Underfyre Posted February 20, 2020 Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Welcome to the Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet v2.7, Issue 28, Page 1. Not a ton of changes to Sentinels, so I wasn't in a big rush to make edits. That and I felt slighted by the admin team when they unpinned the Collab Project without even bringing it up to one of its primary contributors. Anyway, the change to Fire Blast > Flares increased the "baseline" dps by 2, but no other rotation used Flares so they were unchanged. However, Energy Blast > Power Burst was a central power, so now Energy Blast is the absolute worst set you can play again. I guess everyone needs a set to trash on just like everyone needs an Archetype to trash on. Why not give the people an easy target. Rack and Stack is updated from the last sheet. Since Energy Blast plummeted back to the bottom, everyone that was below has shifted up in accordance, and Energy has taken its rightful place at the bottom. Anyway, have fun. How to use this sheet: Make a copy on your Google Drive, drop in your own enhancement values and procs, twist all the knobs you want and see what yields an increase in damage. Will this set work better with this power or that power? Find out. Is it worth it to make your enhancements +5? Find out. Note: Don't bother trying to export it to Excel, Excel won't be able to handle much of anything correctly because of the types of formulas used and the use of checkboxes don't play well. Version 2.7 up. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BwXJldFN8yrGbn4cDs8_P12lc2BO8QaI1AOflk3oFH0/edit?usp=sharing Patch Notes: Spoiler v2.7 - Added Page 8 data. - Fire Blast: Flares had it's additional damage changed to be cancel-on-miss tick based instead of flat damage after a short delay. Technically an increase in damage. - Changed damage of Flares to 41.60 + (4 * 80% [cancel on miss] * 9.1757) from 41.60 + 18.35. - Energy Blast: Power Burst had its activation time changed back to its old number. - Increased activation of Power Burst to 2 from 1.07. v2.6.3 - Added Offense Amplifier to Buffs sheet. v2.6.2 - Made a "baseline damage" set from Super Reflexes. All damage boosting secondaries show their increase over the baseline in the Rack and Stack. - Put the data chunks for every build I used to get my numbers into their own sheets, by secondary. The sheets are hidden to keep down clutter. Reveal them by going to View > Hidden Sheets. - Removed a "Storm Intensity" flag that Cat 5 used to apply. Holdover from beta testing that I didn't realize was removed. v2.6.1 - Storm Blast: Changes were made from the last beta to live that I missed - Increased jump distance of Chain Lightning to 12ft from 10ft. - Increased Storm Cell Lightning procs to once every 1.67s from every 2s. - Increased Gust Lightning proc chance to 40% from 35%. - Increased Hailstones/Jet Stream Lightning proc chance to 55% from 50%. v2.6 - Added Page 7 data. - Dark Blast: Umbral Torrent was fixed to bring it in line with the damage formula. - Increased damage of Umbral Torrent to 78.3 from 58.72. - Dual Pistols: Pistols was changed to be in line with endurance formula. - Increased end cost of Pistols from 4.16 to 5.2. - Energy Blast: Power Blast and Power Burst were updated to bring their recharge in line with the damage formula. Power Burst end corrected to match formula. - Increased recharge of Power Blast to 8 from 7. - Increased recharge of Power Burst to 11 from 10. - Increased end cost of Power Burst to 11.02 from 10.19. - Decreased activation of Power Burst to 1.07 from 2. - Fire Blast: Blazing Blast was fixed to bring it in line with the damage formula. - Increased damage of Blazing Blast to 139.56 from 133.48. - Ice Blast: Removed Smashing damage bonus from Ice Blast > Chilling Ray. - They already removed the Smashing damage from Ice Blast, so it wasn't doing much anyway. Only 1 epic ability slot (20) still checked that code. - Psychic Blast: Telekinetic Blast had its damage allotments fiddled with. Very minorly. Apparently this changed in at least page 6, I can't fathom why. - Changed damage of Telekinetic Blast to 19.57/61.17 from 20.19/60.56. - Radiation Blast: Cosmic Burst was also updated to bring its recharge in line with the damage/end formulas. - Increased recharge of Cosmic Burst to 11 from 10. - Increased end cost of Cosmic Burst to 11.02 from 10.9. - Seismic Blast: Gravestone was changed to be in line with endurance formula. - Reduced end cost of Gravestone to 11.86 from 14.35. - Storm Blast: Some AoE damage changes were made across the set. - Reduced chain range of Chain Lightning to 15 from 10. - Reduced end cost of Chain Lightning to 15.18 from 18.51. - Reduced recharge of Chain Lightning to 16 from 20. - Decreased damage of Chain Lightning to 70.97 from 74.76. - Lightning procs in Storm Cell increased to 35% (Gust) / 50% (Hailstones/Jetstream) / 70% (Chain Lightning/Lightning Strike/Cloudburst) / 100% (Cat 5) from 20%/40%/60%/70%. - Split between Focused/Split/Spread Lightning is now a flat 33.33% each, instead of 50%/25%/25%. - Damage for Focused/Split/Spread Lightning is now a flat 24.6 for each type from 73.41/36.70/18.35. - Proc chance for each is now every 2 seconds. - Ninja Tool Mastery changed to Weapons Mastery. - General Mastery changes: - All AoE Immobilize cooldowns normalized to 16 seconds. End costs