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The Internet Archive also has the PDF - https://archive.org/details/City_of_Heroes_Prima/ as well as one for City of Villains - https://archive.org/details/City_of_Villains_Prima But please remember that all of the information in these guides are terribly outdated and always think twice about clicking any links, even those posted by GMs!

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We do, on rare occasion, agree that something close is acceptable for one reason or another. We also find players that state that their character is intended as homage or parody in their bios. Such a statement is not dispositive to our decision. If you feel that something is too close, go ahead and report it. If we have previously approved it, there should be a note (possibly several) in our internal tools to that effect and the player will get a pass again. As players can change costumes and write whatever they want in their bios you can give any such statement whatever weight you think that deserves. It may be true that a character was adjudicated as acceptable but you won't be able to tell. We will. If you, as a player, successfully pass a GM review on a character you can certainly note that, if you wish. If a GM jumps the gun and issues a generic on something that has been previously approved, file a ticket to appeal it and the decision can be reverted. If you write something like that down in your bio and our notes disprove your statement, you might find that you just dug your hole several feet deeper. (I'm using a generic you, not YOU = Techwright) While I am way down on the decision making chain of command, I'm pretty sure that we are not going to come up with a literal stamp of approval.

Folks: It's OK to post builds, ask for builds and even critique builds. It's not OK to critique each other or diagnose mental health. Finally, I leave this little quote from the Code of Conduct:

Sorry to be pedantic, but I can't help myself. It is not the only way. You can potentially become a dev yourself and work on the things you want to see and you could also just get lucky and have something you wanted added by a like minded Dev. You can also seek to join Closed Beta and influence things in progress. Regarding my prior post: As expected, no dev volunteered to put forth a suggestion into the suggestion forum. As a policy, they do not discuss work-in-progress publicly until it is in open beta and only selectively before that. One dev did, however, share a story. When the game was live, they made a suggestion to have Granite Armor Customization and actually got Back Alley Brawler to respond that it was never going to happen, which made them sad. Years later, when that player joined the team, they saw a bunch of code where BaBs and Co. tried to make it work, but couldn't. This player turned Dev tried to do it themselves and came to the same conclusion -- it can't be done well. The devs are like the rest of us -- people who love to play this superhero game. They came to the job with their own ideas and talents and work on things that interest them and that they think would be great additions to the game. They do visit the forums and Discord, some more than others, and are aware of suggestions players make. It's not practical for them to respond to suggestions, so they don't. They have lives beyond the game and spend their spare time either playing the game or working on it. If they had to explain why each individual idea was or was not feasible they'd have little time for anything else. So instead you are stuck with me and the other GMs until something goes into open beta when the devs are more likely to chime in to the forums and occasionally give us a write up of their concept and process. So basically: Some suggestions are impossible to accomplish with the existing code. Some suggestions are possible, but impractical due to resources. It can take hundreds and sometimes thousands of dev-hours to take an idea through the iteration process and ultimately into the game. Some suggestions are possible, but too niche -- it may make the suggester happy but few others. Some suggestions are possible, but no one on the team is currently interested in working on it. Someone may work on it later as a dev finishes something in progress or a new dev who is passionate about that suggestion comes on the team. Some suggestions are currently being worked on but it may take awhile to make it into the game, or they might find that it doesn't make the cut after trying. And frankly, some suggestions are just bad, whether they are possible or not. With regard to the OP -- whether there is no point to make suggestions -- Players are free and encouraged to make suggestions and defend them, if they wish, and others are also free to critique those suggestions, as long as everyone does it respectfully. However, just because you are free to suggest, defend, and critique, we could all do a better job of choosing whether to do so and how often to do so. Whether it is 10%, 1%, or .1% there is a chance that your suggestion may make it into the game. If you feel that the odds are too low you are also free to not post your suggestion. Maybe it's just me, but I like hearing suggestions and SOME of the debate. ALSO: Stay tuned. I have it on good authority that many QOL additions that have been requested by players over the years may make it in the next Issue!

