graeberguinn Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 These do not always become available for use after cool down. They will stay shaded an unable to click on to use. Happened on multiple toons. Sometimes if I go to p2w vendor, revoke power and then re get it will work. Most times buggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justicebeliever Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 If you shut them off before 30 secs of use, it will recharge and be ready again in 30 sec. If you use the whole 30 sec, it will not be usable again until you zone (map, train, tunnel, whatever). It's working "as designed" but it's a very crappy design... "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr Global Handle: @JusticeBeliever ... Home servers on Live: Guardian ... Playing on: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunsette Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, justicebeliever said: If you shut them off before 30 secs of use, it will recharge and be ready again in 30 sec. If you use the whole 30 sec, it will not be usable again until you zone (map, train, tunnel, whatever). It's working "as designed" but it's a very crappy design... Is that intended? Because I let it timeout all the time on my 50s no problem. It's low levels where timing out usually grays it out, for me. Sentinel Guide Collaborative Project | New KB IO Suggestions Sundered Marches: The Website | The Official Soundtrack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justicebeliever Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Sunsette said: Is that intended? Because I let it timeout all the time on my 50s no problem. It's low levels where timing out usually grays it out, for me. It’ll recharge for 30 sec no matter what. But if you’ve already used it for a full 30 before that, it’ll just stay gray after the recharge. that was how it was implemented on Live. Like I said, I think it’s a pretty crappy design "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr Global Handle: @JusticeBeliever ... Home servers on Live: Guardian ... Playing on: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunsette Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) That may be how it's supposed to work -- I vaguely recall that from live, now you mention it -- but then it's inconsistent the other way: Runs the full 30 seconds, recharges, no problem. Notice this on my 50s, while my low-levels are stuck with that not working. I think the characters that don't have this issue have global recharge, which would indicate some incredibly sloppy coding. Edited July 26, 2019 by Sunsette Sentinel Guide Collaborative Project | New KB IO Suggestions Sundered Marches: The Website | The Official Soundtrack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlynne Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Sunsette said: would indicate some incredibly sloppy coding. This is my shocked face. To think that would be ANY incredibly sloppy coding in a game that Noble Savage himself told me, in person, at the 2012 Player Summit was ... and I quote ... "all spaghetti code now" ... is ... um ... entirely predictable and only to be expected. I mean, it was only Arbiter Hawk himself who said at that same Player Summit during a panel that for some parts of the game, working on the base game code was like trying to work with a jenga stack WHILE IT'S ON FIRE!!!!!!! So yeah ... this is my shocked face. Right. Moving on ... Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunsette Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Um. Okay. 1 Sentinel Guide Collaborative Project | New KB IO Suggestions Sundered Marches: The Website | The Official Soundtrack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clave Dark 5 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, Redlynne said: jenga stack WHILE IT'S ON FIRE!!!!!!! Great, now I want to start a Staff/Fiery Aura scrapper named Jenga Stack On Fire. Just what I need, another alt, thanks a lot. _____________________________ Hi, I'm Clave Dark 5! You may remember me from such characters as King Pumpkin Spice, Stupid Like A Fox, Capt Sam's Space Zoo, The Pink Bamfer, Trash Ghost, Maid Of Metal... as well as a few really stupid AE arcs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I used the jump pack as my ghetto travel power on many brutes from issue 10 on when I joined. It was never buggy. I ran through the whole charge without turning it off and it cycled back. Just. Like. Any. Other. Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunsette Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Snarky said: I used the jump pack as my ghetto travel power on many brutes from issue 10 on when I joined. It was never buggy. I ran through the whole charge without turning it off and it cycled back. Just. Like. Any. Other. Power Okay, but this is in fact a bug that commonly occurs: Incidentally I did some basic testing -- all of my characters I was able to replicate the issue on right away were below level 50 or had become exemplared below level 50. No level 50 characters had the issue without exemplaring. However, some non-50 characters did not trigger the issue. It appeared to occur irrespective of the amount of global recharge, so probably a spurious bit of memory on my part prior. Anecdata tabulation Character Security Level Combat Level Has Global Recharge? Grayed Out? A 50 50 ✔️ ❌ A 50 29 ✔️ ✔️ B 50 50 ❌ ❌ B 50 29 ❌ ❌ C 50 50 ✔️ ❌ C 50 29 ✔️ ✔️ D 32 32 ❌ ❌ E 35 35 ✔️ ✔️ F 30 30 ❌ ✔️ G 12 12 ❌ ✔️ Edited July 26, 2019 by Sunsette 1 Sentinel Guide Collaborative Project | New KB IO Suggestions Sundered Marches: The Website | The Official Soundtrack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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