WM/Energy powers to skip when making my build.

MunkiLord · July 5, 2019

My newest Scrapper is a War Mace/Energy Aura and I'm wondering which powers should be skipped. Right now I'm thinking I'll be skipping Bash and Confront from War Mace and Overload in Energy Aura and taking the rest. Any other powers yall deem skippable?

Also I'm looking at Mace Beam from the patron powers, and it appears to be extremely powerful, especially if insta snipe active. Am I missing something here or it awesome?

Gone · July 5, 2019

Endgame, you should be able to come up with enough endurance fixing that you don't need Energy Drain at all if you're looking for powers to dump, otherwise you can just keep it and minimally slot it. Leveling up, you probably want to keep it. Overload as you've already assessed isn't necessary. Bash and Confront or Pulverize and Confront would be the picks for skipping from the primary, so you're good there. I think you've already answered your own question well enough!

Rockfall · July 5, 2019

Depending on your slotting priorities and/or your faith in FF:+recharge procs you may find you have attacks you don't need. In specific, jawbreaker or pulverize may not be needed along side clobber/shatter. If that works out though, you can't pass on pulverize, so you'd have to pass on jawbreaker.

MunkiLord · July 5, 2019

Depending on your slotting priorities and/or your faith in FF:+recharge procs you may find you have attacks you don't need. In specific, jawbreaker or pulverize may not be needed along side clobber/shatter. If that works out though, you can't pass on pulverize, so you'd have to pass on jawbreaker.

According to Kaeladin's DPS sheet, the ideal ST chain is Clobber-Shatter-Jawbreaker-repeat, so I won't be skipping that one. It appears WM has a decent amount of powers for me to take, but that's ok. The only thing I may have trouble fitting in and slotting is Maneuvers. I'll have an initial build sometime in the next day or two, so I'll see then.

What are people's opinions on skipping Energy Cloak? It has good defense numbers, but I strongly dislike the look of always being cloaked, so I'm thinking of not taking it when I respec.

Gone · July 7, 2019

Depending on your slotting priorities and/or your faith in FF:+recharge procs you may find you have attacks you don't need. In specific, jawbreaker or pulverize may not be needed along side clobber/shatter. If that works out though, you can't pass on pulverize, so you'd have to pass on jawbreaker.

According to Kaeladin's DPS sheet, the ideal ST chain is Clobber-Shatter-Jawbreaker-repeat, so I won't be skipping that one. It appears WM has a decent amount of powers for me to take, but that's ok. The only thing I may have trouble fitting in and slotting is Maneuvers. I'll have an initial build sometime in the next day or two, so I'll see then.

What are people's opinions on skipping Energy Cloak? It has good defense numbers, but I strongly dislike the look of always being cloaked, so I'm thinking of not taking it when I respec.

Energy Cloak is an essential power from the powerset. If you don't plan to take it, I suggest rerolling a different powerset instead, that you like the essential powers from. Yes, you can make it work without Energy Cloak (you can make anything work in this game if you want, with enough money and creative building skill really), but 6% all defense is not easy or cheap to come up with and will save a lot of space either in sets or pool powers you'd have to take to make it up. It would be very inefficient to skip it. So, yes, you can skip it, but no, I don't think you should. There are other defense based powersets that won't stealth your character.

MunkiLord · July 7, 2019

That's what I was afraid of. It's purely about aesthetics on that power, which normally doesn't matter much to me. I'll see if I can get over it. If not I'll just reroll. Maybe as Bio or Invul since I've never made one of those.

Gobbledygook · July 7, 2019

That's what I was afraid of. It's purely about aesthetics on that power, which normally doesn't matter much to me. I'll see if I can get over it. If not I'll just reroll. Maybe as Bio or Invul since I've never made one of those.

I've been thinking Wm/Inv myself for awhile, even been playing around in Pines for the last cpl of days. Looks, interesting.

yeetsman · July 7, 2019

Def everything cept god mode from nrg,, wm probs all except1st attack and taunt... get fighting tough weave and hasten + some rech and def ios and ur set

Qoseph · October 21, 2019

can u post the build so we can see it?

MunkiLord · October 22, 2019

I stalled in the low 40s and never really came up with a finished build that I recall. I'll look in my folder when I get home, but I don't think I have one.

Murcielago · October 23, 2019

This going to be so strong and so pretty!

MunkiLord · October 23, 2019

I actually ended up getting a WM/WP to 50 and built up and it's awesome.

Murcielago · October 24, 2019

That's not pretty

MunkiLord · October 24, 2019

This is true, but it is super easy mode.

JasonZZ · October 24, 2019

On 7/7/2019 at 12:20 PM, MunkiLord said:

That's what I was afraid of. It's purely about aesthetics on that power, which normally doesn't matter much to me. I'll see if I can get over it. If not I'll just reroll. Maybe as Bio or Invul since I've never made one of those.

Maybe there's a minimal FX option for it, the way Cloak of Darkness for Dark Armor has.

