Bots/FF

[Hyperstrike]

4 hours ago, Herotu said:

I've got to L43 on my Bots/FF MM and I'm really wondering what other secondary I should have gone with. FF doesn't seem to do much for my survivability. It's quite grim.

Uh.  What?

How're you built?  Chasing defense buffs?

[Herotu]

8 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

Uh.  What?

How're you built?  Chasing defense buffs?

Yes, lots of defense.

[Hyperstrike]

Yeah.  Tankermind generally requires set bonuses and the various uniques.

[Herotu]

18 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

Yeah.  Tankermind generally requires set bonuses and the various uniques.

It seems odd to me that FF is so weak and needs boosts that any MM has access to. I think I'll try another secondary.

Edited October 18, 2019 by Herotu

[Hyperstrike]

2 hours ago, Herotu said:

It seems odd to me that FF is so weak and needs boosts that any MM has access to. I think I'll try another secondary.

When comparing against other MMs, common IOs isn't exactly the way to go.
It's inefficient to slot, and FF is primarily a support Secondary.

Again, take a look, up-thread, at the Bots/FF build I dropped.

 

[thespiritfox2]

9 hours ago, Herotu said:

It seems odd to me that FF is so weak and needs boosts that any MM has access to. I think I'll try another secondary.

try /traps. like ff its very safe. but also an AV muderer

[Force Redux]

Where's Personal Force Field? That's your I Win button when you come under fire. 

 

Agree you are overslotting your toggles and shields.

 

FF does more buffs for your pets than you, however.

 

Like many support sets, some IO set slotting goes a long way to making you tougher.

 

If you're not interested in sticking with FF I'd recommend Time.

 

However my Bots/FF was one of my tankiest characters. I can post a build is you like.

 

IMO you go FF because you like status protection, PFF and easy bubbles/soft cap pets, and a low maintenance secondary.

Edited October 21, 2019 by Force Redux

[Hyperstrike]

6 hours ago, Force Redux said:

IMO you go FF because you like status protection, PFF and easy bubbles/soft cap pets, and a low maintenance secondary.

Beyond a certain point, PFF becomes somewhat superfluous.
It's kinda like taking Barrier "For a little extra defense" on a fully kitted out SR Tank.
YES, Barrier ALSO buffs Res (which is SUPER beneficial to SR).
But PRACTICAL differences between steady-state Defense in the 80's vs a fading Defense buffs in the 100's?  Zip.  Zero.  Zilch.  One less than Uno.  I man hell!  You haven't even popped Elude!

And does Elude+Barrier bumping you to 270% REALLY mean anything?

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MC Hammer: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(3), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(5), Rct-ResDam%:50(5)
Level 1: Jab -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(13), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(17), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(17), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(19)
Level 2: Focused Senses -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(3)
Level 4: Haymaker -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg:50(7), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb:50(11)
Level 6: Agile -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(7)
Level 8: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(31)
Level 10: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt:50(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg:50(45), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(46), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg:50(46), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng:50(46), MckBrt-Rchg:50(48)
Level 12: Dodge -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(13)
Level 14: Evasion -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(15)
Level 16: Kick -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(48), Hct-Acc/Rchg:50(50), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx:50(50), Hct-Dam%:50(50)
Level 18: Lucky -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(19)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%:50(31)
Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(27), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(27)
Level 24: Weave -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(25)
Level 26: Quickness -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 28: Rage -- GssSynFr--ToHit:50(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg:50(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(37), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx:50(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx:50(43), GssSynFr--Build%:50(45)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(31)
Level 32: Elude -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(33)
Level 35: Hurl -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(36), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(37), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc:50(37)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(40)
Level 41: Char -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold:50(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg:50(42), SprEnt-End/Rchg:50(42), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End:50(42), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg:50(43), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc:50(43)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 47: Hover -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 49: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(33), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(33)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(34), EffAdp-EndMod:50(34)
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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[Force Redux]

@Hyperstrike

My use for PFF on MM has always been strategic. It has a higher recharge than the Defender version, so it's important to use it economically.

 

Yes, it's often overkill for Defense (but the resistance is never "wasted"). But it also means it's immune to cascading defense failure and many mobs with +ACC. It's also steady state. The buff is there as long as you want it to last. The usual caveat about only affecting self, of course, during it's duration.

