thespiritfox2 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) What did I create... Mids shows different from the game so...game stats. 2052 HP no accolades yet 3.81% recovery in attack stance Resistance in defensive 69% s/l 27% fire/cold 10% en/neg 19% psionic 42% toxic Defense in defensive Melee 39% Ranged 22% AoE 24% 43.4% S/L 48% F/C 40.85% En/Neg 27% psionic Hasten is pretty close to perma, your clickies are not, but you do not really need them to be with this build. Tanked through +4x8 ITF zero problem, has handled every regular mission I've thrown at it without any issue. Massive bursts of en/neg all at once can down you quick if you get really unlucky, happened once in ITF trying to kill a shadow shard without killing it's guards. This is the tankiest I could make TW/Bio. Designed to survive just about anything before you touch incarnates. You might not hold aggro like a tank, but you can take hits just as well as most of them can. I'm fairly close to someone's invulnerability build numbers and this is before /bio's buffs to resistance for enemies close by. Ran a bunch of portal av missions and nothing in any of them could put much of a dent in me with this build. It cost about 600m at current market prices including me having 4 Armageddon recipes that dropped for me and paying 50 million for the one copy of the damn recipe available for the fifth lol. Oh, the one hole this build truly seems to have besides tanking serious energy/neg being risky without heals/buffs, is accuracy. Even with tactics running, when build up is off at times I whiff a bit at +4s. Taking the -def debuff interface to help with that solo. Can run you dry on endurance in attack and defensive if you're slamming away with your weapons for all you're worth. Stopping your attacks for 5 seconds while in efficient mode will half fill your endurance bar. TW is hungry, but /bio provides. You can generally come pretty close to attacking forever in efficient stance. With T3 barrier you're functionally immortal, barrier will more than bridge the recharge time of your clickies in a pinch. Those pinches do not happen often and this build still puts up some very respectable damage numbers. Built for tanking and recharge stacking, but you could totally move a few slots around if you wanted and proc some things out. The taunt/damage aura in bio that I have overwhelming force in is hilarious. If there are 20 enemies near me it starts to look like bonfire. Change that into a 6 slot damage proc mule and I could see this build turning into a true room blender and helping alot with the cone aoes you have to deal with with TW/ And yes, I took defensive sweep. 54% melee defense. I wanted to be able to tank incarnate material. This is the build to get you there. And people do have a hard time tearing avs off of me. Holding group aggro is a pipe dream, but tanking a single big baddie works really well. Note: The entire build is attuned. Exemplars really really well and some of the sets used were sub 50 max levels so a few catalysts and alot of buying attuned on the AH later and the whole build is attuned enhancements save like swift and hurdle and the recharge IOs in things. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.5https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Rex Power Colt: Level 50 Mutation BrutePrimary Power Set: Titan WeaponsSecondary Power Set: Bio ArmorPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: Leadership Hero Profile:Level 1: Defensive Sweep -- Arm-Acc/Rchg(A), Arm-Dmg(3), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(5)Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Max HP%(9)Level 2: Titan Sweep -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg(9), Obl-Acc/Rchg(11), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(11), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19)Level 4: Inexhaustible -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Pnc-Heal(13)Level 6: Environmental Modification -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(13), Rct-Def/EndRdx(15), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Rct-Def/Rchg(17), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)Level 8: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(17)Level 10: Adaptation Level 12: Build Momentum -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 14: Follow Through -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(21), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(23)Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- Pnc-Heal(A), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(25), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(27), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(27), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(29)Level 18: Rend Armor -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(33), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 20: Evolving Armor -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Ags-ResDam(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(36)Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23)Level 24: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 26: Whirling Smash -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(37)Level 28: DNA Siphon -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(40), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(42), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43), NmnCnv-Heal(43)Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(31), ImpArm-ResPsi(31)Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(46), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(50)Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A)Level 38: Parasitic Aura -- Pnc-Heal(A), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(39), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(40)Level 41: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42), LucoftheG-Def(42)Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)Level 47: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48)Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(46)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(43), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(45), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(46)Level 1: Momentum Level 10: Defensive Adaptation Level 10: Efficient Adaptation Level 10: Offensive Adaptation ------------ Edited October 17, 2019 by thespiritfox2
Seigmoraig Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 You should try this build as a Scrapper. Saying this since you are well under the resist cap for Brutes anyway, you might as well try it as Scrapper and have more consistent damage. You would probably lose a bit of HP doing so, but it's worth the look imo
roleki Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 I've got the Scrapper version of this, and Defensive Sweep is an MVP. I use it as the cooldown for other attacks, and basically you only get hit when the attack comes from range or when you're mopping up the straggling bosses from the last 4 or 5 mobs you mowed through. CEOs come and go, and one just went/The ingredients you got bake the cake you get
TheSpiritFox Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 1:14 PM, Seigmoraig said: You should try this build as a Scrapper. Saying this since you are well under the resist cap for Brutes anyway, you might as well try it as Scrapper and have more consistent damage. You would probably lose a bit of HP doing so, but it's worth the look imo I'm under the resist cap with no enemies around me. /Bio gets more resistance when surrounded by enemies, when using parasitic aura, or lol when I use barrier because I basically only use efficient mode now. +25% damage is nothing compared to -20% endurance on a TW brute. The difference between ooming after a few attack cycles or never, ever running out of endurance without sapping mobs in the mix. But yeah, I wanted a tank who's not a tank.
Seigmoraig Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 15 hours ago, TheSpiritFox said: I'm under the resist cap with no enemies around me. /Bio gets more resistance when surrounded by enemies, when using parasitic aura, or lol when I use barrier because I basically only use efficient mode now. +25% damage is nothing compared to -20% endurance on a TW brute. The difference between ooming after a few attack cycles or never, ever running out of endurance without sapping mobs in the mix. But yeah, I wanted a tank who's not a tank. I think you are doing something wrong if you run out of Endo, I can farm non-stop in AE with my TW/Bio Scrapper in Offensive Adaptation and never run out of gas (or have to use blue cookies). I hit DNA Siphon every fight and the +recovery from that lets me spam all night long
TheSpiritFox Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) I had to go check, it does indeed provide recovery. I didn't know that, I thought it was just endurance/health like a combo consume. I assume that recovery is per target hit so hit it at the start of a fight ... got it. Lol I'm still mastering /bio. It's a surprisingly nuanced set. Also I slotted my attacks out with not too much endurance reduction. Getting my sets where I wanted required I compromise a few slots on some of the less hard hitting attacks. If only /bio had some throwaway powers lol. Edited October 22, 2019 by TheSpiritFox
Haijinx Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 2:14 PM, Seigmoraig said: You should try this build as a Scrapper. Saying this since you are well under the resist cap for Brutes anyway, you might as well try it as Scrapper and have more consistent damage. You would probably lose a bit of HP doing so, but it's worth the look imo Or considering the new Tanker changes, a Tanker. The AT change should bump up the resists
Seigmoraig Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Haijinx said: Or considering the new Tanker changes, a Tanker. The AT change should bump up the resists For sure I'll be rolling a TW tanker when the changes hit ! 