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I didn't include it because it is a patch, not a PBAoE. It is useful, but won't have the effect I'm looking for unless I stand still... I'll have to look into DpS and effects later.

I'm using the elemental energy shield to go with my vanguard blade on a BS/SD toon. There are other elemental options that are pretty cool, as well as Tech 1/2, Ascendant full/half, Rularoo, Vanguard, and Tech Knight shields for the tech flavor...

I just caught that and was correcting just before you posted. Sorry, my bad...

I was playing my spines/regen scrapper, and got to thinking about damage auras... Spines is the only Primary with a damage aura (5.16 lethal dps, -speed, -recharge), but there are five secondaries that come with damage auras... Was wondering if y'all would help me choose for my next Spines/* scrapper... *Radiation Melee has a pseudo-aura (Irradiated Ground) which drops patches as you walk. I will add the dps when I go in-game, but it does have a -Def, which is nice. Bio Armor actually has one Genetic Contamination (4.69 toxic dps, -damage). Dark Armor has one, Death Shroud (6.26 Negative dps) Electric Armor has one as well, Lightning Field (6.26 Energy dps, -Endurance) Fiery Aura has the most damaging damage aura, Blazing Aura (6.88 Fire dps) Ice Armor has one as well (6.26 Lethal dps) So these are my choices... which one would y'all take? I am leaning towards a Spines/Bio to have two damage auras with lots of debuffs and buffs and decent recovery, but I wanna hear about anyone who has run with multiple damage auras, experiences, etc.

First off, I usually do not join in on bandwagon sets. If something is popular before I try it, I generally won't try it. However, I started playing with BS・SD because I got an endgame build that I like. This is also one of the few builds I did not take Hasten on because it really isn't needed. I have placate in this build, but placate is not as needed as it is with other stalker primaries. I have also ended up taking a lot of toggles (almost a full power-bar worth), but should be endurance manageable with the amount of recovery in the build. I also am basically using One with the Shield as a mule, because I don't think I will need a panic button with this build. I have Agility Total Radial Revamp set as my Alpha, that should complement this build and make it even better. Anyway, I am trying it out, and so far it seems to be living up to the hype... Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Hacken Slash: Level 50 Magic Stalker Primary Power Set: Broad Sword Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense Power Pool: Concealment Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Weapon Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Hack (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (3) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (5) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (7) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 1: Hide (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 2: Slice (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (9) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (9) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (11) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (13) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 4: Deflection (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance Level 6: Assassin's Slash (A) Superior Assassin's Mark - RechargeTime/Rchg Build Up (17) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Superior Assassin's Mark - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (23) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (25) Superior Assassin's Mark - Damage/RechargeTime (25) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage Level 8: Battle Agility (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 10: True Grit (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (27) Aegis - Resistance (43) Miracle - +Recovery (43) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (46) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance Level 12: Placate (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 14: Stealth (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (50) Shield Wall - Defense Level 16: Active Defense (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 18: Parry (A) Superior Stalker's Guile - Recharge/Chance to Hide (19) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (19) Superior Stalker's Guile - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (21) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage Level 20: Against All Odds (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 22: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 24: Boxing (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff (37) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (40) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge (40) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (42) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge Level 26: Disembowel (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (33) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (33) Achilles' Heel - Defense Debuff/Recharge Level 28: Tough (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (37) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (42) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (43) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 30: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 32: Head Splitter (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 35: Shield Charge (A) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Physical Perfection (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (46) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 41: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) (42) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 44: Cross Punch (A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback (45) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (45) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Stupefy - Stun/Range (48) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance (50) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun Level 47: Maneuvers (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (48) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (50) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 49: One with the Shield (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 1: Assassination Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (29) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (39) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (45) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (29) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 50: Agility Total Radial Revamp ------------

I think Suppressive Fire and Hail of Bullets may keep their KB/KD.

I think that there are some builds that can be maximized without Hasten... On the other hand, most builds are better with Hasten...