normalized to 10.75. - All AoE Immobilize radii normalized to 15. - All (ranged) ST Hold cooldowns normalized to 24 seconds. End costs normalized to 10.66. - All (ranged) ST Hold accuracy normalized to 1. - Dark Mastery: - Reduced end cost of Netherworld Tentacles to 10.75 from 16.25. - Reduced damage of Netherworld Tentacles to 19.98 from 23.85. - Reduced radius/arc of Netherworld Tentacles to 20/30 from 60/60. - Reduced recharge of Darkest Night to 20 from 40. - Reduced radius of Darkest Night to 25 from 15. - Fire Mastery: - Reduced damage of Fire Cages to 16.89 from 20.19. - Changed damage of Cremate to 140.45 Fire from 100.32 Fire + 40.13 Smashing. - Changed damage of Fire Sword Circle to 101.56 Fire from 58.00 Fire + 43.55 Lethal. - Electricity Mastery: - Reduced damage of Chain Fences to 15.35 from 18.35. - Lightning Field renamed to Shocking Field. - Mechanics of Shocking Field have changed, it now applies a DoT effect that sticks to the target so you can move out of melee and the damage will continue for 10 seconds. - This change means that the bonus damage from Fiery Aura and Bio Armor now occurs every time you re-apply the DoT, essentially meaning the damage happens 5x more than it did before, which wasn't a ton. But it's there. For accuracy. It means about 0.2 more dps in the long run. Don't tell the Blasters. - Increased Recharge of Shocking Field to 20 from 2. - Decreased Paralyzing Jolt accuracy to 1 from 1.2. - Ice Mastery: - Reduced damage of Frostbite to 15.36 from 18.35. - Reduced cooldown of Snow Storm to 20 from 40. - Weapon Mastery: - Increased damage of Paralyzing Dart to 61.16 from 24.47. - Reduced accuracy of Paralyzing Dart to 1 from 1.05. - Reduced damage of The Lotus Drops to 83.19 from 94.31. - Psionic Mastery: Nerf bat smacking around Psychic Shockwave. - Reduced target cap of Mass Hypnosis to 10 from 16. - Reduced accuracy of Dominate to 1 from 1.2. - Reduced target cap of Psychic Shockwave to 10 from 16. - Increased recharge of Psychic Shockwave to 40 from 20. - Increased end cost of Psychic Shockwave to 23.14 from 18.51. - Increased damage of Psychic Shockwave to 67.01 from 36.89. - Mu Mastery: Lots of changes to bring Thunder Strike in line with the formula. - Increased damage of Thunder Strike to 207.98 Energy from 71.17 Smashing + 58.72 Energy. - Decreased activation of Thunder Strike to 2.53 from 3.3. - Increased recharge of Thunder Strike to 40 from 36. - Increased end cost of Thunder Strike to 23.14 from 12.74. - Increased radius of Thunder Strike to 10 from 7. - Soul Mastery: Lots of changes to the Mistress pet - Decreased Smashing damage of TK Blast to 14.24 from 28.47. - Increased cooldown of TK Blast to 6 from 4. - Increased damage of Subdue to 72.96 from 44.49. - Will Domination changed to Dominate. - Decreased damage of Dominate to 72.96 from 87.2. - Decreased cooldown of Dominate to 8 from 14. - Increased damage of Scramble Thoughts to 55.6 from 11.12. - Decreased activation of Scramble Thoughts to 2 from 3. - Decreased cooldown of Scramble Thoughts to 16 from 20. - Increased damage of Psychic Wail to 111.25 from 77.85. - Decreased cooldown of Psychic Wail to 240 from 360. Irrelevant as the pet will despawn before it can cast it a second time. - Mace Mastery: Some of changes to the Tarantula pet - Damage of Venom Bolt changed to full Toxic from Energy/Toxic. Total damage is the same. - Damage of Venom Burst changed to full Toxic from Energy/Toxic. Total damage is the same. - Fixed Scramble Thoughts, I accidentally kept the Alpha data from the last patch for this ability in. - Corrected enhancements on Electric Blast > Paralyzing Jolt to take Stun enhancements (aka. basic ranged enh), not Hold enhancements. - Corrected damage type of Psychic Blast > Telekinetic Blast damage placement. Psi/Smashing were swapped. - Corrected damage type of Water Blast > Geyser damage placement. Fire/Smashing were swapped. - Corrected Electrical Blast > Tesla Cage to a "chain" ability. - Fixed the defense debuff for Radiation Blast in ability 7 checking for ability 1 in rotation. - After testing, Electric Blast > Voltaic Sentinel doesn't get Double Hit procs from Assault Radial. I probably knew this before I "fixed" it in an earlier version and had since forgotten. Removed. - Added a "Giant Monster" flag to Electric Blast > Shock mechanic. Against a GM, the only thing that will be procing is your Voltaic Sentinel. Any monster type selected with greater than 90% regen will meet this criteria. - Damage boost portion of Adrenal Boost was incorrectly pointed at Unrelenting's check box, and had the wrong equation. Being that the damage boost now matches the recharge, that requirement was removed. - Added Bio Armor dependency to Ability 12 granting an endurance reduction bonus when cell D331 (Efficient Adaptation) is checked. - Corrected all Sonic Attack "Short Vibrations" to an 8 second duration. Except Dreadful Wail. It's still 20 seconds. - Reduced Alpha Slot to take up 3 columns so it's easier to re-arrange the top of the sheet if I ever find a layout I like more/works better. I've tried. - Added Vigor Alpha, added healing values to Spiritual Alpha, and changed damage to healing on secondary abilities with activated heals. Not to be confused with Regen. - Added Panacea proc to heals because reasons. Dumb, mostly useless reasons. Heals are probably the worst place