Time/DP Critique Request

BrandX · August 25, 2019

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Time DP: Level 50 Science Defender
Primary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Secondary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Temporal Mending
(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
(3) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
(3) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
(5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
(7) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 1: Pistols
(A) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(9) Superior Vigilant Assault - RechargeTime/PBAoE +Absorb
(9) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
(11) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(11) Gladiator's Javelin - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2: Time's Juncture
(A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
(13) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance
(13) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
(15) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow

Level 4: Dual Wield
(A) Superior Vigilant Assault - Damage/RechargeTime
(15) Superior Vigilant Assault - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(17) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(17) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
(19) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(19) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 6: Empty Clips
(A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(21) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(21) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 8: Distortion Field
(A) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(23) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(23) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage
(25) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(25) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(31) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold

Level 10: Swap Ammo
Level 12: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(29) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(31) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 14: Hover
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 16: Bullet Rain
(A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(34) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
(34) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(34) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 18: Farsight
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Karma - Defense/Endurance
(36) Karma - Defense/Recharge

Level 20: Boxing
(A) Empty

Level 22: Tough
(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(39) Titanium Coating - Endurance
(39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(39) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 24: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 26: Slowed Response
(A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(27) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance
(31) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 28: Executioner's Shot
(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
(42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
(43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(43) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(43) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage

Level 30: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 32: Chrono Shift
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
(37) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
(45) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(45) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Panacea - Heal
(46) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge

Level 35: Charged Armor
(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(46) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(48) Titanium Coating - Endurance

Level 38: Hail of Bullets
(A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(48) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(48) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(50) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(50) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
(50) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 41: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(42) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Power Sink
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance

Level 47: Electric Shackles
(A) Empty

Level 49: Fly
(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint
(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(40) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(33) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(33) Endurance Modification IO

Level 10:   Chemical Ammunition
Level 10:   Cryo Ammunition
Level 10:   Incendiary Ammunition
Level 0:   Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0:   Portal Jockey
Level 0:   Elusive Mind
Level 0:   Task Force Commander
Level 50:   Musculature Radial Paragon
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What I've gotten so far. Don't quite have the 45% Defense I'd like to have on top of the -To-Hit. Trying to get all the damage I could. Wondering how much the -Resist of Slowed Response helps on a single target.

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Edited August 26, 2019 by BrandX

Crowcus Pocus · August 25, 2019

Can't open this build without a data chunk, but if you want capped defenses all you need is to get either version of Power Boost.

PB + Farsight feels like cheating. That's how good it is.

In fact, it's so easy to get great defenses with a Time/DP, that you really should consider going with a Proc heavy build to greatly improve your damage output and your -res debuff potential.

Check Proc Monsters thread and you'll find at least one great Time/DP build in there.

Edited August 25, 2019 by Falsey

BrandX · August 26, 2019

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BrandX · August 26, 2019

4 hours ago, Falsey said:

Can't open this build without a data chunk, but if you want capped defenses all you need is to get either version of Power Boost.

PB + Farsight feels like cheating. That's how good it is.

In fact, it's so easy to get great defenses with a Time/DP, that you really should consider going with a Proc heavy build to greatly improve your damage output and your -res debuff potential.

Check Proc Monsters thread and you'll find at least one great Time/DP build in there.

I did go looking through those, but I believe it liked to rely on Incarnate powers.

Bopper · August 26, 2019

54 minutes ago, BrandX said:

I did go looking through those, but I believe it liked to rely on Incarnate powers.

If it was my build, it didn't rely on incarnates. I simply showed what incarnates I used. PB + Farsight still softcapped my build.

Riverdusk · August 26, 2019

20 hours ago, Bopper said:

If it was my build, it didn't rely on incarnates. I simply showed what incarnates I used. PB + Farsight still softcapped my build.

Wanted to let you know Bopper, that you and your build inspired me to try a Time/DP. Been testing it a little on beta server, will probably start it tonight for real. I was surprised that things seem to proc regardless of ammo type used (so force feedbacks proc even if you aren't using lethal ammo). That is amazing and gives DP more proc opportunities than I realized.

