Nerfs - Stealth Changes - Bullshit

[srmalloy]

On 6/27/2025 at 4:09 PM, Snarky said:

Hog,  I run Dark Armor melee.  My ass has no KB prot.  gaslight that!

Ahh, that explains why you have to run over to the corner where your ass got kicked to pick it up after every fight.. You really need to use a btter glue to keep it attached.    😁

[Snarky]

6 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

Ahh, that explains why you have to run over to the corner where your ass got kicked to pick it up after every fight.. You really need to use a btter glue to keep it attached.    😁

funny as that is... you only need 4 pts KB prot in 99% game, when 4 is not enough half the time 10 will not be either....

[Forager]

1 hour ago, Ghost said:

This doesn’t make sense.

 

Right. That's exactly what lack of empathy feels like

 

Edit: I realized it's probably a terminology issue. You are talking about approval, not empathy. Empathy is not conditional, for obvious reasons.

Edited June 29 by Forager

[Snarky]

2 hours ago, Ghost said:

Natural progression….

 

It almost as if OP is just growing tired of the game and is manufacturing a reason to quit, rather than just stepping away.

i was thinking something similar.  it is almost as if the OP is using this as an excuse to destroy the world's economy, and takeover every government using a covert system of deep cover operatives...

Edited June 29 by Snarky

[skoryy]

5 hours ago, Ghost said:

This doesn’t make sense.

 

The internet of 2025 is all about being mad, finding new reasons to be mad, and making up reasons to be mad if you can't find any.

[Snarky]

3 minutes ago, skoryy said:

 

The internet of 2025 is all about being mad, finding new reasons to be mad, and making up reasons to be mad if you can't find any.

[skoryy]

Just now, Snarky said:

And that is a very healthy attitude to have!

[Snarky]

1 hour ago, skoryy said:

And that is a very healthy attitude to have!

[jprewitt73]

21 hours ago, skoryy said:

 

The internet of 2025 is all about being mad, finding new reasons to be mad, and making up reasons to be mad if you can't find any.

 

I think you just described most of human history. 

 

[tidge]

On 6/29/2025 at 1:41 PM, Paradox Fate said:

 

There's also still the issue that some Henchmen, despite sufficiently slotted with +%Endredux IO's, still manage to run out of Endurance.

And I don't mean on the overall scale during a longer fight - A single Henchman of the group just loses it much faster than the rest of them.

I noticed that more on Zombies and Ninjas, less so on Robots.  

 

I hadn't noticed this (Robotics is the only MM I've played since i28p2)... but I've also not been paying attention except to watch the henches get hit easier by Giant Monsters.

[Oklahoman]

Sorry, this may have been mentioned earlier but I'm not reading everything in this thread. Just wanted to say that it seems the LFG popup looks to have changed, and I think for the better. But again, I don't remember reading that in the patch notes so probably something that just slipped by.

[Troo]

On 6/27/2025 at 8:27 PM, Psyonico said:

This thread should have ended when a dev said “I’ll look into it” but instead that wasn’t good enough.

 

Here's the thing. What they said they would look into was just one example.

 

Another: The 'Help Me' tag color was changed to green and caused some confusion (same color as teammate). There are more examples than some might realize.

 

[Snarky]

24 minutes ago, Troo said:

 

Here's the thing. What they said they would look into was just one example.

 

Another: The 'Help Me' tag color was changed to green and caused some confusion (same color as teammate). There are more examples than some might realize.

 

I am still (actually honestly) puzzled by the new Black Hole.  A Dev said that no minions should be intangible, but i have encountered DE emanators, swarm, and carnie strongmen who all go intangible.  And i have only been running 30-34 content with it.  Those cannot be the only examples.  Working as intended?  Not working as advertised. And honestly, really not working…

Edited Wednesday at 05:25 PM by Snarky

[Ghost]

2 hours ago, Troo said:

 

Here's the thing. What they said they would look into was just one example.

 

Another: The 'Help Me' tag color was changed to green and caused some confusion (same color as teammate). There are more examples than some might realize.

 

A congressional hearing needs to be held to look into this giant conspiracy you’ve uncovered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Oklahoman]

2 hours ago, Ghost said:

A congressional hearing needs to be held to look into this giant conspiracy you’ve uncovered.

 

I don't think it's a conspiracy, but just in this thread we seem to have noted at least 3 things that were added but were not listed in the patch notes. They may seem minor, and maybe they are, but they weren't highlighted for discussion and feedback in the beta period. Be cooler if they were. It's reasonable, then, to wonder what else slipped through - big or small - that just hasn't been brought up yet.

Edited Wednesday at 09:45 PM by Oklahoman

[Ghost]

11 minutes ago, Oklahoman said:

 

I don't think it's a conspiracy, but just in this thread we seem to have noted at least 3 things that were added but were not listed in the patch notes. They may seem minor, and maybe they are, but they weren't highlighted for discussion and feedback in the beta period. Be cooler if they were. It's not reasonable, then, to wonder what else slipped through - big or small - that just hasn't been brought up yet.