Basically you have three options: Chemical Munitions: -Damage and a damage type that most targets have minimal resistance to Cryo Munitions: Extra range and a slow for a more snipery feel Incendiary Munitions: Extra Damage (20-25%) So, basically you have four choices, Use the standard munitions for KB/KD, -Def, -Res effects that are good for most fights. Use chemical munitions to increase survivability for yourself and your team. Use cryo munitions to stay out of the fray and keep your targets from spreading too much. Use incendiary munitions if you have a teammate that is dropping debuff bombs like a boss and you are just there for the damage. Incendiary is more useful for blasters while cryo is more useful for sentinels, I would say. To be honest, I really like the effects of standard munitions... In fact, I would actually argue that they should end effect suppression to make Swap Ammo more appealing, because as is, it is actually pretty skippable. Pistols according to Mids(Pine's) [Pine's currently has an error where it shows a resist debuff for Pistols and Dual Wield - removed for this post]: Standard: 9.65 DPS -7% Defense Toxic: 9.65 DPS -5.6% Damage Cryo: 9.65 DPS -12% Recharge -12% Speed Incindiary: 11.78 DPS

There are some areas that do not (Fitness is now inherent), some of it is personal preference (taking Barb Swipe or Lunge is a matter of preference, Barb Swipe has better DPS, but Lunge hits harder as a single attack), and the comments on quills doesn't quite work because of all the +Endurance you get from Regen. Overall, however, it is a decent guide to start you on the path. I recently put up my current spines/regen build that I am still tinkering with, take a look if you have time, it is not the be-all, end-all Spines/Regen build, but can let you see what is possible.

Alright, I am building a Spines/Regen scrapper. I am trying to get sufficient AoE DPS while maintaining survivibility. I have decided to go with Soul Mastery over Body Mastery because a snipe, a huge defense buff (half the time), and a pet were better than throwing a cherry on top of my regen. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Spyqe: Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: Spines Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Barb Swipe (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage Level 1: Fast Healing (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (5) Panacea - Heal (7) Miracle - +Recovery (15) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (17) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (43) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration Level 2: Spine Burst (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (36) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge Level 4: Reconstruction (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (5) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 6: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 8: Impale (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (9) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (11) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge Level 10: Dull Pain (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (13) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 14: Boxing (A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback (43) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (45) Stupefy - Stun/Range (46) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance (46) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun Level 16: Integration (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (17) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (46) Numina's Convalesence - Heal Level 18: Quills (A) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc (19) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (21) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (25) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (31) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage Level 20: Resilience (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (21) Aegis - Resistance Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (23) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 26: Ripper (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (27) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (27) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (29) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge Level 28: Instant Healing (A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge (29) Doctored Wounds - Heal (34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge (36) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 32: Throw Spines (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge Level 35: Revive (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge Level 38: Moment of Glory (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (39) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (39) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist Level 41: Moonbeam (A) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic) (42) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Interrupt/Recharge (42) Sting of the Manticore - Accuracy/Interrupt/Range (43) Sting of the Manticore - Accuracy/Damage Level 44: Shadow Meld (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 47: Summon Widow (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (48) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge Level 49: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (3) Preventive Medicine - Heal Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod ------------

I generally take Body Mastery because it plays to Regen's strengths Also, there are so many procs for Regen, you can never have enough regen auto powers... For the stamina, I take Performance Shifter (chance for +End and Endurance Mod) to get a good chunk of End and some mobility. The chance for +End proc is actually better than Endurance mod on Stamina and Physical Perfection.

I'd replace sound grenade with lullaby... For the oscillating aura, you may want to consider how that would interact with Hurricane from Storm... For uproar, may want to look at something like crushing field, but as a PBAoE rather than a targetted AoE.

BrandX, they do not currently show up. I don't have them slotted in my current build, but suggested changing slots in another post.

Or try out Bio Armor... Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Gobbledygook: Level 50 Natural Scrapper Primary Power Set: Claws Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Swipe (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (3) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (5) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (34) Hecatomb - Damage Level 1: Hardened Carapace (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (7) Aegis - Resistance Level 2: Inexhaustible (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 4: Environmental Modification (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 6: Spin (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (9) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (9) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (11) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff Level 8: Follow Up (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (13) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage Level 10: Adaptation Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 14: Boxing (A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback (25) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge (45) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (45) Stupefy - Stun/Range (46) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance (46) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun Level 16: Ablative Carapace (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (17) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (43) Panacea - Heal Level 18: Focus (A) Decimation - Chance of Build Up (19) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (19) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (21) Decimation - Damage/Recharge (21) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage Level 20: Evolving Armor (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (23) Aegis - Resistance (25) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 26: Eviscerate (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (27) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (29) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (36) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance Level 28: DNA Siphon (A) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (31) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (31) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (50) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 32: Shockwave (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge Level 35: Genetic Contamination (A) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc (36) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (40) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (46) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage Level 38: Focused Accuracy (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 41: Physical Perfection (A) Miracle - +Recovery (42) Miracle - Heal (42) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (42) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 44: Parasitic Aura (A) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance (45) Theft of Essence - Healing/Recharge Level 47: Stealth (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (48) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (48) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 49: Super Jump (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (7) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (43) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (43) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 10: Defensive Adaptation Level 10: Efficient Adaptation Level 10: Offensive Adaptation ------------

