Grok Imagine is SUPER!

[battlewraith]

On 10/17/2025 at 11:15 PM, Silver Lancer said:

I uploaded a screeshot into Grok Imagine and I love the way it turned out.

 

Why are you posting this stuff here instead of the AI art thread?

[tidge]

I wish I could blame The Flash seasons 6+ on AI slop.

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

It's certainly permissible for folks to have different points of view on anything, including AI generated stuff.  But please keep the debate on a higher level and not insult each other.

 

 

[Krimson]

The thread is a good example of why I rarely share anything on this site.

[cranebump]

I think the bigger issue with AI comes down to whether everyone responding in a chat forum is real. At some point, we won’t know the difference. 
 

AI is a nice tool. Really nice. But there’s grounds for aome questioning what is lost and what is gained, rather than blindly bowing before it (like Peter Thiel thinks we should).

Edited yesterday at 07:34 PM by cranebump

[El D]

47 minutes ago, cranebump said:

I think the bigger issue with AI comes down to whether everyone responding in a chat forum is real. At some point, we won’t know the difference. 

 

That's already the case on many of the large social media sites. Any instance where there's possibility for high levels of traffic or profitable engagement, they become inundated with bots pushing AI content to users who cannot spot it (see Facebook and old people) and/or to users who can spot it but are either apathetic or actively share it because 'haha computer thing do stuff I like.' Given that Homecoming is a forum for a 20+ year old game, is at the fringe of an already niche interest, and that the MMO market is nowhere near what it was even ten years ago, it's thankfully not remotely popular enough to be worth that kind investment. That means aside from the occasional spammer, posters here are most likely actual people, so AI content cropping up here is due to real users who are actually interested in it.

 

Given the prior replies in this thread, these seem to be the acceptable aspects regarding AI:

 

- AI does things that its users lack the technical or artistic skill to do, otherwise they would do it themselves

- AI is cheaper than commissioning someone who does possess the technical or artistic skills its users lack, so there's no longer a necessity to pay someone else

- AI does things much faster, so even if its users had the technical or artistic skill or knew of another person who did, it's still quicker to just enter a prompt

- AI is inevitable, so the internet might as well get used to its imperfect state now because eventually it's going to go from 'convincing but has tells' to 'indistinguishable'

 

That last part I have to take a bit of an issue with, not on any technical or even moral ground but just on the nature of branding. Even if the media fidelity of generative AI improves to a direct one-to-one with real video, AI companies are going to go out of their way to say AI made it. Specifically their AI, which is better than the competition. Case in point, this thread. Rather than post in any of the existing AI content threads, there's now a brand new one with Grok directly in the title. What's the Grok thread about? Why, showing off the neat stuff Grok does and encouraging others here to use Grok. 'Look what Grok can make when fed with NCSoft's IP! You too can do this, just give your CoH screenshots to Grok! This thread hosted by Homecoming.' The forum already had areas for posting AI content, so why did Grok deserve its own name drop? I have doubts that OP works for xAI and even more that Homecoming or NCSoft have any partnerships with them, so it's probably not intentional on that front. It's far more likely that OP, as they said, likes the things that specific AI generator does and just wanted to share. That doesn't change the fact that the thread still has the name slapped all over it and is pretty much free advertising on Homecoming's dime (courtesy of content xAI is being given free access to, but doesn't own).

 

Of course, that distinction only works when AI is being advertised, be it intentional or not. Plenty of folks have used AI secretly. Fake screenshots to troll a friend, fake texts to get back at someone, fake videos to generate likes, fake contest submissions to get prize money. That's the real tipping point. Not companies using it as a labeled, marketed product or active users encouraging others to their specific favorite, but people generating things at their own discretion without any requirement to declare AI was used at all. It makes me incredibly glad we can still tell the stuff posted here and on Discord are CoH screenshots that have been AI-ified, generator name drop or no. If it were advanced enough to make something that actually looks like legit in-game content? That's the ballgame for any amount of civility and trust here. What happens to the forums when we stop being able to tell the difference between content that doesn't exist and things that actually happened in-game or are really in development? What happens to community relations when anyone can show up with something that looks like a real interaction, but isn't? Does ToS apply to AI generated content at all, since it isn't actually happening in-game - no matter how much it increasingly looks like it did? Sure, Homecoming could still ban someone if they're dumb enough to post ToS breaking stuff on an official site, but what authority do the devs have if it's hosted elsewhere? 'Hey, that's an unauthorized use of our IP, please take it down' doesn't hold much water when hefty portion of Homecoming's own community already doesn't care about that and - more importantly - are the ones generating the fake AI content in the first place.

[Maagic]

Personally I've been using ChatGPT to make realistic looking versions of my characters because Grok is absolute crap at it. Now the VIDEOS on the other hand just blow my mind. 

[Maagic]