. What changes, if anything, if that's possible?

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Are you that new to the internet that you don't know why?

 

It would be cool, and like pointed out, it stores in the RGB values already.   Is it worth it?  For probably quite a few, yes.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 9:29 PM, lemming said:

Are you that new to the internet that you don't know why?

 

It would be cool, and like pointed out, it stores in the RGB values already.   Is it worth it?  For probably quite a few, yes.

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I meant that question more in legal/ncsoft agreement terms, not so much the costumes coming out of such a change. Back in the day it was probably relevant for things like the ESRB rating.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:53 PM, Excraft said:

It's not up to us to judge what is or isn't on the "to do" list. 

 

Wholeheartedly support any updates and additions to the costume editor, along with other QoL improvements.  Personally, I think there is already plenty of story content and plenty of powersets to play around with.  It would be nice to get an update or two that focused on QoL improvements.

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No judging here, just sharing an opinion....which is what the forums are for.

 

And ...

You missed that I did support it.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 9:13 PM, Glacier Peak said:

I haven't seen any costume pieces that Homecoming created that are janky. 

 

Edit: Here are all the new costume pieces that Homecoming has added over the past few Page and Issue releases. I don't consider any of these janky.

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That's great that you took the time to compile a list.  It still doesn't change the fact that there are many costume pieces here, regardless of whether HC made them or not, that have clipping issues and other "jank".  I think you know that, but just don't want to admit it.  Like I said, I know its tempting for some to crap on anything not HC, but to try and paint everything other servers do as crap or "jank" is being disingenuous, and I think you know that too.  I don't see anything "janky" in the video clip posted above.  It looks nicely done and well implemented to me. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 10:36 PM, Glacier Peak said:

Thank you. It is a great list and shows exactly why I commented that Homecoming has made non-janky costume pieces. 

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it took me three seconds to prove you wrong

 

(not that i have an issue with the jank needed to make the cool beret work)

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  On 1/9/2025 at 10:36 PM, Glacier Peak said:

Thank you. It is a great list and shows exactly why I commented that Homecoming has made non-janky costume pieces. 

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Are you completely sure about that?  😉

 

Super Atom beat me to it. 🤣

 

Anyway, yes, HC has made some nice pieces.  So have other servers and trying to paint everything here as "perfect" or "not jank" and everything every other server does as crap is disingenuous.  But like I said, I think you know that already, you just don't want to admit it. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 9:40 PM, JasperStone said:

No judging here, just sharing an opinion....which is what the forums are for.

 

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You missed that I did support it.

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Never said you couldn't share an opinion and no, I didn't miss that you supported the idea.

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