You could still try Regen... it is still a decent set... Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Gobbledygook: Level 50 Natural Scrapper Primary Power Set: Claws Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Swipe (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (3) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (5) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge Level 1: Fast Healing (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (7) Preventive Medicine - Heal (40) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (40) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 2: Reconstruction (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 4: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 6: Spin (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (9) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (9) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (11) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff Level 8: Follow Up (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (13) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage Level 10: Dull Pain (A) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (34) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (46) Recharge Reduction IO Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (48) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 14: Boxing (A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback (25) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge (45) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (45) Stupefy - Stun/Range (46) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance (46) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun Level 16: Integration (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (17) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (43) Panacea - Heal Level 18: Focus (A) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc (19) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (21) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (23) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage Level 20: Resilience (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (23) Aegis - Resistance (25) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 26: Eviscerate (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (27) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (29) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (36) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance Level 28: Instant Healing (A) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (31) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (31) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (50) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 32: Shockwave (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge Level 35: Revive (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Focused Accuracy (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 41: Physical Perfection (A) Miracle - +Recovery (42) Miracle - Heal (42) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (42) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 44: Moment of Glory (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge Level 47: Stealth (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 49: Super Jump (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (7) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (43) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (43) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod ------------

Ill/Storm has more pets...

With certain secondaries, like Regen, you really need it to get Dull Pain perma and Instant Healing on a reasonable timer. On my DP/Nin I need to get Piercing Rounds to 4.224s to optimize my attack chain for -def and -res, Hasten is necessary for that. To get perma-lightform Peacebringers, you need Hasten. To get perma-PA for an illusion controller, you need hasten... There are some builds where I don't use it, but recharge is king in CoH, so that is why you see it so often. On the other hand, there are plenty of builds out there that don't need that much recharge...

Alright, I'm playing with my spines/regen scrapper and I am trying to get 130% HP and 800+ Regen without activating Instant Healing or Dull Pain... If possible I would also like it to have perma-dull pain and be functionally playable... Does anyone have thoughts on this project?

No worries, It would be great if they could make a hero designer app...

gmredux, That is already slotted, and I already noted that I was unsure as to whether it was possible. I may try it out tonight.

My plan is to basically go without a travel power, but I have two extra power slots... ( I actually moved paralizing dart and kemuridama up to slip mystic flight into the 47 slot). Mystic flight is a random just-for-fun travel power that requires minimal slotting, and Kuji-in retsu is a mule. I can dump either... I could drop the +Def LotGs from Ninja Reflexes, Danger Sense, Maneuvers, and Weave, RD-Scaling Res from Shinobi-iri, and possibly the +HP or +Absorb procs from Health to free up some Enhancement Slots. That means a maximum of 7 slots while dropping my actual regen, hp, and defense (which would still be over 40). Stealth may be an option, but I am unsure whether it conflicts with Shinobi-iri. This would allow me to take Flurry and slot it with Disorient IOs to get an extra 6.25 recharge to bring hasten to 120.5 recharge and the stealth would get me to 44.8 Def when in combat 46.5 out of combat (if stealth can stack with Shinobi-iri). However I would be increasing endurance drain and losing the +HP and +Absorb procs for 1.1s of improved performance from Hasten... That's the problem when you get builds to this level, there are no wasted enhancement slots, so it becomes about sacrifices. I like having the Hail of Bullets small panic button and the Kuji-in big panic button to fall back on, but they aren't necessary (although I do need a place for the Superior Sentinel's Ward IOs). Mystic flight gives me vertical mobility and is just a fun power to use, but it isn't necessary. So here I am, not sure if this is the end-state of this build, or if I can find a place to squeeze out a little performance. I should probably consider an Alpha and see how that plays out...

Yup, similar boat. This looks very similar to something I started with. That first run was very apprehensive about giving up Defensive O, but it really just isn't an issue after a certain point. So I'm going to see about shuffling things to find out if I like Ninja Tools again. I really don't feel like a Ninja without a smoke bomb. :( I see your point, but seeing as my theme is John Woo, the ninja tools aren't necessary... That being said... I'm wondering which you think is the best option: the current scaling resist proc that I placed in Shinobi-Iri, Celerity +Run to make me faster and give 2.5 S/L Res, or adding a third recharge to Hasten to get perma-hasten? Also, I took Mystic Flight because it is such a cool travel power (that doesn't conflict with Shinobi-Iri), but it really doesn't match the theme... keep or replace? with what?