I don't know of any game that gets much of it's content based off of player suggestions or that runs dev concepts through a suggestions forum to see what happens. If such a thing exists, I'd be interested to find out. I'll see if I can convince someone on the team to post one of their works-in-progress on the suggestions forum as an experiment. I doubt I'll get one. But assume we did. Do you think that the idea would not get implemented because some players critiqued it? I think our devs are thicker skinned and more determined than that, but I could be wrong. Either way, what would the experiment prove? Regarding "suprise" development. There were (and are) a sizeable number of players that suggested they wanted harder content and the devs, especially Cobalt Arachne, responded by creating 4 star content and the Labyrinth. While it didn't go through the suggestions forum gauntlet, it went through rounds of in house testing, then closed beta player testing, and open beta testing. While the general framework didn't change, a lot of the details did based on player feedback. I, personally, am not a fan of content that "forces" players to choose only certain ATs and powersets to engage with the content. But I understand that there are a lot of others who like that kind of stuff.

I have no idea what any or all devs see or think. But I have decided that I will no longer respond to you on this topic.

True, it was four or five years, but I specifically started at the end of the list, so I was only looking at the very oldest ones. I also later found one that took about a year -- make controller pets controllable.

* That GM was me. I did accept battlewraith's challenge to find any suggestion that had ever been implemented into the game and I found four that I provided links to before I got tired of looking and I was still in 2019 (This was in The Idea Police thread). I didn't count how many threads I looked through, and it was a very cursory search -- not at all scientific, or thorough. So please don't take what I wrote on this topic as anything authoritative. It may be 1% it may be 10% it may be .01%. I don't think anyone really knows. I also suggested that folks look at the long list of changes by Issue made by SCORE and HC and use their own memories to see that a lot of changes have taken place over the years that players have suggested. (https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Issues) And that doesn't include an even longer list of costume and base items that have been requested and added. Players should feel free to make whatever suggestions they want and other players can critique those ideas as long as they do so respectfully. Whatever the actual number is, I think it is fair and obvious to say that most suggestions will never make it into the game. That's not a slight at the people making suggestions. That's just practical and real. Not all suggestions should make it into the game. And even some great suggestions are too difficult or time consuming to be feasible.

You have two tanker characters named Iron-Psiren on Excelsior. The one with a hyphen is level 1. The one without the hyphen is level 6. Log back in and play one! 😁

There is no bright line rule that can be applied. The closer your character appears to be a copy of the intellectual property of someone else, the more likely you are to get the name and/or costume genericed. Homages and parodies are permitted by law. But the GMs are neither lawyers nor judges, and we will take action if we think it is too close, even if a player claims it as homage or parody. When GMs get a complaint or see a potentially infringing character, we frequently do share it with the other GMs to see if we can reach a consensus. And if you feel that a GMs action was unwarranted, you can appeal the decision to a Lead GM by filing a support ticket. (https://forums.homecomingservers.com/support/ or /petition in game)

Let's please leaving the reading comprehension failures, trolling, and accusations of trolling to Anna Kedrick and Justin Timberlake. Thank you.

I moved this to the Mission Architect forum, where the AE creators dwell.

Sometimes the topic IS Snarky.

Yes, please. Talk about the topic, not each other. Or in Snarky's case, himself.

Try: /macro_image "MarineAffinity_SoothingWave" "Heal" "face $$powexec_name Soothing Wave" No guarantees but that follows the general naming convention (which isn't always correct). Good luck!

Moved to see if the folks from Mids will see it here. They also have a Discord here: https://discord.gg/eAUuNQ3nxk and that's probably the fastest way to reach them.

That Clockwork King song was awesome. I saw that there were several other CoH themed songs in there. Now I have to go listen to them all.

That gave me a headache.

Bumping and necroing is frowned upon, but it's best left to the GMs. If you have a problem with a post, report it.

We do have an Announcements section. I moved this thread there to prove it. Also:

Less bickering and more polite discussion of the topic, please. To KB or not to KB, that is the question. B.E.T.E.O.

Can we please just post builds without personal attacks? Thanks.

That would lead to people starting the TF, getting lunch or taking a nap, then coming back to speed it to get maximum merits in least amount of time.