BrandX · August 27, 2019

On 8/25/2019 at 9:25 PM, Bopper said:

If it was my build, it didn't rely on incarnates. I simply showed what incarnates I used. PB + Farsight still softcapped my build.

Looking over your build, I got to wondering.

Is Hasten needed?

If I read your PPM right. FF: +RCH in ES looks like it would proc often. Is it enough to make Chrono Shift Perma without Hasten?

Also, Mids looks like it the FF: +RCH causes the procs to lessen, though I thought I read that it didn't.

Is it just the slotted +RCH that effects Procs, or is it Hasten/Chrono Shift/FF Proc too?

Bopper · August 27, 2019

6 minutes ago, BrandX said:

Looking over your build, I got to wondering.

Is Hasten needed?

If I read your PPM right. FF: +RCH in ES looks like it would proc often. Is it enough to make Chrono Shift Perma without Hasten?

Also, Mids looks like it the FF: +RCH causes the procs to lessen, though I thought I read that it didn't.

Is it just the slotted +RCH that effects Procs, or is it Hasten/Chrono Shift/FF Proc too?

Is Hasten needed? Maybe not. But there is nothing I could imagine replacing Hasten with. I think I only 1 slot it, and it just makes every work better (more reliable).

Bopper · August 27, 2019

5 hours ago, Riverdusk said:

Wanted to let you know Bopper, that you and your build inspired me to try a Time/DP. Been testing it a little on beta server, will probably start it tonight for real. I was surprised that things seem to proc regardless of ammo type used (so force feedbacks proc even if you aren't using lethal ammo). That is amazing and gives DP more proc opportunities than I realized.

That is definitely a major factor for why I love Dual Pistols.

Redlynne · August 27, 2019

1 hour ago, BrandX said:

Is Hasten needed?

If you want to perma Farsight and Chrono Shift ... then yes.

Sure, you can rely on Force Feedback procs to "hasten" global recharge for you ... but that only lasts 5 seconds per proc and requires $Targets for you to attack. That works fine when you're CONSTANTLY attacking $Targets, but not quite so well when you're not.

The answer to the question is really ... AND ... as in Hasten AND Force Feedback proc(s) are needed. If you're fishing for an OR answer, you're going to be sadly disappointed ... but sometimes you just have to touch the park bench to know that the Wet Paint sign on it wasn't a lie ... no?

BrandX · August 27, 2019

1 minute ago, Redlynne said:

If you want to perma Farsight and Chrono Shift ... then yes.

Sure, you can rely on Force Feedback procs to "hasten" global recharge for you ... but that only lasts 5 seconds per proc and requires $Targets for you to attack. That works fine when you're CONSTANTLY attacking $Targets, but not quite so well when you're not.

The answer to the question is really ... AND ... as in Hasten AND Force Feedback proc(s) are needed. If you're fishing for an OR answer, you're going to be sadly disappointed ... but sometimes you just have to touch the park bench to know that the Wet Paint sign on it wasn't a lie ... no?

Build wise, I can get Farsight Perma without Hasten. It's Chrono Shift that becomes the harder one.

However, I asked the question, because according to Mids, Hasten is reducing the damage of the procs, but so is the Force Feedback: +Recharge Proc.

So, I was just seeing if there was ways to make that less of an issue.

I'm guessing not.

Bopper · August 27, 2019

22 minutes ago, BrandX said:

Build wise, I can get Farsight Perma without Hasten. It's Chrono Shift that becomes the harder one.

However, I asked the question, because according to Mids, Hasten is reducing the damage of the procs, but so is the Force Feedback: +Recharge Proc.

So, I was just seeing if there was ways to make that less of an issue.

I'm guessing not.

Mids doesn't know how to calculate Proc probability. Hasten has no effect. You can read my PPM guide for accurate info. Mids is still ramping up with i25+ changes.

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