Echo Night

Hi all. I've asked @Steampunkette if I can post my build here instead of making another thread about the exact same thing and she graciously said yes. The build is based off of hers so if it isn't good, blame her 🙂 J/k. As this is my very first dom including live, I am not sure on a great many of things and would like some input/advice/critiques from the pros. Obviously, I know to go for perma dom, which I did. Easy enough. Then I tried to go for perma hasten, which I'm close to. I'm level 47 now and have been collecting the easy pieces as I go, like the numina, miracle, perf shf, panacea and so forth, but the main issue I have, is that there just seems to be too many powers to use. I've almost always played a melee type character so it was way easier to pick and choose from the list. But do I need all of the powers for end game content? End usage was a concern as a melee because of all the toggles (I mained a MA/DA scrapper, yeesh,) so I thought I'd also have end issues with a dom as well. Which is why I'm light on the toggles. No tough, weave or ancillary/epic shield (do most doms take these?). I figured I'd supplant the lack of res/def toggles with RoP and LM. I pop both, hit the fear, then leap in and wreck things. When LM (LM isn't perma yet) expires I back out at range until the mobs are all dead. RoP's cool down forces me to stay mostly at range until it's back up. The FF procs really speed this up. As of now, w/o all of the sets, end and survivability isn't an issue at +1/2 but I know the higher I go and with the end game looming, will be different. My attack chain is as follows - Dark Grasp on the highest tiered mob, Fearsome Stare the rest, send in the shades, Feral Charge, Heart of Darkness, maybe Shadow Field if not all got stunned, then build up stacks of Blood Frenzy ending with Rending Flurry. Dark Grasp is on auto at this point focusing on the highest tiered mob if it's still alive. Swarm, (when I remember to use it) is also focused on the high guy for the -def. So, before I go spend millions or waste merits, how's this look? Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.3 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! October Rust(PerDomNrPermHastPerLMNrPerSpPr): Level 50 Magic Dominator Primary Power Set: Darkness Control Secondary Power Set: Savage Assault Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Dark Grasp -- SprDmnGrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprDmnGrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(3), SprDmnGrs-Rchg/Fiery Orb(3), SprDmnGrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(5), SprDmnGrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 1: Call Swarm -- Dcm-Build%(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(43), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(50) Level 2: Maiming Slash -- CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg(11), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(13), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13) Level 4: Vicious Slash -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Hct-Acc/Rchg(15), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Hct-Dmg(17), FrcFdb-Rechg%(45) Level 6: Possess -- SprAscoft-Rchg/+Dmg%(A), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(7), SprAscoft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(7), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(9), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(9), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(25), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 10: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(31), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(46) Level 14: Heart of Darkness -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(27), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(33), Stp-Stun/Rng(48), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(50) Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19) Level 18: Haunt -- CaltoArm-Acc/Rchg(A), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg(34), CaltoArm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), CaltoArm-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 20: Rending Flurry -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg(21), Arm-Dam%(23), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Arm-Acc/Rchg(25) Level 22: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A) Level 24: Rune of Protection -- TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), GldArm-3defTpProc(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36) Level 26: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 28: Spot Prey -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(40) Level 30: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 32: Umbra Beast -- CaltoArm-Acc/Rchg(A), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg(33), CaltoArm-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), CaltoArm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37) Level 35: Call Hawk -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg(40), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apc-Acc/Rchg(43) Level 38: Feral Charge -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 41: Link Minds -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(42), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 44: Unkindness -- Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Dmg(45), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(46) Level 47: Shadow Field -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(48), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(50) Level 49: Vengeance -- 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Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks for posting this! For some reason when I click on the data link for every build that is put up in the forums, it won't open. I get an error message that says I don't have an app to open this with. So, like every other build I'm curious about and see on the forums that doesn't have a chunk to copy and paste, I build it off of what I see. I notice when building this, that you've got 3 powers in the wrong level spot. Steam Spray is a level 26 power. Geyser is a level 32 power and Tornado is a level 35 power. Other then that, how the heck don't you have end issues? I know that you said this was mostly for fire farms, but even with that, it seems like you'd be poppin blues like they're going out of style. Stamina isn't slotted, health isn't stam slotted, no end reduction in a lot of your attack powers. Does everything die so fast and do the procs just help kill that much faster that end isn't an issue? Or does DC help to where end isn't a concern even though it's on a near 2 min cool down w/o the FF procs hitting? Anyways, lots to chew as I try and make this an non farming build for myself.

Wait, there's a difference?

I was just about to post this very same thing.

