Street Justice - Spinning Strike

[Ukase]

This should be a known issue, but I've no idea. Just in case it's not, this makes no sense to me. 
Clearly, this is a PBAoE. 

So, my suggestion is this be properly configured for what it is. 
 

 

 

 

[Spaghetti Betty]

Spinning Strike has been a TAoE since it's inception, and as such takes TAoE sets. It's just that TAoE sets got renamed to Ranged AoE at some point and Spinning Strike was grandfathered in as it was the only melee TAoE at the time. I really don't see that changing as it would cause a pretty big disruption to character builds.

[Psyonico]

Yeah, it's not a pbaoe.  The AoE is centered on your target, not you. 

[Ukase]

Could have fooled me. It works in melee - doesn't work at range. Whether it's centered around the npc or the character doesn't really matter. If they won't relabel it as PBAoE, they might think about extending the range to make it a true Targeted AoE. Something like 40-60 feet. 

Edited Monday at 08:25 PM by Ukase

[Rudra]

1 hour ago, Ukase said:

Could have fooled me. It works in melee - doesn't work at range. Whether it's centered around the npc or the character doesn't really matter. If they won't relabel it as PBAoE, they might think about extending the range to make it a true Targeted AoE. Something like 40-60 feet. 

It's center of effect is your target in melee range, not you. That means the power should be taking targeted AoE enhancements because it is centered on the target, again, not on you. This was told to you twice before. The effect is not centered on you, so it is not a PBAoE, so it should not be taking PBAoE enhancement sets.

 

That is all targeted AoE enhancement means, an enhancement set to buff an AoE power whose center of effect is your target, not your character. A power does not need to have an effect of 40-60 feet away for it to be a power that uses targeted AoE enhancements. It only needs to be an AoE effect power whose center is not you.

 

Edited Monday at 09:25 PM by Rudra
Edited to add "your target,". And again to add "n AoE".

[biostem]

On 10/26/2025 at 1:46 PM, Ukase said:

Clearly, this is a PBAoE. 

A point-blank area of effect power, AFAIK, doesn't have both a power range AND a power radius - it'll just say something like "target: self" or something similar...

 

For comparison, Tanker combustion from fiery melee:

Edited Tuesday at 06:04 PM by biostem

[Chance Jackson]

On 10/27/2025 at 4:23 PM, Ukase said:

Could have fooled me. It works in melee - doesn't work at range. Whether it's centered around the npc or the character doesn't really matter. If they won't relabel it as PBAoE, they might think about extending the range to make it a true Targeted AoE. Something like 40-60 feet. 

 

Another way to think of it Ukase, is that PBAOEs do not require an enemy to target to do damage a fact that can be very useful if an enemy is stuck in geometry & thus can't be hit with a targeted attack.

[Chris24601]

3 hours ago, Chance Jackson said:

 

Another way to think of it Ukase, is that PBAOEs do not require an enemy to target to do damage a fact that can be very useful if an enemy is stuck in geometry & thus can't be hit with a targeted attack.

Yup. And I know cottage rule is a thing, but presuming we leave the enhancement type alone (grandfathered essentially), could we please turn Spinning Kick into a genuine PBAoE so that Street Justice has one for precisely this purpose (and laggy zone raids)?

[Rudra]

46 minutes ago, Chris24601 said:

could we please turn Spinning Kick into a genuine PBAoE

Short comment: this is something I support.

[Forager]

On 10/27/2025 at 4:23 PM, Ukase said:

they might think about extending the range to make it a true Targeted AoE. Something like 40-60 feet. 

 

Lol wut

[biostem]

6 minutes ago, Forager said:

Lol wut

It would then have to be something like savage leap or lightning rod, both of which are T9s, IIRC...

[tidge]

[Ukase]

So, just to make it clear - when I play - my camera is zoomed out at max. So, I usually only see what's going on when I'm in a tight space and the camera can't zoom that far out. 
To me - given the description of the power, I just assumed it was PBAoE. (why did they chance PBAoE into melee aoe, and why change TAoE to ranged AoE? I know they had their reasons, but I don't like the change, but I digress - and that was a rhetorical question, because they're not going to change it back) 

After some chat with Rudra, I have come to see the light, so to speak. 
Now, I don't like it - mainly because I like the PBAoE invention sets better than the TAoE. Other than that, it's really not that big of a deal. 

This will be yet another character relegated to the back pages simply because it uses that combo sequence - which isn't bad, but I prefer consistent damage regardless of what order I mash the buttons. 

[The Trouble]

19 hours ago, Chris24601 said:

Yup. And I know cottage rule is a thing, but presuming we leave the enhancement type alone (grandfathered essentially), could we please turn Spinning Kick into a genuine PBAoE so that Street Justice has one for precisely this purpose (and laggy zone raids)?

But what about weirdos like me that like it's current functionality?  I don't need to be in the middle of the crowd to effectively fire this off, and I really like that.  As a PBAoE, I could accidentally use Spinning Strike with nothing in range, and evaporate Combo 3 for no reason.

 

It feels strange to advocate for the tiny kernel of wisdom that lies in the center of the Cottage Rule...

[srmalloy]

21 hours ago, Chris24601 said:

could we please turn Spinning Kick into a genuine PBAoE so that Street Justice has one for precisely this purpose

You could always make a macro for it -- "/macro Spin powexeclocation me Spinning Strike" -- to automatically target it at your feet, letting you use it as a PBAoE with a single click/keypress.

[Rudra]

2 hours ago, srmalloy said:

You could always make a macro for it -- "/macro Spin powexeclocation me Spinning Strike" -- to automatically target it at your feet, letting you use it as a PBAoE with a single click/keypress.

Spinning Strike is a TAoE with a required target of Foe (Alive) to function. How would that macro even work?

[srmalloy]

43 minutes ago, Rudra said:

Spinning Strike is a TAoE with a required target of Foe (Alive) to function. How would that macro even work?

You're right;I misread the description. 

[VPrime]

I wouldn't mind suggesting that Spinning Strike be turned into a PBAoE.

[Rudra]

4 hours ago, The Trouble said:

But what about weirdos like me that like it's current functionality?  I don't need to be in the middle of the crowd to effectively fire this off, and I really like that.  As a PBAoE, I could accidentally use Spinning Strike with nothing in range, and evaporate Combo 3 for no reason.

 

It feels strange to advocate for the tiny kernel of wisdom that lies in the center of the Cottage Rule...

I typically find myself using Sweeping Cross when I hit Combo 3, and only instinctively defaulting to Spinning Strike when I am surrounded. Except, Spinning Strike does nothing for being surrounded. So my preference would be for it to be a PBAoE.

 

However, I also favor the retention of established powers in their current form for those players that like and use them the way they are. So while I would prefer Spinning Strike was a PBAoE, I am not going to push for it. That was the purpose behind my short comment above. I support Spinning Strike being a PBAoE, but am not going to advocate for it.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Rudra
Edited to correct "me" to "my".