OldSchool SC Fight Club Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 A lot of people want to fight Statesman and Sister like the old days!! Since it is a "timeline" thing... Why not allow an LRSF "arc" in Ouro with the original 8 vs. 8 fight? No incarnate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaxArcana Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 +1 If the content is still in the code, and intact ... making it accessible somehow (and Ouro makes perfect sense) would be MOAR CONTENT for relatively low investment of resources. Global Handle: @PaxArcana ... Home servers on Live: Freedom & Virtue ... Home Server on HC: Torchbearer Archetype: Casual Gamer ... Powersets: Forum Melee / Neckbeard ... Kryptonite: Altoholism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I disagree. I think they should just revert the LRSF to the way it was. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justicebeliever Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 +2. One for LRSF and one for Stateman’s TF. "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr Global Handle: @JusticeBeliever ... Home servers on Live: Guardian ... Playing on: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaeon Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Paragon Studios had a plan to hold a contest to replace Statesman as FP's designated tanker with a fan created character. Positron would remain the leader of the team, but a process much like the creation of Numina would be outsourced to the fans. I think that should be done as a way of stamping Homecoming's own feel onto the game. Though personally I'd vote for the Ascendant; he was probably the best known fan-character, shares statesman's power set, and was already kinda canonised. "Titan/Bio scrappers are the stealthiest toons in the game." "How's that possible? They don't have any inherent stealth and you'd never take concealment pool powers on them!" "You see; they're perfect at stealth because nobody will notice if there's nobody to notice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaxArcana Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I disagree. I think they should just revert the LRSF to the way it was. .... and what about people who might like what it has become now? Tough luck for them? Global Handle: @PaxArcana ... Home servers on Live: Freedom & Virtue ... Home Server on HC: Torchbearer Archetype: Casual Gamer ... Powersets: Forum Melee / Neckbeard ... Kryptonite: Altoholism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I disagree. I think they should just revert the LRSF to the way it was. .... and what about people who might like what it has become now? Tough luck for them? I guess. Who would prefer the version where NPCs are just missing? A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaeon Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I disagree. I think they should just revert the LRSF to the way it was. .... and what about people who might like what it has become now? Tough luck for them? I guess. Who would prefer the version where NPCs are just missing? The plan was always to replace Statesman's place in the Freedom Phalanx (as the designated tanker) with a fan created character, though not as leader as that was Positron's permanent new position. A plan that I think HC should go through with. Also honestly Penelope Yin is much more dangerous than Psyche ever was. "Titan/Bio scrappers are the stealthiest toons in the game." "How's that possible? They don't have any inherent stealth and you'd never take concealment pool powers on them!" "You see; they're perfect at stealth because nobody will notice if there's nobody to notice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I disagree. I think they should just revert the LRSF to the way it was. .... and what about people who might like what it has become now? Tough luck for them? I guess. Who would prefer the version where NPCs are just missing? The plan was always to replace Statesman with a fan created character. Also honestly Penelope Yin is much more dangerous than Psyche ever was. Maybe. But I doubt she's more dangerous alone than Psyche + Statesman. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaeon Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I disagree. I think they should just revert the LRSF to the way it was. .... and what about people who might like what it has become now? Tough luck for them? I guess. Who would prefer the version where NPCs are just missing? The plan was always to replace Statesman with a fan created character. Also honestly Penelope Yin is much more dangerous than Psyche ever was. Maybe. But I doubt she's more dangerous alone than Psyche + Statesman. Replacing Statesman with a new OC Tanker would probably make the new LRSF as hard as the old one; slightly harder probably since Psyche is replaced by the more dangerous Penelope; especially since Positron has gotten a big boy buff as is fitting for the "face" of Blueside. "Titan/Bio scrappers are the stealthiest toons in the game." "How's that possible? They don't have any inherent stealth and you'd never take concealment pool powers on them!" "You see; they're perfect at stealth because nobody will notice if there's nobody to notice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Replacing Statesman with a new OC Tanker would probably make the new LRSF as hard as the old one; slightly harder probably since Psyche is replaced by the more dangerous Penelope; especially since Positron has gotten a big boy buff as is fitting for the "face" of Blueside. Yin's pet and knockup AoE are annoying, but they aren't as dangerous as Statesman's four AoE attacks. Plus, Yin's always the first target teams take down, while Statesman usually needed to be saved towards the end of the fight, because his Unstoppable makes him 100% resistant to most damage. That means Statesman plays a bigger role over the course of the fight than Yin does. As for Positron, his attacks are the same as they ever were. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobu Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 They're not comparing Penny Yin to Statesman, they're comparing her to Sister Psyche. The question is, does Ascedant (or other fan replacement) + Penny Yin = Statesman + Sister Psyche? And honestly I like the idea of Ascendant as the fan tanker replacement, and I don't like the idea of bringing back a character to the main task force who has a memorial zone dedicated to them because they're dead. Putting the old TF in Ouro, that's an idea I could entertain. We could do that and add a fan replacement to the actual TF. ^_^ As for the Statesman Task Force... is there anything about it that changed, other than the contact? I didn't think there was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxfyre Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 This is likely impossible as the old version may not even be in the code anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justicebeliever Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 They're not comparing Penny Yin to Statesman, they're comparing her to Sister Psyche. The question is, does Ascedant (or other fan replacement) + Penny Yin = Statesman + Sister Psyche? And honestly I like the idea of Ascendant as the fan tanker replacement, and I don't like the idea of bringing back a character to the main task force who has a memorial zone dedicated to them because they're dead. Putting the old TF in Ouro, that's an idea I could entertain. We could do that and add a fan replacement to the actual TF. ^_^ As for the Statesman Task Force... is there anything about it that changed, other than the contact? I didn't think there was. Right as always...I shift my other +1 giving Ascendant Statesman's spot on the TF... "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr Global Handle: @JusticeBeliever ... Home servers on Live: Guardian ... Playing on: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 They're not comparing Penny Yin to Statesman, they're comparing her to Sister Psyche. The question is, does Ascedant (or other fan replacement) + Penny Yin = Statesman + Sister Psyche? It's a distinction without a difference. Yin is nowhere close to Statesman, so obviously Yin is not equal to Statesman + Psyche. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobu Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 The question: does A + B = C + D? Your answer: B =/= C + D :o :o :o :o ::) :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrIlluminatis Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I'd prefer that Ms. Liberty take up the FP Tanker Status, have the new Fan created character join the Vindicators. -It would make more sense story wise to handle it this way, and it could be used as a good story arc where finally we get a Sidekick character that takes over for their mentor. Story wise have some incarnate energy infect the Liberty Belt, which alters Ms. Liberty's powers to a more tanker type set. Have the fan created character be part of the arc as well. The end result would be Ms. Liberty joining the FP, and being the Incarnate signature character, with the Fan made character joining the Vindicators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilii Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Yin is absolutely more dangerous than Statesman + Psyche, by the way. Have you SEEN the damage she puts out?! Girl can hit for 3k-4k on the straight hit part of her attack, then it dots for hundreds per tick for what seems like an infinite amount of time. They weren't kidding with that "most powerful psychic in the world" stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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