for this proc. - Added Healing to replace Smashing damage procs if slot is a heal. - Heals are zeroed out for the "mod damage" cell so nobody decides to drop them in their rotation and get bad numbers. - Added Heal Value cell instead. - Yes, I added the healing for Ground Zero, Obscure Sustenance, and Consume. No I'm not going to change everything to allow healing enhancements in those data chunks. This is a DPS spreadsheet. - Support Hybrid and Alpha enhancement values are added to heals. These are also the only bonuses added to Ground Zero. - Added To Hit enhancement bonuses to Stone Armor > Terra Firma. - Added another 10 endurance cost to Radiation Armor > Meltdown, un-enhanceable, to show the 10% endurance loss attached to the ability. - Removed "Time to kill" calculation from the Assault Radial calculation as it was a circular reference that broke the sheet if you selected anything below 36000 health. Reverted to 50% uptime. - Correctly spelled "Obscure Sustenance" in Dark Armor. - Fixed several of the "other procs" in Secondary data chunks that weren't pointed to the correct cells resulting in many 0s. - Added a dependency to Dual Pistols ammos requiring that Dual Pistols also be selected for their damage to apply, in case you make a new build on the same sheet and forget to change the ammo type to "no ammo". - Made some formatting changes to hide check boxes for abilities if they aren't used in a set (e.g., Ability Chunk 5: Dual Pistols > Swap Ammo; Ability Chunk 13 Earth Armor > Terra Firma) v2.5.2 - Fixed Enhanced Water Jet's time not being 1 second when used in rotation. A casualty of how I ended up fixing Row 39 displaying whole numbers or percentages depending on the set using the row. - This fix pushed Water Blast's (single target) numbers up from the absolute bottom to near the bottom. v2.5.1 - Fixed Seismic Pressure not resetting after abilities 3 or 8 were used. v2.5 - Added Page 6 data. - Added Storm Blast. - Storm Cell has to be in your rotation to account for lightning strike probability. Lightning is not affected by damage boosts, only enhancements (tested). - Category Five must be in your rotation to account for Category Five lightning strike probability. Cat 5 Lightning is affected by damage boosts (tested). - I have both the Smashing damage and Cold damage parts of Cat 5 condensed into one cell (Smashing, it's the more resisted) so I don't have to change everything to have the Lightning Strikes as Energy. Sue me. - Stone procs will not trigger on either type of Lightning. Stone doesn't proc for any pets at all ever. Fire and Bio can proc for both Cat 5 lightning and SC lightning, but Cat 5 is very unlikely because the proc has a 2 second internal cooldown and Cat 5 is applying damage at 0.2 second intervals. Those procs will not be tracked, just the standard 0.2 second ticks will be. - Storm Cell and Cat 5 are set to 1.15x accuracy because that's what the lightning procs will be referencing. - Updated Activation Time of Assault Rifle > Slug from 1.67 o 1.4. - Changed Incinerator to Ignite. - Updated Activation Time of Dual Pistols > Suppressive Fire from 1.67 to 1.5. - Removed Standard Ammo requirement for -Res debuff from Dual Pistols > Piercing Rounds. - Updated Activation Time of Fire Blast > Fire Blast from 1.5 to 1.2. - Updated Activation Time of Psychic Blast > Psychic Scream from 2.67 to 1.87. - Updated Activation Time of Psychic Blast > Psionic Tornado from 2.37 to 1.83. - Reduced Target count of of Water Blast > Water Burst from 16 to 10. - Reduced Target count of of Water Blast > Steam Spray from 10 to 6. These were nerfed in Page 5, I just missed them. - Added -Regen debuff to Parasitic Leech. Debuff value increases with Offensive Adaptation active. Still bugged in game and requires Offensive for both -Regen debuffs. They'll fix it eventually. They've been informed. Twice. - Updated DoT damage from Incendiary Ammo on all abilities. Missed that during page 5 update. - Updated Area Factor cell to calculate for "CHAIN" abilities, which follow a different formula and have an atrociously low chance to proc with higher target caps. - Fixed Brimstone proc for abilities 8 and 9. It was asking if ability 7 was a "PET" and making the activation timer 0.2, thus lowering the damage of the proc when Electric Blast was the Primary. - Cleaned up superfluous parenthesis in some formulas to make things pretty. - Fixed Enhanced Stalagmite damage. - Corrected recharge of Seismic Blast > Stalagmite. - Fixed end cost of Voltaic Sentinel. - Fixed merged cells L and M breaking Tidal Power/Seismic Stress build up. - Fixed cell N32 not correctly showing if abilities were on cooldown if their timer hadn't expired. Another casualty of the L/M merged cell. - Fixed the numbers in Row 39 displaying as percentages when Water Blast is selected. This is just a cosmetic thing and it was a way more annoying to fix than it needed to be. - Changed Meltdown to have a cast time if used in rotation, because 3 seconds is a long time to not be doing anything. - Added Playtest buff in the event you're testing things on Beta like I do. v2.4.4 - Added links in the Ability box at the top of the sheet to jump down to the correlating ability chunks for ease of movement through the sheet. - Also added a link to jump back to the top of the sheet from each ability. - Added a DPA delta that is affected