Grok Imagine is SUPER!

[Silver Lancer]

I uploaded a screeshot into Grok Imagine and I love the way it turned out.

[Silver Lancer]

One more screen shot but a different toon.

[Glacier Peak]

Are the artists who made all of the things in those clips credited somewhere?

[Silver Lancer]

13 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

Are the artists who made all of the things in those clips credited somewhere?

Do all artists who draw influence from other artists give credit to every piece they make? To me, there is little difference when a large visual model incorporates images to make something new. 

Anyway, I know its AI slop but it's been fun messing about with it.  

 

[Silver Lancer]

[Excraft]

14 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

Are the artists who made all of the things in those clips credited somewhere?

 

Are artists like Lee Falk, Jerry Siegel, Joe Schuster, Bob Kane, Jack Kirby or Stan Lee credited anywhere on the characters you've created in CoH?  They all contributed to creating the superhero genre that this game is based around, and I'll bet real money any of your characters are in some way, regardless of how slight a similarity,  derivative of earlier works by other artists.  I'll bet real money you aren't crediting any of them either.  

 

I get that people don't like AI and that's ok, but these kinds of comments are a little hypocritical.  

[Glacier Peak]

2 hours ago, Silver Lancer said:

Do all artists who draw influence from other artists give credit to every piece they make? To me, there is little difference when a large visual model incorporates images to make something new. 

Anyway, I know its AI slop but it's been fun messing about with it.  

 

You didn't answer my question.

[Latex]

Oh boy. Here we go... 🫡

[Krimson]

Don't worry about the Anti-AI crowd, not even a little bit. All they do is make comments but otherwise they do nothing. They have no organization, no lobbyists, no funding, no plan, and no clue. They'll make comments about AI wasting water, while eating rice and beef. 

 

The Anti-AI crowd are disruptors. They ONLY exist to disrupt while contributing nothing to society. On Reddit they are a dime a dozen. 

 

Ignore the disruptors. No one is going to hold their hands and shut down AI for them. 

[Silver Lancer]

1 hour ago, Glacier Peak said:

You didn't answer my question.

The answer is no.

Sorry, I thought it was a rhetorical question.

Edited 3 hours ago by Silver Lancer
clarification

[Ghost]

49 minutes ago, Krimson said:

Don't worry about the Anti-AI crowd, not even a little bit. All they do is make comments but otherwise they do nothing. They have no organization, no lobbyists, no funding, no plan, and no clue. They'll make comments about AI wasting water, while eating rice and beef. 

 

The Anti-AI crowd are disruptors. They ONLY exist to disrupt while contributing nothing to society. On Reddit they are a dime a dozen. 

 

Ignore the disruptors. No one is going to hold their hands and shut down AI for them. 

These same people have no problem…..

-Listening to electronic music, taking money from actual musicians.

-Going to concerts with backing tracks, again taking money from actual musicians.

-Watching movies with CGI instead of practical effects.

 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Ghost

[Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Silver Lancer said:

No.

Sorry, I thought it was a rhetorical question.

He can’t hear you up on his high horse.

[Glacier Peak]

1 minute ago, Silver Lancer said:

No.

Sorry, I thought it was a rhetorical question.

Can you just give me a link to the thing you used?

[Silver Lancer]

12 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

Can you just give me a link to the thing you used?

Sure. https://grok.com/imagine

[Excraft]

2 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

You didn't answer my question.

 

You didn't answer my question.  Where's your credit to artists like Lee Falk, Jerry Siegel, Joe Schuster, Bob Kane, Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Alex Ross, John Byrne, George Perez, Jim Lee or any other artists and creatives out there who created the superhero genre that this game is based on?  I will absolutely guarantee every character you've created here is derivative of the work of someone else and you've done diddly to give any of them a single shred of credit.

 

Let's take this another step further.  The artists who created the Romanesque environment for Cimerora and the clothing for the NPCs and such there - where do they give credit to the real life Roman artists, engineers and designers who designed and built those kinds of buildings and clothing back in the day of the Roman Empire?  I can't seem to find them giving those Roman artists credit anywhere.  Perhaps you can help me find it.  

 

 

[battlewraith]

1 hour ago, Krimson said:

Don't worry about the Anti-AI crowd, not even a little bit. All they do is make comments but otherwise they do nothing. They have no organization, no lobbyists, no funding, no plan, and no clue. They'll make comments about AI wasting water, while eating rice and beef. 

 

The Anti-AI crowd are disruptors. They ONLY exist to disrupt while contributing nothing to society. On Reddit they are a dime a dozen. 

 

Ignore the disruptors. No one is going to hold their hands and shut down AI for them. 

 

This is one of the craziest AI takes I've ever read. 

The anti-AI crowd are mainly artists. They are the ones who actually create things for the society. And they actually do have a plan--don't indulge in this garbage. Try to protect your work so that it isn't laundered through an AI process that some company will profit off of. Etc. 

 

[biostem]

No one mourns for the buggy-whip salesmen...

