Bill Z Bubba

Or Dwarf form could be changed so that its mez protection lasts a few seconds after dropping from it so that you're not stuck in a permaheld state that all other melee archetypes avoid with ease.

Beyond being the stupidest use of that meme.... SR is SR. If Evasion can taunt enemies for 2 archetypes, it can do so for a third.

It's not jealousy, <text removed>. I have a tank and brute and scrapper version of Bill Z Bubba. There's no damn reason for the scrapper to have to deal with the idiotic runners when the brute and tank don't.

Rant to Follow: Time for a relevant story. Back before the snap, before the AT IOs, I did all the math and found brute damage was so damn close to scrapper damage while brutes had more HP (and thus more benefit from the scaling damres in SR, that it made absolutely ZERO sense for Bill Z Bubba to be inferior by being a scrapper so he got moved to another server and fully replaced by BZB Brute. It wasn't until the introduction of the scrapper +crit chance AT IOs that he was able to go back to being a scrapper. And now, with the tank AT IO granting 20.1 damres to all when triple stacked, BZB Brute has become completely superfluous. And then the SuperSecretPrivateServer or Homecoming introduced changes making everything run in terror all the fucking time so even BZB Brute with his inferior mitigation and inferior damage becomes more appealing than the scrapper just to avoid the nuisance created by the devs. I've no fucking clue WHY they changed mob fleeing mechanics but it sucks. It's NOT fun, it's NOT rational and it quite frankly drives me up the fucking wall with their silence on the issue, ESPECIALLY when coupled with the "let's rehash and propagate stone armor but we'll make sure it doesn't have a taunt aura for scrappers" mindset. Yea, I'm pissed about it. Just as I'm annoyed at the origin pools and their BS powers like Rune of Protection. But why NOT use the hell out of the Sorcery pool? It's freaking incredible for a controller with a single pet. Slap the revamped Enflame on Poopy the Animated Stone, keep him buffed Spirit Ward and let him go to town. Power Creep For The Win, Baby!

The same can be said for anyone not playing a tank. Massive unkillable mitigation, huge AoEs with damn near brute damage output while solo, constant mez protection, everything in this game is contemptible easy mode when you're a tank. So why play anything else? Cuz sometimes not being an immortal god is fun. I've seen ONE instance of a kheldian surprising me and he was a tri-form warshade running the Trapdoor challenge as posted in the scrapper forum. Every other interaction I've had with them, either as one or teamed with one, I've found them an inferior AT on the whole. Why on earth would anyone bother? The answer is the exact same for going human-only.

Or Rad/Claws Or Bio/Claws Or Inv/Claws with the Gaussian Chance for Build Up in Invincibility

Every single human only build out there, yes.

Meh. It's been an hour. I'm gonna go watch The Boys.

You might have read salt but there was none. But if you want there to be, ok. It's simple, attack chains without hasten are always inferior to those with it. It's just a fact of the game. In the end, it doesn't mean anything because someone will still get the same job done without hasten, they'll just do it slower.

Linea is awesome, indeed, but truth is truth.

Brewin coffee, about to be online. Let's get this over with.

ALL scrappers should get the same taunt aura as brutes. Full stop. The dev decision otherwise is based on a crap decision. Edit: I didn't used to care. But since the changes THEY made, runners are now a ridiculous and aggravating issue.

And that's why you're not running Clobber, Jawbreaker, Shatter, repeat for ST and Clobber, Shatter, Crowd Control repeat for AoE. But I get it, not all of us have a recharge addiction.

Minor quibble: Invul has 6 resist powers, 2 defense powers and a permable HP buff. Counterpoint: It's far more resist than defense and the psi hole becomes a joke when you 6 slot purples. Since Inv's defense scales with the number of enemies around you just as Will's regen does, it has the exact same interaction with Nrg Melee's ST orientation. Point to Will? No click but the T9. Point to Invul? It survives when Will doesn't. Both are inferior to SR which is inferior to Shield. Enjoy! 🙂

I grok this. I've got several nrg melee characters and grind my teeth at every corpse blast.