by your final recharge after global and enhanced recharge. - Removed line after line of delta data for every line that had an enhancement, you really only need the one for each PPM. Shows data whether the check mark is toggled or not. - Also factored in Patron Pet procs, and since I could get away with it for their specific abilities, also had those be affected by resistances. - Corrected recharge of Electricity Mastery > Paralyzing Jolt. v2.4.3.1 - Changed Vulnerability calc to need 25 Opportunity instead of the full 50 for a "close enough" level of accuracy. Kind of a trade off for "perfect" accuracy over ease of use. v2.4.3 - Changed healing abilities from Secondaries to just say "Healing" instead of "Damage/Healing". - Removed +%Damage incarnates from the enhancement totals if the ability is a heal. - Added the same thing to abilities with "To Hit." You can now enhance your To Hit in Invulnerability > Invincible and Stone Armor > Terra Firma. Follows ED rules for To Hit correctly. - Added Incarnates with To Hit. Kinda dumb, but whatever. Completeness. v2.4.2 - Implemented Seismic Shockwaves affect to Seismic Blast abilities Rock Shards and Stalagmite. Bonus is affected by your percent chance to have Shockwaves active. - Adding functionality for Seismic Force cooldown reduction is largely pointless except for Meteor. Not something I wish to pursue at this time. v2.4.1 - Removed Disintegrate damage from Multi-Target. - Fixed Damage cells breaking for Multi-Target when ability 3 was used. - Added Galaxy Brain's adjusted resistance data for level 40+ mobs. Will be my new default. - Fixed Lightning Field damage calc. - Updated damage on rain spells. - Updated damage on Secondary abilities that have a damage component. v2.4 - Added Page 5 data. - Removed Opportunity cell from ability chunks. - Removed Defensive Opportunity information from ability chunks. - Removed Offensive Opportunity proc from ability chunks. - Removed second proc chance from Fiery Aura > Burn. It was fun while it lasted. F. - Added Vulnerability, added a toggle for it as well. - Opportunity builds at 1.25 per 0.75 seconds. I'm just using 1.67 per second. Same difference. - Opportunity Strikes proc will add the averaged amount to the Activation_Time * 1.67 when the ability is used. - Updated damage values to 1.1 multiplier numbers. - Added Stone Armor. - Geothermal Power (increases Brimstone proc damage) from having Geode is not tracked. Nobody is going to use that to increase their damage. It would be a damage drop to use it mid-combat. - This set is currently the only set that Voltaic Sentinel doesn't gain the proc damage. I don't know if this will change for the other two, but it was intentional for Stone Armor. - Fixed Voltaic Sentinel using wrong Recharge numbers for Assault Radial, Bio Proc and Molten Embrace Proc. - Fixed mob regen calculation. This exclusively affected Beam Rifle. Factors in new -Regen resist from Vulnerability. - My initial numbers for Seismic Blast were spot on when accounting for the 0.95 multiplier, so if you had anything built for that, you're still good. - I still haven't worked out how Seismic Shockwaves goes off, it's somewhat random and I haven't thought of how to make that work right. - Added an Area Factor cell to each ability chunk. Feels like doing that calculation once per chunk is better/faster than doing it 9 times per chunk. v2.3 - Added Page 4 data. v2.2 - Did a lot of cleanup on formulas and math. - Removed division from the sheet in the hopes that multiplication will speed things up when there are multiple instances of the Rotation Sheet. - For the curious, the inverse of 1/x is x^-1. I'm not sure if exponents are faster than division, but we're going to find out. - Removed nested IF statements where IFS would have sufficed. - Added named ranges for frequently referenced data. - New named ranges will be created for each new copy of the Rotation Sheet. I don't know if this will slow things down or not. The new named ranges will be deleted if/when you delete the new sheet. - Removed VLOOKUPs in favor of INDEX>MATCH, in the hopes that they also may speed things up. - Moved Shock damage numbers from data sheet to the Rotation Sheet. No idea why I thought I should do it the way I did the first time. - Correctly added Opportunity proc damage to pet abilities. - Added missed procs to Patron Pets. Way to trust Mid's. Anyway, update your Mid's to show Mace Mastery pet as taking slow procs. - Added "Hybrid Boost Very Rare" to Hybrid selection so you can show the 10% damage boost, but not have the procs active. You know, for Pylon testing purposes. - Added "Delta" for procs to compare damage increase versus base damage. - Accuracy was pointed towards Damage enhancements instead of Accuracy enhancements in some places. Fixed. - Added DPA to the ability list for quick comparison. v2.1.3.1 - Added cap to -Regen debuffs in the unlikely event that regen values could be reduced to negative numbers. Doesn't technically pertain to Sentinels, as they have no way to reduce regen below the required 331% to delve into negative regen territory. Math was carried over from the Corruptor sheet that I'm pretty sure I've never released due to lack of interest. - Corrected "Activation Period" of Whirlpool in it's Assault Radial proc. v2.1.3 - Added Shock damage to Electrical Blast. Based off of an