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You are telling people to accept mediocrity based on the notion that things could always be worse. On the other end of the spectrum, I could say that if it doesn’t match their best work, it sucks. Most of the time, I don’t think people involved with the process set out to make a bad movie - and I don’t know if this one is bad - I’m arguing against your notion that people should “shut up and like it, because look at what came before” - I’m not arguing that this is a good/bad movie because I don’t know. I refuse to accept any type of mediocrity. If they want me to continue spending my hard earned money on what they release, they better entertain me.

It absolutely is not. In any way, shape or form. Telling someone they have to accept crap because it used to be so much worse, is an asinine argument to try and make. When it comes time for a raise at your job, would you accept being told “you used to make minimum wage, so be happy with these 2 extra pennies” ?? Would you smile and say, “gee, thanks boss. You’re the greatest!” For the record, I haven’t seen Thunderbolts yet, and have no opinion on whether it will be good or not.

To say “be happy with anything better than the absolute worst” is a sh1t argument.

I think there’s a big difference between being amazed, and thinking a movie is good. After watching a movie, if I think back on it and go “enjoyable, but nothing great - to me, that’s average. That’s a C. If the best compliment I can come up with after watching a movie is “well, it wasn’t bad” - too me, that’s below average. If I suddenly changed “it wasn’t bad” to average, I’ve just lowered my expectations. With the cost to go see a movie going up, why should the quality of a movie be able to go down? Could you imagine what would happen if movie reviews set the price of a movie?

That’s worrisome. Once “it’s wasn’t too bad” becomes the acceptable norm, we are screwed as moviegoers.

No to removing aggro caps. However, I would like to see mob sizes increased

Because that was her defining character trait. She held the team together. Just like yours is to find ways to argue with everyone here on this board, and always get the last word in. If they make a Battlewraith movie that features a main character that does not have those traits - I’ll be equally as upset.

Ahhh, my old man memory has failed me again!!! In that case, they damn sure better not have Heather leading the team when the movie finally gets made!

You may be missing the point of what is meant by “modern audience”. They aren’t referring to this generation of movie goers. They are referring to a subset that is either too small, or just doesn’t care enough to watch these movies. Movies like Snow White. Ghostbusters. Charlie’s Angels. The Marvels. The video game industry is struggling bad over their push to ignore gamers and cater to the “modern audience” As for updating the source material. I am all for that. However, changing characters is not “updating source material”. Its change for the sake of change. It’s making characters unrecognizable to fans of those particular characters. Anyways, it’s all just speculation based off rumors. I’m looking forward to the movie, for now.

Heather (his wife) was the leader from issue #1. Yes James created it, but he was not part of the story (except in flashbacks). He was already dead by time the story started, which was a big part of the story and why she became the hero she became. I do not want that changed - I want the characters, the team and the dynamic I grew up reading about. If it’s really that hard for you to understand, no amount of explaining is going to change your mind. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Simple. She’s not the leader. Reed is. It goes back to what I was saying earlier. If they want a team with a strong woman leading, those teams exist and are/were popular - make those movies instead of changing the dynamic to appeal to an audience that has proven to not exist. I loved Alpha Flight and would be equally against them not having Jennifer Hudson leading the team. She was the leader - that’s what I expect to see. That’s what I want to see. I’m positive that’s what other fans would want to see. That is if they ever get off their asses and get the movie made

Most comic origin stories were ridiculous, as were most stories written for children. I don’t put any thought into it or let it bother me. The basis is the discussion that spawned from the unsubstantiated rumors about the movie. Nothing was to be taken as fact (which I mentioned earlier) - it was just a “what if this is true” scenario.

Im a little confused by the point you’re trying to make. Is it impossible to update the story without completely throwing everything about the characters and team dynamic out the window? I completely understand not making her the “housewife who tags along and does whatever her big strong man tells her”. But is there not something in between that, and “boss lady with no weaknesses who runs the show because men stupid” ?? How do we go from one extreme to the other? More importantly, why keep going to the extreme when audiences are not buying?

I seriously doubt people are upset that Sue isn’t going to be “talked down to” by Reed. That’s just a ridiculous statement to make. I think it’s more the fact that he has always been the leader of the team. Sue held them together as a family, but when it came to strategy and battles - it was Reed calling the shots. If that’s changed, I can understand people being disappointed - especially for fans of the character.

One post wonder 🤭🤭🤭

What @ThaOGDreamWeaver?!? Pugsley was in the first episode. He was being bullied, which Wednesday dealt with - resulting in her being kicked out of school

If the rumors are true - it’s an odd decision because Marvel already have a team that checks all the boxes they supposedly are checking for this movie - The original Alpha Flight.

I seriously doubt people left in droves because the aggro cap was put into place. As for “fun”. Fun for who? The tank and blasters? oh yippee 🙄🙄🙄

That’s one change some fans are voicing concerns over. I don’t mind it and am curious how it plays out. The other changes are character personality changes…. Johnnie is no longer a brash womanizing playboy. Sue is a strong independent woman who actually leads the team. Ben is….shall we say…..there may be an Alan Masters instead of an Alicia. I don’t know if any or all of this is true. Could be a misunderstanding of what a couple of the stars have said recently. Could also just be the Marvel haters twisting what was said in order to try and tank the movie. We won’t know until it comes out.

Where’s my merits for reading your complaint??

Yes - also check out 11 Rebels. Its another one I’m looking forward to

Finished watching the entire series over the past couple of days. There were things I liked - the action sequences. The fact it didn’t seem too long, unlike the original Netflix series. I always thought each of those seasons could have been split in half. Also liked the overall story. What I didn’t like Anyways, I definitely can’t wait for the next season.

I suddenly like the idea!

I’m glad it’s over. Oh yeah, and glad I won’t hear about it for another year.

I don’t like it, simply because I can’t pronounce the name. Yes, I’m petty like that!