Alright, did a little more tweaking, and actually decided to go below soft-cap. I ended up dropping Psi epic and adopting Ninja Tool Mastery, the Taishibishi and Kemuridama are nice touches, and I don't have to worry about the almost 4s animation time of Link Minds. Still a little shy of perma-hasten, but I think it should give me more tools... Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Woo: Level 50 Magic Sentinel Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Sorcery Ancillary Pool: Ninja Tool Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Pistols (A) Decimation - Chance of Build Up (9) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (13) Decimation - Damage/Recharge (13) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage (15) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 1: Ninja Reflexes (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 2: Danger Sense (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 4: Boxing (A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback (15) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun (25) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (40) Stupefy - Stun/Range (46) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance Level 6: Shinobi-Iri (A) Celerity - +Stealth (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (50) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 8: Swap Ammo Level 10: Kuji-In Rin (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 12: Suppressive Fire (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (40) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (45) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge Level 14: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 16: Seishinteki Kyoyo (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge Level 18: Executioner's Shot (A) Superior Opportunity Strikes - RechargeTime/Chance for Opportunity (19) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (23) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 20: Kuji-In Sha (A) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 26: Piercing Rounds (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (27) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (27) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (29) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (45) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 28: Bo Ryaku (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (31) Aegis - Resistance (31) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (31) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 30: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (39) Recharge Reduction IO Level 32: Hail of Bullets (A) Superior Sentinel's Ward - RechargeTime/Chance for +Absorb (33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Damage/RechargeTime (39) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage Level 35: Blinding Powder (A) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion (36) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance (36) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge (37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge (40) Coercive Persuasion - Confused Level 38: Tashibishi (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage Level 41: Mystic Flight (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 44: Paralizing Dart (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Chance for Recharge Slow (46) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold (46) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (48) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold Level 47: Kemuridama (A) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (48) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (50) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge Level 49: Kuji-In Retsu (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (3) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (3) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration (5) Miracle - +Recovery (5) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (7) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 8: Cryo Ammunition Level 8: Incendiary Ammunition Level 8: Chemical Ammunition ------------

Has anyone checked in-game whether Suppressive Fire takes Hold enhancements? It doesn't seem like it ought to. Anyway, I was playing with my build again, trying to get the Executioner's Shot -> Pistols -> Piercing Rounds -> Pistols chain optimized... I gave up some range by giving up frankenslotting with the ATOs, and I rearranged my slotting to improve general performance... I did the math, and having Decimation in Pistols gives me an 8% higher damage output than having Apocalypse, because the build-up will be up a quarter of the time... I'm still not 100% sure on the calculations for using straight ammo v incendiary or toxic, but it seems that the -Def and -Res would be a better choice v AVs. I have, however, slotted -Res procs in the three abilities for my primary chain. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Woo: Level 50 Magic Sentinel Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Sorcery Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Pistols (A) Decimation - Chance of Build Up (9) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (13) Decimation - Damage/Recharge (13) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage (15) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 1: Ninja Reflexes (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 2: Danger Sense (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 4: Boxing (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 6: Shinobi-Iri (A) Celerity - +Stealth (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 8: Swap Ammo Level 10: Kuji-In Rin (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 12: Suppressive Fire (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (40) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge Level 14: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 16: Seishinteki Kyoyo (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge Level 18: Executioner's Shot (A) Superior Opportunity Strikes - RechargeTime/Chance for Opportunity (19) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (40) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 20: Kuji-In Sha (A) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (23) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (25) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 26: Piercing Rounds (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (27) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (27) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (29) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (46) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 28: Bo Ryaku (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (31) Aegis - Resistance (31) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (31) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 30: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (40) Recharge Reduction IO Level 32: Hail of Bullets (A) Superior Sentinel's Ward - RechargeTime/Chance for +Absorb (33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Damage/RechargeTime (39) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage Level 35: Blinding Powder (A) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion (36) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance (36) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge (37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 41: Mass Hypnosis (A) Call of the Sandman - Chance of Heal Self (42) Call of the Sandman - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge (42) Call of the Sandman - Sleep/Range (42) Call of the Sandman - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Call of the Sandman - Endurance/Sleep Level 44: Dominate (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Chance for Recharge Slow (45) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (45) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (45) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold Level 47: Link Minds (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (48) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime (48) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime (48) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (50) Reactive Defenses - Defense Level 49: Mystic Flight (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (3) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (3) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration (5) Miracle - +Recovery (5) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (7) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 8: Cryo Ammunition Level 8: Incendiary Ammunition Level 8: Chemical Ammunition ------------

Alright, I am working on this concept for a toon, and roughly mapping out the powers. My first question is, which powers in these sets are the most skippable. My next question is which epic? Any other tips?