average of fixed endurance points, which are then affected by mob resistance to Endurance drain and Purple Patch. - Beam Rifle was double dipping on Disintegrate damage. Removed the doubled references. - Added Opportunity gains to secondary attacks. v2.1.2 - Added Health/regen/resist pools for some GMs and a few AVs. Health pools for Kronos Titan, and villain GMs are placeholders until I can zap them with a Power Analyzer. - Corrected damage for AR > Full Auto. v2.1.1 - Added Ice Mistral proc. v2.1 - Updated changes made in Issue 27, page 3. - Added Seismic Blast. Numbers are guesstimations based off other set numbers, design formulas using the 95% AT modifier and intuition from two years of working on a Sentinel Spreadsheet. - When the set is actually added to Sentinels I'll fix the numbers if needs be. - Recharge reductions from "grounded" casts are tracked. Took a while to get this formula to work correctly. Just know that it was hard to do. - Updated numbers for Electrical Blast > Voltaic Sentinel. - Added a Latency option drop down versus using pure Arcanatime. 0.282s is the averaged default I've observed, but I've included all of the variances I've seen. Arcanatime is no more. - Added Pylon DPS. - Additional buff/debuff ability activations are not tracked as it creates a ridiculous amount of circular references. Predicted DPS will be higher than observed. - DPS from rotation is pushed through an inverse pylon formula to find kill time. Kill time is then pushed through standard Pylon DPS formula to find "new" DPS. Highlighting the problem with predicting DPS from a Pylon. - Inverse Time formula allows for Interface procs that reduce HP/Regen, so at least there's a positive to it. - Hybrid Assault now functions off of Pylon time. - Added Diamagnetic Interface proc. Capped at 4 stacks (40%). It wasn't worth the trouble. - Added Regen debuff values to Beam Rifle and Degenerative Interface. It was worth the trouble. - Added "second" proc chance for Fiery Aura > Burn. Turns out the initial attack has a chance to proc, and then the pseudo-pet also has a chance to proc. - Added melee procs to their damage type categories where I missed them. - Single Target damage for attack 15 was referencing the wrong cell and breaking the sheet. v2.0 - Minor fix to PPM calculations - Added Reactive Radial/Core -Res debuff to Electrical Blast > Voltaic Sentinel. - Extended rotation bar to increase accuracy of the calculations. The longer your rotation accounts for, the more accurate your results will be. - Added a checkbox for Aim since apparently some mad men don't take it. - Also added a check box for which mode you're under in Adaptation, and a check box for Molten Embrace since people want to be silly. - Added pet calcs to Molten Embrace/Offensive Adaptation damage for Fiery Aura > Burn. - Added pet damage cap to Fiery Aura > Burn. - Re-tooled how Reactive Interface is calculated. Both Core and Radial are capped at 10%. - Re-tooled how Hybrid Assault Core is calculated. - Electrical Blast > Voltaic Sentinel and Patron Pets also apply the -5% Resist debuff for Opportunity, and you can have each apply it. v1.6.2 - Updated changes made in Issue 27, page 2. - AR, Dual Pistols, Electric Blast T9 cast times. - AR > Full Auto damage updated - Mace Mastery > Focused Accuracy is now Coordinated Targeting. Gives 5% To Hit and 20% Accuracy. - Fixed rain/pseudopet calcs for Assault Radial/Molten Embrace/Bio Armor. - Changed how Interface procs work with "rain" spells. If their duration exceeded the internal cooldown of 10 seconds, it was changed to Duration/10. - Forgot to cap pseudopets at 400% damage. Fixed. - Toggling on Tactics/Assault will show their endurance use now. Both assume a single 53% IO and whatever other global endurance/Incarnate reductions you may have. - Apparently Kezeal's more recent dps sheet had one more gift to give, so I've lifted how cooldowns are calced on the rotation sheet. It's now 1000% easier for me to expand how many abilities are available. v1.6.1 - Almost every block in the "other procs" section was pointed towards ability 1. Fixed. v1.6 - Condensed everything to a single sheet with drop downs for Primaries and Secondaries like I did with my sheets for other ATs. It's much easier to duplicate the sheet and put your own build together now. - Took a page out of Bopper's book and color coded in an attempt to make the sheet more user friendly. - As long as it's blue or green it's intended/fine to edit the block. I wouldn't touch anything else tho or you risk breaking large chunks of the sheet. - Added in endurance costs. Too many times I've made a character with some hefty endurance issues. End/s now calced off of your rotation. Added in Alphas that affect endurance as well. - Multi-Target option re-instated. But it's one or the other. - After doing Dark Astoria arcs I noticed I seem to have a permanent 9% damage buff, so I added that to the Buffs section. - Changed how Decimation and the -Res debuff procs are calced over time. Unfortunately you won't see how much is applied until the ability is actually in your rotation. - Applied defense debuff mod values from Alpha Incarnates just because. - Found the problem with the post ED calcs between 70-100% and fixed that. Values over 100% were calced correctly. - Changed 3 Tidal Power activation of Water Jet to also have a 1 second activation time, per game files. - Reworked Reactive Core/Radial to apply 2.5% for 8.3s (numbers from game files) per ability with a 75%/25% chance, divided by total rotation time. More accurate than before, still doesn't make Core better than Radial. - Applied same treatment to Hybrid Assault Core. Apparently ballparking 30% was pretty close. v1.5 - Added in "pause" functionality to the rotation bar. Kind of a big deal. Maybe. We'll see. - Fixed damage calc for Lightning Field. 