14 hours ago, TheSpiritFox said: had to go check, it does indeed provide recovery. I didn't know that, I thought it was just endurance/health like a combo consume. I assume that recovery is per target hit so hit it at the start of a fight ... got it. Lol I'm still mastering /bio. It's a surprisingly nuanced set. Also I slotted my attacks out with not too much endurance reduction. Getting my sets where I wanted required I compromise a few slots on some of the less hard hitting attacks. If only /bio had some throwaway powers lol. Yes it is a surprisingly deep set with a variety of ways to go about it. I sometimes switch out to Defensive mode when I am doing incarnate content for certain encounters when I see I am dropping but usually I try to stay in Offensive for that sweet sweet 25% damage buff to stack on top of my sweet sweet crits 😛 The only major difference I have between my build and yours (other than scrapper ATO of course) is that I have Defensive Sweep unslotted. The only thing in it is a Luck of the Gambler +haste IO, since Defensive Sweep does so little damage anyway, and I only really use it for the +Def I rather have those slots elsewhere. The +acc from my other set bonuses and the +dmg from T3 or T4 Musculature Core bring it up to an acceptable level. I just use Titan Sweep, Whirling Smash and Arc of Destruction as my AoE rotation. Defensive Sweep I only use at the start of fights to help on the Alpha Strikes Also, instead of Tactics, I have Crushing Blow. I used to run Assault but I found that extra Leadership toggle pushed me over the edge and I could not keep up with the end drain. Maybe this is where your end problems stem from ? Edited October 23, 2019 by Seigmoraig
TheSpiritFox Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Seigmoraig said: For sure I'll be rolling a TW tanker when the changes hit ! Yes it is a surprisingly deep set with a variety of ways to go about it. I sometimes switch out to Defensive mode when I am doing incarnate content for certain encounters when I see I am dropping but usually I try to stay in Offensive for that sweet sweet 25% damage buff to stack on top of my sweet sweet crits 😛 The only major difference I have between my build and yours (other than scrapper ATO of course) is that I have Defensive Sweep unslotted. The only thing in it is a Luck of the Gambler +haste IO, since Defensive Sweep does so little damage anyway, and I only really use it for the +Def I rather have those slots elsewhere. The +acc from my other set bonuses and the +dmg from T3 or T4 Musculature Core bring it up to an acceptable level. I just use Titan Sweep, Whirling Smash and Arc of Destruction as my AoE rotation. Defensive Sweep I only use at the start of fights to help on the Alpha Strikes Also, instead of Tactics, I have Crushing Blow. I used to run Assault but I found that extra Leadership toggle pushed me over the edge and I could not keep up with the end drain. Maybe this is where your end problems stem from ? Its very possible, I think I run 9 toggles including tough and weave. However, between parasitic aura and DNA siphon If one of them is up I don't OOM. Ive also somewhat figured out that part of my mana issues are that anything less than +4 or incarnate I can tank without my clickies, and without my clickies.... 1
Sovera Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 11:10 PM, TheSpiritFox said: I had to go check, it does indeed provide recovery. I didn't know that, I thought it was just endurance/health like a combo consume. I assume that recovery is per target hit so hit it at the start of a fight ... got it. Lol I'm still mastering /bio. It's a surprisingly nuanced set. Also I slotted my attacks out with not too much endurance reduction. Getting my sets where I wanted required I compromise a few slots on some of the less hard hitting attacks. If only /bio had some throwaway powers lol. The difference with DNA Siphon lies in that if you use it on live targets it grants Endurance, but if you use it on corpses it provides with Recovery. So once you kill a spawn, pop DNA Siphon and you'll be full of blue juice. In practical terms it's probably best to use it after the initial volley of AoEs that killed all minions (corpses despawn after a few seconds, so the minions will have disappeared by the time the lieutenants and bosses have been killed). This makes for very easy use while doing regular content but falters once hitting something for a few minutes since the Endurance part of DNA Siphon barely pays for its activation against a single live target. - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.
TheSpiritFox Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Sovera said: The difference with DNA Siphon lies in that if you use it on live targets it grants Endurance, but if you use it on corpses it provides with Recovery. So once you kill a spawn, pop DNA Siphon and you'll be full of blue juice. In practical terms it's probably best to use it after the initial volley of AoEs that killed all minions (corpses despawn after a few seconds, so the minions will have disappeared by the time the lieutenants and bosses have been killed). This makes for very easy use while doing regular content but falters once hitting something for a few minutes since the Endurance part of DNA Siphon barely pays for its activation against a single live target. Oh so I have to hit corpses with it to get endurance? Another thing that I didn't know about it... I need to go reread all the power descriptions.
Sovera Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, TheSpiritFox said: Oh so I have to hit corpses with it to get endurance? Another thing that I didn't know about it... I need to go reread all the power descriptions. *recovery - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.
Papaschtroumpf Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) I decided to do without Defensive Sweep on my build because it was only Smashing and Melee, not even Lethal, and I had other ways to Max out S/L and Melee both (I took WP instead of Bio though) It did feel like I wasn't really taking advantage of the set though. Edited November 12, 2019 by Papaschtroumpf
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