Aye. They'll have to nerf it for scrappers\stalkers as they did with Nrg and Stone Melee. Ya know... instead of just rebalancing the sets properly.

No Inca Strike? With enough recharge, you might get away with Inca, Radiant, Gleaming, Radiant... having to take boxing/kick to get cross punch up to speed sounds kinda wasteful. Let's see... Incandescent Strike Arcanatime 3.432sec Recharge 20sec Radiant Strike Arcanatime 1.32sec Recharge 10sec Gleaming Blast Arcanatime 1.848sec Recharge 8sec So Rad Strike needs to recharge in less than GB's 1.848 seconds. Oh... yea, that ain't happenin. What about IS, RS, GB, GE? Glinting Eye Arcanatime 1.848 Recharge 4sec Then we need IS to recharge in 1.32+1.848+1.848 = 5.016 seconds... needs 299% total recharge. That's very doable. And no need to take the fighting pool at all.

More random thoughts. Why does Elude still grant DDR when SR is capped without it? It should have been dumped and Elude completely changed when they disallowed permalude builds with ED and the GDN. I dislike the blood frenzy mechanic. Savage's first real AoE is rending flurry. If I use it at 5 stacks of BF, I can't build more BF so seeing the indicator pop up makes me NOT want to click it. Or I can waste brain space on watching the stacks and/or only click it when it's not lit up. It's a distraction. With claws, there's no thought. Just shreddin. At least savage leap doesn't cause exhaustion but at a 40sec base recharge time, it's not gonna be cycled into a regular attack chain worth a shit. Given that you face so many guns in the lowbie levels, which are ranged with defense debuffs, I can see why the OG devs chose to have agile show up before dodge, so maybe just swapping Evasion with Quickness would be acceptable. Maybe.

4.5 hours to level 20. Currently at +0/x4 w/ bosses and 100% solo. Two faceplants. First was when I didn't see that second Caliban, second was against a fresh spawn of Vahz. My fire/regen brute experiment faceplanted a hell of a lot more often by this point. Other than the power order, as covered earlier, and the uselessness of Elude in 99% of the content, I'm really not seeing a problem here. Last thing SR or this game needs is more power creep.

So the set with Quick Recovery is getting more out of Savage's endurance discount than SR with it's complete lack of endurance tools? I'll give you that SR needs no recharge, as Regen does, but of course, SR doesn't need the click heals that Regen so relies upon. I am on Excel. Same global name. How about some max diff carnies and arachnos? I'll bring my claws/sr main. Or if it's just the 30s you're worried about, you'll have to give me a day or two to get there on the new savage/sr. Edit: Or if ya like, we can go for broke and duo a max diff, no insps, no temps, no incarnate master run rules ITF.

And the backpedaling begins! Would you like me to use a different primary? It won't change anything.

14 at the 2.5 hr mark. Still 1 use of rest, a faceplant did occur... during Eagle Eye's personal story arc when I was someone else with only Rise to the Challenge instead of being SR. 🙂 That first longbow spawn was nasty. Taking a break now. More later to continue proving this abject silliness wrong cuz I enjoy doing so.

13. I used rest once! DOOOOOOOOM!

Level 12. Picked up CJ. 24.08% melee def, 30.94% range def, 2.31% aoe def. Still zero faceplants, zero uses of Rest. When does this start sucking again? Between 30 and 36? I'll get there eventually. But I'll probably start doin radio missions to avoid the damn hunt X in another zone missions.

Total side note apropos of nothing, my new savage/sr scrapper is now 11, street hunted to 7, Shauna's Skulls arc to 11 so far, zero Rests, zero faceplants, nothing but SOs, no amplifiers, dbl-xp enabled. Whole hour and a half with three smoke breaks. The horror. I'm drinking, too, so maybe this'll be my night. Guess I wasn't done.