1.4.2 - Applied purple patch to Opportunity Strikes proc. Doesn't appear to apply to pseudo-pets, but most of them have horrendous activation chances anyway. 1.4.1 - Somehow I neglected to attach the Offensive Opportunity damage to the check mark I made for it in all the sheets. Fixed that. - Properly applied Purple Patch to Resistance and Defense Debuffs. - Hamidon and Rikti Pylon have their Defense Debuff resistance values factored in. - Corrected cooldown on Dual Pistols > Pistols and Radiation Blast > Proton Stream. - Changed Decimation proc percent to factor how many times the ability is cast versus rotation time. 1.4 - Removed AOE calcs. "There's no such thing as an AOE rotation." - Added in mob resists. There are Averaged resists for major villain groups, general resists across the game, 0 Resists, Rikti Pylon and Hamidon. - Added in T4 Incarnate Interface procs (Reactive Radial wins). - Added in the majority of T4 Alpha abilities that added +Accuracy, + Recharge and +Damage. - Added in Opportunity gained per ability, and Opportunity Strikes proc average to factor in Opportunity up-time. - Added in Offensive Opportunity damage proc. - Added a toggle for whether Offensive Opportunity damage is applied. The T1 ability in some sets is so bad (Psychic) that it's not worth taking and may not be an option. - Added in Defensive Opportunity heal/end for reference purposes. - Pulled correct Bio Armor/Molten Armor proc calcs from game files. - Moved all personal buffs to individual set pages. - Added Defender level damage/recharge buffs/-res debuffs to the Buffs page instead. Max yourself out at +400% damage and +400% recharge. It could happen. - Added Patron Summons and a breakdown of their DPS output. Confirmed which of their abilities will trigger the damage procs from game files. - Added "Purple Patch" damage reductions and accuracy, worked accuracy into calcs. You can now see your accuracy from +0 to +4. - Added Tidal Power to Water Blast to track which damage boost is active for Water Burst and Geyser. Numbers are from game files. - Most every Fire damage over time as an "additional effect" has a cancel on miss flag, so that is now added to them instead of a flat "80% chance for X ticks of X damage." - Added a column to show the percent damage increase from procs against an abilities base damage. 1.3.5 - Averaged Assault Radial and Assault Core. Assault Radial is right, Assault Core is sketchy at best. If someone can think of a better way to average it, I'll change it. - From ability 12 down Bio Toxin, Molten Embrace and Assault Radial were pointing to the wrong cells for some reason. Corrected them. 1.3.4 - Removed Ninjitsu from the secondary drop down because its damage bonus only applies to your first attack from stealth. - Added an "All Others" option for secondaries that don't add to damage potential. (To Hit, Damage or Recharge) - The toggle next to the Opportunity buff can now be used to remove the procs average up time or not, leaving the base 5% debuff. Testing on my Fire sent had a 20 second average time to bring up Opportunity, changed its average up time from "20% * 2/3" to "20% * 15 / (15 + 20)" since it also didn't seem possible to build Opportunity when the debuff was active. - Added Ageless Core average recharge buff. 1.3.3 - Added Bombardment IO Proc to sets that accept it. - Fixed Hybrid Assault Radial proc not pointing to 6PPM. - Fixed Javelin Volley saying Toxic on some pages, they should all say Lethal now. Not that it mattered a ton, but it's fixed anyway. - Re-ordered proc damage in S/L/F/C/E/N/P/T order for no particular reason. - Arbitrarily pointed Molten Embrace damage to 3.5PPM on all sheets. 1.3 - Added Molten Embrace bonus fire damage to all sets. It seems to use the same calcs as the Hybrid Radial with a different damage value. There are obviously outliers that don't follow the formula. - Bio Armor also follows the Hybrid Radial formula with outliers. - Removed all Opportunity debuff damage out of AOE calcs. AOE spells only apply the debuff to the primary target, so factoring it in to every target with a potential target cap of 30 would inflate numbers. - Reworked PPM chance to include AreaMod in all sheets. - Added Epic/Patron pools. Select set by drop down and it will auto-populate. Patron summon dps not calced at this time. - Added Secondaries w/ damaging abilities and buffs to sheets. Select set by drop down and it will auto-populate and apply buffs as necessary. Selecting a secondary with a Recharge or Damage boost will apply its boost to pertinent areas. - Added a cell at the top to show which secondary/pool is active. - Fixed Recharge values not including Spiritual Alpha. 1.2 - Added Hybrid Assault Radial procs based off of research by Hopeling. - Also added Hybrid Assault Core, assuming 4 stacks. 1.1 - Added Bio Armor bonus toxic damage to all sets. - Corrected some activation and recharge times. 