Open Beta for new content

[Psylenz0511]

I find it unconscionable that open beta for a new release just lasts 7 days. There are things to be fixed and the devs have apparently said they will (hex bubble thing). This release could have used more beta testing. It feels like open beta testers are not appreciated.

 

Suggestion:

Go ahead and dictate new content. It's fine. It's a feature since enhancement diversification. There is no need to pretend that one week of open beta will catch bugs before the content goes live.

[Lunar Ronin]

It's a good thing then that open beta for Page 3 was fifteen days.

 

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[Glacier Peak]

It's even better when anyone can join closed beta and it was tested there even longer!

[tidge]

I can really only speak to the most recent round of MM changes, as that is what I tested.

• There was one proposed change that got rolled back (henchmen HP reductions) that was well-recognized as being a step too far.
• For even-level content, MMs take up to ~20% more time to accomplish what they used to.
• Everything else MM-related (general changes) is pretty much a wash(*1).

The first would have been a brutal nerf to both the survival of MMs, and their damage output... so hopefully that is no longer under consideration.

The second is one that we pretty much have to *shrug*, because of a promise of some future improvements <-- and I am only commenting in this thread because those improvements are supposed to roll out before 2026(!), so I hope we can test them in Open Beta.

 

(*1) I didn't test content (solo +3 or higher) that justified the changes... basically, "address purple patch for henchmen"... stuff I wouldn't MM solo anyway,,, so I'm disappointed in the performance change right now, but I have an atom of hope because it was more-or-less recognized that MMs would have to get something more, it just wasn't announced what.

 

I saw General comments in game (from a player that isn't well-known for play performance) that was ga-ga over the henchmen getting 40% of (most of) the set bonuses. I am not skeptical about their excitement, I skeptical that the 40% (while in Supremacy range) are doing much... MMs tend to have to franken-slot (my main appears to do far less franken-slotting than most) which means fewer bonuses... and most bonuses (that can be inhereted) are rather small even before the 0.40 factor). Of the items "on the table" for a future update: I suspect that henchmen will end up inheriting 100% of the same set bonuses, because the 20% performance reduction is real... and set bonuses won't affect that at all... except possibly those 15% +Accuracy bonuses that are possible from sets.

 

 

[Psylenz0511]

21 hours ago, Lunar Ronin said:

It's a good thing then that open beta for Page 3 was fifteen days.

 

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I admit my mistake in the timing of open beta. It just seemed as short as a week.

[Psylenz0511]

19 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

It's even better when anyone can join closed beta and it was tested there even longer!

Truth be told, I thought you had to be invited to closed beta, how else is it closed?

[TygerDarkstorm]

6 minutes ago, Psylenz0511 said:

Truth be told, I thought you had to be invited to closed beta, how else is it closed?

You apply to be in it.

[Glacier Peak]

16 minutes ago, Psylenz0511 said:

Truth be told, I thought you had to be invited to closed beta, how else is it closed?

https://forums.homecomingservers.com/closedbeta/

[macskull]

In defense of the OP, the open beta for this one was definitely a rush job and it's not the first time that's happened. There's stuff missing from the patch notes and there are bugs that were present - and brought up repeatedly - the entire closed beta period that still made it through open beta and onto live.

 

OP: Please do apply for closed beta access if you haven't already done that. Closed beta sorely needs more people that aren't just rubber stamping whatever gets put up there to test.

[Wravis]

They only tested Sonic Melee for a week on Closed Beta, and a week on Open Beta (before announcing it was feature locked.)

Most other things were tested for much longer. Some things have been tested for months and still weren't ready in time.

They pick and choose what they actually want input on.

Edited 11 hours ago by Wravis
clarification

[golstat2003]

At this point if it’s not game breaking just ship it. Trying to feature creep 1344555 items into a release is part of the problem. I’d rather 4 smaller releases per year that are focused and easy to test. We don’t need a glute of new features. And features do not need to be 100 percent perfect to release.

 

They do patches at other time that are not Page level that they can use to correct things after the fact.