I agree, and they should be brought up and discussed.

Too bad it all started with accusations and foul language instead.

[Snarky]

16 minutes ago, Ghost said:

I agree, and they should be brought up and discussed.

Too bad it all started with accusations and foul language instead.

without accusations and foul language Tanks would still be outdamaging Scrappers...

[Captain Fabulous]

3 hours ago, Snarky said:

I am still (actually honestly) puzzled by the new Black Hole.  A Dev said that no minions should be intangible, but i have encountered DE emanators, swarm, and carnie strongmen who all go intangible.  And i have only been running 30-34 content with it.  Those cannot be the only examples.  Working as intended?  Not working as advertised. And honestly, really not working…

To be precise, she said any critter that resists the pull will go intangible, and that shouldn't include any minions. Unfortunately Strongmen do in fact have repel resistance, so they would be an exception to that statement. Emanators and swarms aren't minions, tho both also have repel resistance. Upside of BH on emanators is that they won't function while phase shifted, which is far more effective than trying to kill them, especially if there is more than one.

[Snarky]

8 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said:

To be precise, she said any critter that resists the pull will go intangible, and that shouldn't include any minions. Unfortunately Strongmen do in fact have repel resistance, so they would be an exception to that statement. Emanators and swarms aren't minions, tho both also have repel resistance. Upside of BH on emanators is that they won't function while phase shifted, which is far more effective than trying to kill them, especially if there is more than one.

Emanators are Pets, and the Swarm are Underlings.  But I can see you are willing to die on the hill of "exact statement"

 

Here is an exact statement.  Crap that is LOWER than minions are going intangible.  I have found 3 examples in 20? hours play just grinding 30-34 content.  You really think these are the ONLY examples?  Oh, but you want me to test every mob in the game, give you a detailed list, then you can start lawyering that with excuses.

 

The old Black Hole was crap.  Situationally useful once in hundreds of hours of gaming.  The new version of Black Hole is Dumb and Dumber toilet won't flush crap.  But you will continue to fawningly defend this stinker.  I use this power with a team on Discord.  they F-ing hate it.  And that is with us being able to discuss what is happening.  Imagine the joy of griefing PUGs, intentionally or most probably randomly.  Trying to figure out what is happening to what mobs and how to deal with it, in a text communication to people you do not know?  Priceless...

 

 

 

[Captain Fabulous]

53 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Emanators are Pets, and the Swarm are Underlings.  But I can see you are willing to die on the hill of "exact statement"

 

Here is an exact statement.  Crap that is LOWER than minions are going intangible.  I have found 3 examples in 20? hours play just grinding 30-34 content.  You really think these are the ONLY examples?  Oh, but you want me to test every mob in the game, give you a detailed list, then you can start lawyering that with excuses.

 

The old Black Hole was crap.  Situationally useful once in hundreds of hours of gaming.  The new version of Black Hole is Dumb and Dumber toilet won't flush crap.  But you will continue to fawningly defend this stinker.  I use this power with a team on Discord.  they F-ing hate it.  And that is with us being able to discuss what is happening.  Imagine the joy of griefing PUGs, intentionally or most probably randomly.  Trying to figure out what is happening to what mobs and how to deal with it, in a text communication to people you do not know?  Priceless...

 

 

 

Put down the torch and pitchfork, Snarky! I'm not defending the power. I haven't actually tried it. I'm simply elucidating upon what was stated as to how it works.

Edited Wednesday at 10:27 PM by Captain Fabulous

[Troo]

3 hours ago, Ghost said:

I agree, and they should be brought up and discussed.

Too bad it all started with accusations and foul language instead.

 

Bullshit.

[Captain Fabulous]

1 minute ago, Troo said:

 

Bullshit.

Which is, in fact, the precise foul language used.

[shortguy on indom]

• HEYA TROO.  CANNOT WRITE ANYTHING HERE BECAUSE IT WILL SOMEHOW LEAD TO THREAD GETTING SHUT DOWN, SINCE EVERYTHING BEING SAID AND ALL.

[Snarky]

14 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said:

• HEYA TROO.  CANNOT WRITE ANYTHING HERE BECAUSE IT WILL SOMEHOW LEAD TO THREAD GETTING SHUT DOWN, SINCE EVERYTHING BEING SAID AND ALL.

Code you must in speak can. Truth find them not here we are.  

[shortguy on indom]

10 hours ago, Snarky said:

Code you must in speak can. Truth find them not here we are.  

• BRAVO UNIFORM CHARLIE KILO SIERRA NOVEMBER OSCAR TANGO.

Edited Thursday at 12:11 PM by shortguy on indom
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