1.0 - Initial release. Sheet Tutorial: First things first, choose your sets. If you use Dual Pistols, the ammo type drop down will populate with the different ammo types. Next, update your target. I usually use Global Average at +3 because of Incarnate level shift. Set it to +4 if you plan on exemping down. Next, select your Incarnates and put in your set bonuses. You can get these out of Mids if you're familiar enough with your sets, or if you have the character built in game already, it's easier to get them from there. You can also choose whether Opportunity is active, and whether it's Offense mode or not. You can also choose your latency, but 0.282s is my observed average. Next you're going to have to fill in the data chunks for your abilities. There's no particularly fast way to do this. Finally you can start putting in your rotation. Because of how Opportunity is calced in the sheet, it's best if you fill in your full rotation at least twice, especially since this will reveal whether any pauses are needed. You can select whether you're doing Multi-Target or single Target from the drop down, and you can enable whether defense debuffs are active or not. Edited September 2 by Underfyre 4 1 3 2 Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
oldskool Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) There probably isn't enough general interest in the Sentinel given all of the poo-pooing of the AT since its release. There are several folks that have shelved their Sentinels and moved on to greener pastures out of disappointment. Might be better to just post it and let feedback come as it does. I seriously doubt you'll find "experts" in their preferred sets unless all you really want is a deluge of people talking about Fire Blast. 😉 Edit 1: FWIW to anyone else, I've read it and it has some good things that can be helpful for a lot of folks. More eyes on it can help refine it. Edit 2: Can you change "New" to "Need" in the title? Edited February 21, 2020 by oldskool 1 1
Underfyre Posted February 21, 2020 Author Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Added Hybrid Assault Radial and Core. Core assumes 4 stacks. I confirmed the numbers of Radial Assault on Dual Pistols. According to the thread, there are some abilities that don't fall exactly in line, so there's a chance that numbers may be wrong and will only be exposed through testing. Based off of info from this post: It's apparently a damage loss to take Core over Radial, assuming you're averaging 4 stacks. Edited February 21, 2020 by underfyre Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
Jotun Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 So of i am reading this right electrical blast has the lowest dps of 580?
oldskool Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jotun said: So of i am reading this right electrical blast has the lowest dps of 580? That's the AoE number from the Rack and Stack cell. Something from the very first cell "Rack and Stack's current rankings should not be taken seriously by any means". Keep in mind, Thunderous Blast has a fairly long animation time (so does Full Auto). Short Circuit also has a fairly long animation time and it is also PBAoE (which may or may not complicate things). Ball Lightening is the fastest animating option in the set and its decent. This might inform someone that perhaps they may wish to consider taking an Epic/Patron AoE option like Psychic Shockwave (or whatever floats someone's boat) to pad out gaps. This ignores Short Circuit's other functionality as well as its ability to accept 5 different procs if you wanted to add them. Edited March 4, 2020 by oldskool
nihilii Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 On the topic of Elec's ST DPS, I think it might actually be the top Sentinel primary for that purpose. Simply because a procced out /psi epic is such a cornerstone of Sentinel performance. I've had promising results using an attack chain of Zapping Bolt -> Dominate -> Mind Probe -> Zapping Bolt -> Tesla Cage, with Voltaic Sentinel adding its own shots. How promising? Well, at the same level of incarnates and against Rikti Pylons, my Elec/Inv is dealing roughly the same DPS as my Fire/Bio. That's invul "does-nothing-for-your-offense" versus bio "hey-let's-give-you-a-permanent-25%-damage-boost-and-then-let's-throw-more-toxic-damage-on-top". Zapping Bolt is basically Blaze without the DoT, and Tesla Cage is a proper T4 with a slightly long animation balanced by the ability to take all those juicy damage procs from hold sets (of course, the purple one still goes in Dominate). The game changer in this setup is Voltaic Sentinel. Once you use a powexec_location self macro, it's an easy 3s cast for about a dozen charged bolts. Hard to beat that kind of DPA. But, of course, this is also the caveat. While this gives you good DPS in any situation where you're only fighting one tough target, you can't control which enemy VS will attack if you're fighting several enemies. For AoEs, BL -> TB -> BL -> SC does a good job at clearing stuff. Although it's interesting to see plain Fireball -> Inferno -> Fireball from Fire tends to perform better, at least for me. With TB you need to either herd or have a mob placed at the exact center of everything (and click on it fast), while with Inferno you're the center, no aim required.
