Legendary 45% softcap... True/False/Sometimes/BS?

[arcane]

6 minutes ago, Championess said:

 

Hmm I've linked you sub 50s pylon builds to show I know a little bit about building in offense on a dom.  Dont see u posted. I even offered to race your defenseless dommie in real game content but its crickets.

 

Someone lacks courage of which they speak and I'm not sure its me.  

 

You like to chatter so I'll leave you to it.  Anytime you wanna setup a playdate hit me up.

 

 

Radios do not address my point. A build screenshot would address my point. This is like telling me to do a pylon test to prove that my character is survivable. It doesn’t comport with reason. If you refuse to provide evidence, you are kinda just admitting to me that you are full of shit. The stubborn, disingenuous, and completely illogical  gaslighting is really unfortunate. Didn’t know Mez was like that tbh.

 

I think you and I both know that you won’t provide a screenshot because the build you’ve described does not and cannot exist.

Edited 21 hours ago by arcane

[Maelwys]

32 minutes ago, Championess said:

That was a quickie I threw together to show others surely doms can get sub 50s pylons.  Its a show pony build JUST for pylons as stated here and in that thread. 

Sure.

And whilst it's decent at the job it's intended for; after viewing the actual build we can confirm its current raw stats and uncover some minor room for improvement.
  

32 minutes ago, Championess said:

Less typing, more reading.

Less boasting, more build file sharing.
Please.

Note that sharing a toon's build is not the same as watching you race it through a mission. The latter might demonstrate how a toon potentially performs in practice; but it doesn't reveal what raw stats and slotting it has or show whether there is no longer any additional room for improvement via enhancement tweaks (things like player skill, map memorization and specific enemy matchups are variables which differ from person to person and encounter to encounter. Not so with build stats. A lot of us actually enjoy creating/improving/endlessly poking at builds more than we enjoy actually playing the game!)
 

Edited 21 hours ago by Maelwys

[arcane]

I mean I understand the point of demanding a +4x8 radio race instead of providing a screenshot.
 

A screenshot would immediately tell us if Mez is being truthful or not.

 

In a +4x8 radio race, Mez is banking on his higher defenses actually saving him more time than the time the corresponding offense loss in his build costs him. And he might be right - too bad that has nothing to do with his claim. He’s hoping that he can take the optics of winning a race in something that isn’t designed to test raw offensive capability and then claim he was right all along even though he hasn’t proven the actual claim he made. It’s cynical but it makes sense.

Edited 21 hours ago by arcane

[Championess]

4 minutes ago, Maelwys said:

Sure.

And whilst it's decent at the job it's intended for; after viewing the actual build we can confirm its current raw stats and uncover some minor some room for improvement.
  

Less boasting, more build file sharing.
Please.

Note that sharing a toon's build is not the same as watching you race it through a mission. The latter might demonstrate how a toon potentially performs in practice; but it doesn't reveal what raw stats and slotting it has or show whether there is no longer any additional room for improvement via enhancement tweaks (things like player skill, map memorization and specific enemy matchups are variables which differ from person to person and encounter to encounter. Not so with build stats. A lot of us actually enjoy creating/improving/endlessly poking at builds more than we enjoy actually playing the game!)
 

 

Oh I never said it couldn't be improved upon.  Which is kind of the whole point of this thread.  I wasn't boasting.  People were asking for some credentials so they were given yet I dont see anyone elses...

 

There's big differences in how you can play this game which is what I said in this topic and that "pure offense" thread for that quickie ST dps build I threw together to inspire naysayers.

 

Point is for the entirety of the game you're limiting all that you can be by not building for defenses where its no real sacrifice to do so.  Or you can build to punch pylons and even con enemies.  Lots of ways to go about things here I think thats the draw to the game.

[Maelwys]

37 minutes ago, Latex said:

All my chars have softcap on one or two positonal DEF's, had far more mileage with Ranged DEF, even as non-hover Blasters who prefer being in the thick of it.

People saying 'wait for the Scrapper or Tank to get aggro'
I prefer to nuke a cluster of 16 mobs as a Blaster before anyone gets aggro and often times to survive the 'Alpha Strike' my DEF is the first layer of... defense.

Nothing worse in this game than being a Blaster and your nuke hitting nothing because someone killed the mobs before you. 'I hit my nuke, where big numbers... oh...' I hate it, so I build to survive and build for Rech to do it every other mob pack.

This is exactly the sort of post that makes complete sense to me - someone has made a conscious decision to prioritize Defense in their build over maximum Damage.
Whilst the Blaster in question probably still has a decent amount of damage; they won't be cranking it up to 11..
Because everything has a trade-off.

A different take on it would be my Fire Blaster; who completely ignores both defense and debt and very much enjoys using Inferno on one mob and Rise of the Phoenix on the next one. AoE damage prioritised; mitigation (other than the sustain from their Secondary and the occasional usage of Clarion Destiny) pretty much ignored.
My Archery/TA Blaster also has softcapped Ranged Defense + their Damage output is very good; just not as high as it would have been if I'd completely focused on it.