Max Firepower · October 7, 2020

Necro post

WM/EA doesn’t look amazing on paper/Mids, but has been a hoot and quite fun and stonkingly hard hitting. I don’t usually use IO sets before 50, other than an occasional Proc, but this has been one of the more pleasant surprises since I returned a few months ago.

strongly recommend it!

Galamane · October 8, 2020

On 10/23/2019 at 11:11 AM, MunkiLord said:

I actually ended up getting a WM/WP to 50 and built up and it's awesome.

I just hit 20 with mine and War Mace eats end like candy lol.

Would love to see your build btw

Max Firepower · October 8, 2020

1 hour ago, Galamane said:

I just hit 20 with mine and War Mace eats end like candy lol.

Would love to see your build btw

I will post up what I have-L46?

If I respec’d, I will let you know when or how I changed.

MunkiLord · October 8, 2020

3 hours ago, Galamane said:

I just hit 20 with mine and War Mace eats end like candy lol.

Would love to see your build btw

Here's what my current build is, not bad but this could definitely use some work. It'll get you through any standard content without a problem. The second build is a respec build I started over a year ago that I apparently never finished because I still have two power choices.

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Fixity: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Sorcery
Ancillary Pool: Darkness Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(34), NmnCnv-Heal(34), ResDam-I(36)
Level 2: Jawbreaker -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dam%(3), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(5)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Max HP%(48)
Level 6: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Clobber -- SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Fast Healing -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(13), Pnc-Heal(15), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(23)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-Heal(21)
Level 18: Whirling Mace -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(42), OvrFrc-End/Rech(43)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctArm-EndRdx(36), RctArm-ResDam(37), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Shatter -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), Arm-Dam%(27), Arm-Dmg(27), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(43), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(50), LucoftheG-Def(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(33), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Petrifying Gaze -- BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(39), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(39)
Level 41: Bash -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(46), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Torrent -- SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), SphIns-Acc/Rchg(45), SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SphIns-%ToHit(46), SphIns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Mystic Flight -- Flight-I(A)
Level 49: Strength of Will -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(15), RgnTss-Regen+(31)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 50: Vigor Core Paragon
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
Level 1: Quick Form
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Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
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Fixity: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(34), NmnCnv-Heal(34), ResDam-I(36)
Level 2: Jawbreaker -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dam%(3), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(5)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Max HP%(48)
Level 6: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Clobber -- SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Fast Healing -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(15), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), NmnCnv-Heal(23), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-Heal(21)
Level 18: Whirling Mace -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(42), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctArm-EndRdx(36), RctArm-ResDam(37), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Shatter -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), Arm-Dam%(27), Arm-Dmg(27), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(43), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(50), LucoftheG-Def(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(33), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 41: Confront -- MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(45), MckBrt-Taunt(45), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(46), MckBrt-Rchg(46), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(48)
Level 44: [Empty] -- Empty(A)
Level 47: [Empty] -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Strength of Will -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(15), RgnTss-Regen+(31)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 50: Vigor Core Paragon
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
Level 1: Quick Form
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Max Firepower · October 8, 2020

90% sure I respec'd about 29/30 to get more slots into Energize. The slotting levels are close - I realized later I didn't have my Health/Stamina two slotted. That was done by the teens or earlier.

The IO/SO's are in the same slots, and are generally L35/L40, not L50. I rarely put Procs in other than FFB or the Achilles where I can. Even the Miracle +Rec is a bit more than I usually do. I definitely think I'd slot some stuff differently, tbh. Why do I still have Bash, not Pulverize??

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Ballpeen at L46: Level 49 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Energy Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Experimentation

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(3), Dmg-I(5), EndRdx-I(25)
Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(7), DefBuff-I(13)
Level 2: Jawbreaker -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx(3), Dmg-I(5), EndRdx-I(11), EndRdx-I(17), Dmg(23)
Level 4: Power Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(7), DefBuff-I(15)
Level 6: Dampening Field -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam(37)
Level 8: Clobber -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(9), RechRdx(9), RechRdx(11), EndRdx-I(17), EndRdx-I(23)
Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx(13), RechRdx(25)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Energy Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ResDam(46)
Level 18: Whirling Mace -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx(19), EndRdx-I(19), EndRdx-I(21), Dmg(21), Dmg(40)
Level 20: Energy Cloak -- EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff(46), DefBuff-I(46)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 24: Kick -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(45)
Level 26: Shatter -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(27), EndRdx-I(27), Dmg-I(31), EndRdx-I(31), RechRdx(34)
Level 28: Energize -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx(31), Heal(34), Heal(42)
Level 30: Tough -- EndRdx-I(A), ResDam-I(40), ResDam-I(43)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- Acc(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(33), EndRdx(33), EndRdx-I(33), RechRdx(34), Dmg(37)
Level 35: Energy Drain -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(36), EndMod(36), DefBuff(36), DefBuff(37), RechRdx(40)
Level 38: Cross Punch -- Acc-I(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), EndRdx-I(45)
Level 41: Weave -- EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(43), DefBuff-I(43), DefBuff-I(45)
Level 44: Experimental Injection -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Quick Form
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(42)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(42)
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Edited October 8, 2020 by Max Firepower

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