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Corruptor secondaries + Dominator secondaries (a humble request)


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I would really like to play Corruptor secondaries with Dominator secondaries. No domination mechanic.

 

These would have lots of synergy but not really be The Best at any one particular stat. 

 

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*trimming a little off the Dominator crowd control without the Dominator Control primaries.

 

Corruptor Secondaries

Dominator Secondaries

 

I think lots of the pairings would be fun as hell.

(F-*! balance! These might be a little weaker until Incarnates and that's okay. The synergies could make up for it anyway)

/kin + /energy assault (oh yeah)

/dark + /thorny (interesting)

/dark + /dark (maybe new @Snarky fav) 

/cold + /icy

/nature + /savage

/strom + /elec

/trap + /arsenel

/dark + /earth (I wanna play this)

/dark + /martial  (I wanna play this)

/rad + /sonic  (no you didn't)

and on and on


 

 
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Posted (edited)

We could call them Disruptors!

 

Or maybe Coordinators!!

 

1 hour ago, Troo said:

/strom + /elec

 

/strom + thurmand?   I mean Storm/Thermal

 

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On one hand, some of the Corruptor’s secondaries does encourage getting up close and personal such as Poison, but giving Corruptor access to Assault power sets might be asking for making an S-tier AT to be unbelievably overpowred, as Assault’s Melee Powers tend to have the best ones of their Full Melee Counterparts. A Scourged Melee Damage might be either comparable or even surpassing a Scrapper’s crit.

 

There were suggestion on Melee/Buff and there are concerns about that AT idea overshadowing both sides. Allowing Corruptor to using highly-damaging, reliable Melee Powers before reaching Level 35 is asking to overshadow the Melee ATs even more. At least the Dominator doesn’t use Buff/Debuff and is countered by factors like higher than average endcost and WANTING to use Haste to be optimal.

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5 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

@LightMaster

 

The request isn't to give corruptors dom secondaries, its to create a new AT.  Presumably one without scourge. 

Hopefully without something like Scourge. If that’s the case, then it might be a solid well-rounder AT without overlapping too much with Melee ATs, then.

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3 hours ago, Troo said:

I would really like to play Corruptor secondaries with Dominator secondaries. No domination mechanic.

 

These would have lots of synergy but not really be The Best at any one particular stat. 

 

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*trimming a little off the Dominator crowd control without the Dominator Control primaries.

 

Corruptor Secondaries

Dominator Secondaries

 

I think lots of the pairings would be fun as hell.

 

/dark + /dark (maybe new @Snarky fav) 

 

i looked, intrigued.  i walked away, unimpressed...

 

i am not a fan of melee.  so getting 3 melee attacks while losing two cones and a nuke?  hard pass.  i also use the mag 2 stun dark pit to pair with a mag 2 stun aura from the epic dark.  

 

in short this would entirely gimp my Corr, not even a ,,,shadow,,, of a doubt

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So basically a corruptor with quite a bit less AoE since Dom assault sets are definitely not known for great AoE (example: fire assault doesn't even get fireball).  No nuke so losing even more AoE.  Instead some melee attacks which would put them in more danger and require more running in and out of melee.  No scourge on top of it. 

 

A lot would of course though depend on what base damage mods this new AT would get. but I doubt they'd get particularly high ones since they'd have a 'support' set.  They'd need something else special to make them interesting and worth the trouble imo.  

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This is literally Rebirth's Guardian AT.

 

Like, right down to the power scales. Guardians use Dom damage values for their Primaries and Corr values for theie secondary. 

 

The one big difference is that the secondaries have been reworked to keep the strongest abilities and swap in armor set powers so your character has some (limited) tank but can still do the impactful things like Fulcrum Shift or Chrono Boost etc.

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6 hours ago, Psyonico said:

@LightMaster

 

The request isn't to give corruptors dom secondaries, its to create a new AT.  Presumably one without scourge. 

 

Correct.

I hadn't really decided about scourge. Likely there could be something like [if under some control = modifier]

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Have you thought about inherents for the archetype?  Maybe something like "Using a Primary power (buff) reduces the cooldown on Secondary powers (attacks).  Using a Secondary power reduces the endurance cost on Primary powers (for 3 seconds?  5?  One activation?)".

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3 hours ago, ThatGuyCDude said:

Have you thought about inherents for the archetype?  Maybe something like "Using a Primary power (buff) reduces the cooldown on Secondary powers (attacks).  Using a Secondary power reduces the endurance cost on Primary powers (for 3 seconds?  5?  One activation?)".

 

Interesting.

 

I had not. I typically avoid mechanics that powersets or archetypes may have.

Example: Dominators, domination, and the quasi-requirement to have permadon in order to.. blah blah blah.

 

 

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"Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown  (Wise words Unknown!)

Si vis pacem, para bellum

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I would love a Poison/Thorn or Traps/Arse.

I like how dom secondaries is a more realistic rendition of one's powers, a mix of ranged and melee. 

The inherent could be something similar to the Brute Fury bar that gives you a Tanker T9 minus the crash

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On 10/10/2025 at 1:14 PM, LightMaster said:

On one hand, some of the Corruptor’s secondaries does encourage getting up close and personal such as Poison, but giving Corruptor access to Assault power sets might be asking for making an S-tier AT to be unbelievably overpowred, as Assault’s Melee Powers tend to have the best ones of their Full Melee Counterparts. A Scourged Melee Damage might be either comparable or even surpassing a Scrapper’s crit.

 

There were suggestion on Melee/Buff and there are concerns about that AT idea overshadowing both sides. Allowing Corruptor to using highly-damaging, reliable Melee Powers before reaching Level 35 is asking to overshadow the Melee ATs even more. At least the Dominator doesn’t use Buff/Debuff and is countered by factors like higher than average endcost and WANTING to use Haste to be optimal.

 

Dominator can use buff/debuff and lots of other ATs can have high endcosts and want Haste. I have a mind/psi/psi dominator with Leadership and it's nice other than the fact I got kind of annoyed at the dominator AT sets being like "would you like some fire and fury to go with that?" instead of playing into what I actually built and the Domination ability not visually matching. The Support/Assault AT sounds like it would just be a better Sentinel tbh, since Sentinel is acting like it wants to be a support with its inherent ability and epic pools but then it's statted where it seems like it just can't use those, and the best Sentinels are like elec/elec and the worst are psi/ninjutsu. 

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