[El D]

Ya know, besides the fact that every concept in those clips could have been done via demo-editing, what strikes me the most is that the AI animations are just... similar to CoH's existing ones. It couldn't manage to 'imagine' anything better than what the game already offers? Aside from the generic dancing, the rest all have FX or emote equivalents in the game as is, and at minimum the in-game versions would have been more consistent because there'd be no weird upscaling effects or textures. It's like suddenly switching to a pre-rendered cutscene but the cutscene is obviously unfinished. I'd have figured it'd generate stuff well beyond the game engine's limitations, the character doing something really cool they literally can't do even with demo-editing or dev tools, but apparently not. The guy flying and throwing energy blasts at the same time could at least be plausibly faked as in-game footage, but the energy blasts don't even line up with his hands.

Edited 2 hours ago by El D

[Excraft]

52 minutes ago, Ghost said:

These same people have no problem…..

-Listening to electronic music, taking money from actual musicians.

-Going to concerts with backing tracks, again taking money from actual musicians.

-Watching movies with CGI instead of practical effects.

 

It's way more dumber than even that.

 

These same people crying over AI stealing jobs have absolutely no problem...

• Turning on the light bulbs in their house - which put candlemakers out of work.
• Getting in their car to go somewhere - which put horse drawn carriage builders, carriage drivers and horse breeders out of work.  Not to mention the people who used to clean up after the horses.
• Flushing their toilet - putting people who used to empty chamber pots out of work.
• Storing food in their modern fridge - which put ice delivery people out of work.
• Sending emails instead of mailing a letter - puts tons of postal workers out of work.
• Using the phone to make a call - put telegraph workers out of work.
• Taking selfie photos on their camera phone - put portrait painters out of work.

You could spend months listing all these out.  And by their own definition and standards, every single one of these things these AI hypocrites are doing is feeding money into some evil greedy company that stole work from someone else to make a profit.  The hypocrisy knows no end.   

 

[Latex]

I had a friend mess with Grok Imagine and it's astonishing how far it's come. Though, it does still have that slop quality to it, despite being impressive it's not close to something hand tailored; but that takes time (a lot of it, generally) effort and skill.

I view AI currently like fast-food, sometimes slop isn't all that bad. Too much of it is very off putting though.

Musk saying we'll be watching fully AI video in 2026 is a stretch and video games that are fully crafted by AI in 2027 is an even bigger leap.

[Glacier Peak]

1 hour ago, Silver Lancer said:

Sure. https://grok.com/imagine

Thank you! Now I can actually see the thing. What were the prompts? Did you just take an in-game video and upload it? 

[Krimson]

32 minutes ago, battlewraith said:

 

This is one of the craziest AI takes I've ever read. 

The anti-AI crowd are mainly artists. They are the ones who actually create things for the society. And they actually do have a plan--don't indulge in this garbage. Try to protect your work so that it isn't laundered through an AI process that some company will profit off of. Etc. 

 

I was there when the market for bow-legged waifus fell out at DeviantArt. None of the artists I know are blaming AI for anything because they have ability. Also, why is it that people ONLY started caring about artist compensation AFTER generative AI came out? 

[Clave Dark 5]

6 hours ago, Excraft said:

 

Are artists like Lee Falk, Jerry Siegel, Joe Schuster, Bob Kane, Jack Kirby or Stan Lee credited anywhere on the characters you've created in CoH?  They all contributed to creating the superhero genre that this game is based around, and I'll bet real money any of your characters are in some way, regardless of how slight a similarity,  derivative of earlier works by other artists.  I'll bet real money you aren't crediting any of them either.  

 

I get that people don't like AI and that's ok, but these kinds of comments are a little hypocritical.  

The difference here is we're not making money off their work, no one here is, except Grok.

[battlewraith]

1 hour ago, Krimson said:

I was there when the market for bow-legged waifus fell out at DeviantArt. None of the artists I know are blaming AI for anything because they have ability. Also, why is it that people ONLY started caring about artist compensation AFTER generative AI came out? 

 

Compensation for artists has been an issue for a long time. The concern with AI is not simply about compensation, it's about your creative output being used to train an automated process that is intended to replace the need for people like you. Most anti-AI people aren't focused on blaming afaik. They are just trying to keep AI content out of their communities and are focused on supporting creative people and not tech companies. 

 

1 hour ago, biostem said:

No one mourns for the buggy-whip salesmen...

 

Fallacious comparison. Technological development leads to specific goods and contingent services becoming obsolete. The type of AI being discussed is an automated process that seeks to replace the creative labor of human beings in general (ironically by scraping vast datasets of human creative output). So the logical extension of your statement is "no one mourns for the creative people."

[biostem]

3 minutes ago, battlewraith said:

Fallacious comparison. Technological development leads to specific goods and contingent services becoming obsolete. The type of AI being discussed is an automated process that seeks to replace the creative labor of human beings in general (ironically by scraping vast datasets of human creative output). So the logical extension of your statement is "no one mourns for the creative people."

Just as cars automated tasks that horses or other such beasts of burden used to perform, Photoshop and other such tools automated manual art/editing techniques.  AI is just the next step in that evolution.