[Snarky]

21 minutes ago, Maelwys said:

This is exactly the sort of post that makes complete sense to me - someone has made a conscious decision to prioritize Defense in their build over maximum Damage.
Whilst the Blaster in question probably still has a decent amount of damage; they won't be cranking it up to 11..
Because everything has a trade-off.

A different take on it would be my Fire Blaster; who completely ignores both defense and debt and very much enjoys using Inferno on one mob and Rise of the Phoenix on the next one. AoE damage prioritised; mitigation (other than the sustain from their Secondary and the occasional usage of Clarion Destiny) pretty much ignored.
My Archery/TA Blaster also has softcapped Ranged Defense + their Damage output is very good; just not as high as it would have been if I'd completely focused on it.

My Fire Blaster is the same.  I cannonball rooms with 3 separate large groups at 4/8.  surprisingly enough many times i live!  when i don't.... boom! i'm back baby!  the damage is just glorious...

[Maelwys]

  

38 minutes ago, Championess said:

 I wasn't boasting.  People were asking for some credentials so they were given yet I dont see anyone elses...

Hi! I'm Troy Mc @Maelwys. 

You may not remember me as the creator of the first truly-self-sustaining Spines/DA Scrapper; as a member of the first successful Master of Statesman's Taskforce run on a UK Server (shout out to NineClaws!); or as the winner of Worst CoH Santa Costume 2006.



Happier now?

My builds are posted all over the place. Pick any subforum + chances are that I've posted a build somewhere in the first page of threads.
_{(Especially the farming threads recently for some reason. Srsly if I have to explain the difference between an "Active" farming build and an "AFK" farming in single syllable words one more time... rassin' frassin'...)}

You want one of my Softcapped Defense builds? Sure. here: Blaster - Archery - Tactical Arrow.mbd
Want another? here: Arachnos Bane Spider.mbd 
Want more?
Brute - Battle Axe - Fiery Aura (+Recovery).mbd
Controller - Illusion - Time (PwrBoost).mbd
Scrapper - Kat_Regen IOed.mbd

Sentinel - Beam Rifle - Ninjitsu (Weave).mbd
Tanker (Bio Armor - Staff) (CT + Taunt + SS).mbd

Just say "when".

Have a few "softcapped pet" ones too whilst you're at it:
Arachnos Crab Spider (Soul).mbd
Mastermind - Robotics - Kinetics (Bonfire).mbd

I got hundreds of these things.
 

38 minutes ago, Championess said:

Point is for the entirety of the game you're limiting all that you can be by not building for defenses where its no real sacrifice to do so. 

I've highlighted the relevant bit.
Again you're claiming that you can build for Defense without sacrifice.
None of us have seen any evidence of this; and our personal experience is to the contrary.

The burden of proof to show otherwise and back up your outlandish claims lies on you.
 

Edited 20 hours ago by Maelwys

[Championess]

1 minute ago, Maelwys said:

  

Hi! I'm Troy Mc @Maelwys. 

You may not remember me as the creator of the first truly-self-sustaining Spines/DA Scrapper; as a member of the first successful Master of Statesman's Taskforce run on a UK Server (shout out to NineClaws!); or as the winner of Worst CoH Santa Costume 2006.



Happier now?

My builds are posted all over the place. Pick any subforum + chances are that I've posted a build somewhere in the first page of threads.
_{(Especially the farming threads recently for some reason. Srsly if I have to explain the difference between an "Active" farming build and an "AFK" farming in single syllable words one more time... rassin' frassin'...)}

You want one of my Softcapped Defense builds? Sure. here: Blaster - Archery - Tactical Arrow.mbd
Want another? here: Arachnos Bane Spider.mbd 
Want more?
Brute - Battle Axe - Fiery Aura (+Recovery).mbd
Controller - Illusion - Time (PwrBoost).mbd
Scrapper - Kat_Regen IOed.mbd

 Sentinel - Beam Rifle - Ninjitsu (Weave).mbd
Tanker (Bio Armor - Staff) (CT + Taunt + SS).mbd

Just say "when".

Have a few "softcaped pet" ones too whilst you're at it:
Arachnos Crab Spider (Soul).mbd
Mastermind - Robotics - Kinetics (Bonfire).mbd

I got hundreds of these things.
 

I've highlighted the relevant bit.
Again you're claiming that you can build for Defense without sacrifice.
None of us have seen any evidence of this; and our personal experience is to the contrary.

The burden of proof to show otherwise and back up your outlandish claims lies on you.
 

 

Yes.  I can see why you won kudos to the judges 😜

[Maelwys]

Just now, Championess said:

 

Yes.  I can see why you won kudos to the judges 😜

I think one of them is still in rehab.