Crystal Seize - Storm/Water Def Vinegar Strokes - Thugs/Pain MM More HumanThan Human - Kin/Reg Brute October Rust - Dark/Sav Dom Noom Flow (Wolf Moon in reverse) - Staff/Rad Scrapper Trailer Traps - AR/Traps Corr

Hi and thanks for the reply and the copious amount of suggestions. The main reason for the power set combination is theme. My chars name is Echo Night. I think the original version back before sunset was a Sonic/Sonic def and it just didn't feel right. IIRC, I don't think we were able to to have this combo at the time I created him way back. I'm not going to address every single point you made, just to say that they were all great and hopefully the updated build reflects that I read and applied your suggestions, I think almost all of them. My primary goals were to get typed defense as high as I possibly could and get endurance sustenance to a manageable level. Sounds counter intuitive with CoF but I love Dark Armor and remember the mighty struggle I had with my Ma/Da scrapper back in the day to include every single toggle and run them while attacking. It was a true intensive labor of love. When I was building this, I think I was still in my scrapper mind set and with the plethora of new sets to play with, I got a little lost in the build. I normally don't ask for help because then the build doesn't feel like mine. But when I realized I wasn't making a scrapper build, I figured wth. Let's seek some guidance and you sure supplied plenty of good guidance. For the most part, I truly didn't know what to do with this build per se. I knew what I wanted, I just didn't see how to get there, so thank you. As of this writing, Echo Night, is only 22. But I like to have my builds planned out way in advance so that I can start picking up stuff along the way. Here's the updated build. Edit: What is Justine? And how do I test this there? Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Echo Night: Level 50 Magic Sentinel Primary Power Set: Sonic Attack Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Hero Profile: Level 1: Shriek -- SprSntWar-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg(3), SprSntWar-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), UnbGrd-ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), GldArm-3defTpProc(37) Level 2: Scream -- SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19) Level 4: Tenebrous Regeneration -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(17), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(45) Level 6: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thn-Acc/Dmg(50) Level 8: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(11), StdPrt-ResKB(45) Level 12: Shockwave -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(13), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Rgn-Dmg(15), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(17) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(42) Level 16: Obscure Sustenance -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(40), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(42), Prv-Absorb%(43) Level 18: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39) Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- RedFrt-Def(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(23), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(25), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(39), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43) Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 24: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 26: Screech -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(27), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Apc-Acc/Rchg(29) Level 28: Howl -- JvlVll-Acc/End/Rech(A), JvlVll-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(31), Rgn-Knock%(31), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(33), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(33), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33) Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(39), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(43) Level 32: Dreadful Wail -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg(36), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Rchg(37) Level 35: Amplify -- GssSynFr--Build%(A) Level 38: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 41: Spirit Ward -- Heal-I(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(46), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(46), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46) Level 47: Weave -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Rct-Def(48), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(50), Rct-Def/Rchg(50) Level 49: Oppressive Gloom -- RzzDzz-Immob%(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Opportunity Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Heal(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(34) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(34), PrfShf-EndMod(34) ------------

There we go. Thanks so much for this!

I'm making this my main and was wondering if anyone could give some advice. I haven't seen this combo anywhere unless it was posted within the last day or so I don't have much to go on except what I think I know I need to make this work. I know /dark is very needy but judicious toggle play will hopefully take care of that. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Echo Night: Level 50 Magic Sentinel Primary Power Set: Sonic Attack Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Hero Profile: Level 1: Shriek -- SprSntWar-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg(19), SprSntWar-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), UnbGrd-ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11) Level 2: Scream -- SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(23), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(25), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(25), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27) Level 4: Tenebrous Regeneration -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(13), Pnc-Heal(50) Level 6: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 8: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(11), StdPrt-ResKB(27) Level 12: Shockwave -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(13), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Rgn-Dmg(33), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(34) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15), RechRdx-I(15) Level 16: Obscure Sustenance -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(17), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(17), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Obl-%Dam(31) Level 18: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam(33) Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), ShlWal-Def(36), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(36), ShlWal-EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 24: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 26: Screech -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- SphIns-ToHitDeb(A), SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(42), SphIns-Acc/Rchg(42), SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SphIns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SphIns-%ToHit(43) Level 30: Tough -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam(37), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(39), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(39), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 32: Dreadful Wail -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46) Level 35: Amplify -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 38: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 41: Spirit Ward -- Heal-I(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 47: Weave -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Rct-Def(48), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(50), Rct-Def/Rchg(50) Level 49: Oppressive Gloom -- AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Opportunity Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A) Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(3) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(5), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(5) ------------

I know how to but it doesn't look right or normal when I do it from mids. It looks like there's way to much unnecessary information like color schemes for all the powers and two data chunks. It just doesn't look like what I've seen many others post.

After further searching, I found V2.6 and the unused sets are no longer there 😞 Thanks all.

It's the 2.23 version. I got it directly from the link on the forums. Although weirdly, that link leads to the 2.22.0.8 version.

I just checked for an update but it says there isn't one. And yah, that's too bad. I was a toss up tween the two. Oh well. Thanks for the reply.

I've built a Staff/Rad Scrapper and have chosen FoW as a set to use but the power set doesn't come up when leveling up at a trainer even though it's available at level 4, according to the builder (Pine's). But on the wiki page (which I just looked at after the confusion at the trainer) at the top it says that it is "potential future game content." Is this an old header or is this an unlockable power at a later level?

I don't have CJ but is there a bind to just turn on and off flight?

Formerly Hollows but sadly, someone has taken it. Now, it's Echo Night! Echo Night Epic Warrior Noom Flow Wicked Syn Nova Javelin etc...