 

It's an extra tool to consider when deciding in PFF as a secondary for MM:

 

1. Turtling up when you take unwanted fire.

 

2. Aid Self with no interruptions.

 

3. Prevent team wipes. Works very well with Assemble the Team.

 

4. Ghosting through missions. Also works great with Assemble the Team.

 

5. QoL stuff. Safe badging. Safe AFKs. Etc.

 

There's a lot more versatile sets than FF. But what FF does, it does well. I was highlighting why I tend to enjoy it, and it's selling points vs other sets. It's like Super Reflexes: it's not that versatile, but it's good at what it sets out to do.

 

So the three major selling point to me as a MM are:

 

- Easy way to defense cap pets.

- Offers status protection for self, pets and team long before Clarion. Frees up a Destiny choice if you make it to Incarnate. Works even when you exemplar down.

- Situational imperviousness

- Low maintenance

 

I personally would pair FF only with Robots, Thugs, Ninjas or Beasts due to their interest Defense stacking. Because it has its repelling powers, I think it's a perfect match for the ranged Robots though.

 

Just my two Inf.

Edited October 21, 2019 by Force Redux

[Hyperstrike]

On 10/16/2019 at 9:10 PM, Herotu said:

I've got to L43 on my Bots/FF MM and I'm really wondering what other secondary I should have gone with. FF doesn't seem to do much for my survivability. It's quite grim.

Depends on your build.

 

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Ain't No Rangle Plot - Possible : Level 50 Natural Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Heat Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef:50(25)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc:50(11)
Level 2: Pulse Rifle Burst -- Thn-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Thn-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36)
Level 4: Kick -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(46), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(46)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(7), LucoftheG-Def:50(50)
Level 8: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 10: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(11)
Level 12: Protector Bots -- SprMarofS-Dmg:50(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx:50(13), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg:50(13), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx:50(15), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(17), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen:50(19)
Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(15)
Level 16: Weave -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(17), Rct-Def/Rchg:50(37), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 18: Repair -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- Rct-Def:50(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(21), Rct-Def/Rchg:50(36), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 22: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(23)
Level 24: Deflection Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- BldMnd-Acc/Dmg:50(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx:50(27), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(29), BldMnd-Acc:50(29), BldMnd-Dmg:50(33)
Level 28: Insulation Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 30: Photon Grenade -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg:50(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), PstBls-Dmg/Rng:50(31), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(33)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 35: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(36)
Level 38: Repulsion Bomb -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(40), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc:50(40)
Level 41: Bonfire -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Rgn-Knock%:50(43)
Level 44: Fire Ball -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg:50(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg:50(45), PstBls-Dmg/Rng:50(45), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(46)
Level 47: Rise of the Phoenix -- Erd-Acc/Rchg:30(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(48), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(48), ClvBlo-Acc/Dmg:50(48), ClvBlo-Dmg/EndRdx:50(50), ClvBlo-Dmg/Rchg:50(50)
Level 49: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(3), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(3)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(5)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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[Hyperstrike]

On 10/16/2019 at 9:10 PM, Herotu said:

I've got to L43 on my Bots/FF MM and I'm really wondering what other secondary I should have gone with. FF doesn't seem to do much for my survivability. It's quite grim.

By itself, with only Generic IOs, yeah.  It's nothing special.

Fully optioned out, after set bonuses tune you up, put on big tires, chrome your exhaust and give you a gaudy paint job, you're far, FAR more survivable...

 

[Force Redux]

I just decided to finish up my Bots/FF (level 41) after leveling up and incarnating to 50+3 a Thugs/Time, Beasts/Time, Bots/Cold, Demons/Thermal and Necro/Dark.

 

They were all great performers, each with their strengths, but I've missed my old main, and will be completing the build. 

 

Overall, I find my Robots/FF, Beasts/Time and Nero/Dark my most fun MMs based on a combination of mechanics, theme and play style. 

 

I'll post my build later. As Robots/FF is a popular level 50 combination according to the devs, perhaps some will find it of use.

Edited December 31, 2019 by Force Redux

[Gunnarr]

I'd like to see your build, Force Redux, if you don't mind sharing it.

[Force Redux]

1 hour ago, Gunnarr said:

I'd like to see your build, Force Redux, if you don't mind sharing it.

Sure thing. I had an old one around here, but I've revised it. I'll post tomorrow.

[Force Redux]

On 2/11/2020 at 6:16 AM, Gunnarr said:

I'd like to see your build, Force Redux, if you don't mind sharing it.

Here you go. Capped to Ranged Defense. Things don't really get to melee you, or even care about you, since the pets are tanky and tough and don't need tankerminding. Solid resists for S/L/E as well. 

 

I procc'd out Force Bolt, it can do respectable damage. 

 

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[horo22]

On 9/8/2019 at 1:48 AM, Hyperstrike said:

Basically Bots/FF is the Tankiest of the MM builds in terms of raw Defense delivered.
 

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962
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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pulse Rifle Blast -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(37)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(13), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(33), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(33)
Level 2: Battle Drones -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(3), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(3), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(11)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 6: Pulse Rifle Burst -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(11)
Level 8: Insulation Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Photon Grenade -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(43), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Rgn-Knock%(43)
Level 14: Protector Bots -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(19)
Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 18: Repair -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(45), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(46), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(48)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-ResDam%(21)
Level 22: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 24: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(27), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(29), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(31)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29), Ksm-ToHit+(45)
Level 30: Repulsion Field -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 44: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 47: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), RgnTss-Regen+(48), Prv-Absorb%(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Question...I tried to follow this build pretty close...I'm now at 47 but I don't see Scorpion Shield as a possibility.  Am I missing something or did it change?

[Psylenz0511]

You need to take one of the first two abilities in Scorpion epic powers to unlock Scorpion Shield, unless they changed that, too

[horo22]

3 hours ago, Psylenz0511 said:

You need to take one of the first two abilities in Scorpion epic powers to unlock Scorpion Shield, unless they changed that, too

Yeah...there are only 4 epic powers showing as an option...I believe Ice, Fire, Electrical and something else...Scorpion doesn't look like an option

[Hyperstrike]

3 hours ago, Psylenz0511 said:

You need to take one of the first two abilities in Scorpion epic powers to unlock Scorpion Shield, unless they changed that, too

Scorpion Shield is an L1 alternate power in Mace Mastery.
You don't have to take any powers in front of it.

[Hyperstrike]

5 hours ago, horo22 said:

Question...I tried to follow this build pretty close...I'm now at 47 but I don't see Scorpion Shield as a possibility.  Am I missing something or did it change?

Have you done your Patron unlock arc?  If not, Black Scorpion's is about the shortest.
You have to have a patron unlocked to select Mace, Soul, Leviathan and Mu Mastery.

[Dixa]

On 9/7/2019 at 10:48 PM, Hyperstrike said:

Basically Bots/FF is the Tankiest of the MM builds in terms of raw Defense delivered.
 

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pulse Rifle Blast -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(37)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(13), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(33), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(33)
Level 2: Battle Drones -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(3), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(3), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(11)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 6: Pulse Rifle Burst -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(11)
Level 8: Insulation Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Photon Grenade -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(43), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Rgn-Knock%(43)
Level 14: Protector Bots -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(19)
Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 18: Repair -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(45), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(46), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(48)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-ResDam%(21)
Level 22: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 24: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(27), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(29), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(31)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29), Ksm-ToHit+(45)
Level 30: Repulsion Field -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 44: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 47: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), RgnTss-Regen+(48), Prv-Absorb%(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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it's also one of the slowest killing mm options, 2nd only to mercs/anything. 

[Dixa]

On 10/17/2019 at 8:01 AM, Herotu said:

Yes, lots of defense.

NEVER slot heal into protector bots. it bugs out their heal script and they will stop firing it. no more than 3 slots in the shields, maneuvers, weave unless you have a specific io set in mind for them. do not slot assault. don't slot tactics unless you plan to put a tohit buff in there. if you have end problems, 3 slot stamina with perf shifter chance for end, perf shifter end, io end and three slot health with numinas, miracle's and panacea's procs. 

[Hyperstrike]

2 hours ago, Dixa said:

it's also one of the slowest killing mm options, 2nd only to mercs/anything. 

Yes.  But you do it from what is essentially complete safety.

And remember, you're talking to a guy whose SPECIALTY is "Everything Can Be Made To Tank".
Insta-Kill isn't exactly in a Tank's wheelhouse.

*Pause for irony*

If you're lazy/patient/just have lots of time to burn, the only reason you aren't classified as a Brute (or at least a Scrapper) is cruel irony.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Hyperstrike

[Dixa]

On 4/21/2020 at 2:23 PM, Hyperstrike said:

Yes.  But you do it from what is essentially complete safety.

And remember, you're talking to a guy whose SPECIALTY is "Everything Can Be Made To Tank".
Insta-Kill isn't exactly in a Tank's wheelhouse.

*Pause for irony*

If you're lazy/patient/just have lots of time to burn, the only reason you aren't classified as a Brute (or at least a Scrapper) is cruel irony.

except it's not safe. none of the mm's are. they are the most vulnerable AT to endgame mechanics in the entire game. 

 

you will dramatically increase your safety by killing stuff faster.