oldskool Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, nihilii said: procced out /psi epic Which kinda makes me sad that abusing procs in Dominate and taking Mind Probe are such huge swings in DPS. I guess its not that much different from just stuffing the primary powers with procs, but something about relying on Epics as cornerstones just rubs me the wrong way. Then again, I also like to play in content low enough that I lose those powers. So there is that. I have been toying around with some more sets (Fire/Fire/Fire, Ice/Ice/Ice, Elec/Energy, AR/SR, etc.), and I've been having fun with that discovery. Lightning Bolt - Zapping - Tesla isn't horrible if you want to bypass the Epics. For AR, Disorienting Shot - Slug - Disorienting Shot - Burst with multiple procs has been enlightening. SR's Quickness being a driver to get me to 185% global recharge before the generic Ageless recharge bonus. Incinerator still works depending on how you want to slot things, but not using it has been a slight gain. 3 hours ago, nihilii said: For AoEs, BL -> TB -> BL -> SC does a good job at clearing stuff I probably should have included that sustained AoE DPS is a bit silly in general when any of the Sentinels can clear things just fine. Especially after using Aim, but still serviceable even for Dual Pistols. Though sometimes I feel that opinion is held between just you and I. LOL Edited March 4, 2020 by oldskool 1
BrandX Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 I got 213 ST DPS with a DP/NIN, no Incarnate abilities used (this includes no Alpha). Didn't think to use any epics in the build though. Not sure if the redraw would hurt the DPS, but I put the Purple Hold Proc in Suppressive Fire. DW > SF > *slight pause (.2 sec I believe it was)* ES > Repeat.
nihilii Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, oldskool said: Which kinda makes me sad that abusing procs in Dominate and taking Mind Probe are such huge swings in DPS. I guess its not that much different from just stuffing the primary powers with procs, but something about relying on Epics as cornerstones just rubs me the wrong way. I hear you on that one. Even though I grew to enjoy it personally, there's definitely a design flaw in having some of our best attacks be these specific powers. Not to mention if PPM gets nerfed at some point (which Cap Powerhouse has hinted at), Sentinels will feel the hit more than other ATs. ST epic attacks are weird on any AT. Either they're worst than your primary/secondary options so why bother, or they're better and they overshadow those native options. AoEs have a niche in that it's rare to have a gapless AoE rotation (and/or some sets may lack the specific kind of TAoE/PBAoE/cone/radius you want), but ST attacks are always going to fall in an useless/overpowered binary choice IMHO. 10 hours ago, oldskool said: Lightning Bolt - Zapping - Tesla isn't horrible if you want to bypass the Epics. Indeed. Zapping - Tesla - Zapping - Lightning Bolt - Charged Bolts is also a good alternative. For my own /psi abuse build, I swap to Zap - Tesla - Zap - Charged Bolts - Ball Lightning while exemplaring. Basically getting as much Zapping with Apoc and Glad procs as possible. 10 hours ago, oldskool said: Though sometimes I feel that opinion is held between just you and I. LOL Well, I have one ingame friend who shares the opinion... Hehe. Nothing like timing those Opportunities up one after another, coupled with various -res procs. My buddy's current pet project is a Psy/SR, with which he whams AVs for 4 digit damage in our duos. Psychic Blast gets a ranged Total Focus essentially, damn if that's not fun. That is to say, coming back to AoEs... Even on Psychic Blast and its terrible AoEs, you can just skip these, leverage Aim + Psychic Wail, grab Psy Shockwave, and end up with something decent. Edited March 5, 2020 by nihilii 2
oldskool Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, nihilii said: Well, I have one ingame friend who shares the opinion... Hehe. Nothing like timing those Opportunities up one after another, coupled with various -res procs. My buddy's current pet project is a Psy/SR, with which he whams AVs for 4 digit damage in our duos. Psychic Blast gets a ranged Total Focus essentially, damn if that's not fun. That is to say, coming back to AoEs... Even on Psychic Blast and its terrible AoEs, you can just skip these, leverage Aim + Psychic Wail, grab Psy Shockwave, and end up with something decent. Not a huge shock with Psy. Before I wrote the write-up in the collaboration thread Psy/SR was one of the first experiments. Psy/Nin was next. Currently there is a Psy/WP in my roster as the final evolution of that concept. Will Dom - Scramble Thoughts - Will Dom is available to anyone that wants to push recharge which SR is great at. Add on Dominate and Mind Probe and it gets really strong. Even TK Blast with procs is nothing to sneeze at. Psychic Blast and Psychic Mastery are like a match made in heaven. Its one of the few primary set + epic set that I'd really recommend as a deep dive. I've also done the comparison of the Sentinel with this powers vs a ranged only psy-Fortunata. The Sentinel is really quite good. Enough to make the choice a blurry pick due to all of the other goodies that Widows have. My current Fort runs a mix of melee and psi. This allowed my head canon to free up my concept to revisit a Psi Blast Sentinel. At the moment, I'm aiming to play around with Psionic Strike because I want to explore it a bit more. On paper its kind of a hot mess, but I want to give it another shot. Plus, I like the look of it. While I do cringe at pushing procs hard on holds + a melee, I do like to dabble into the Epics as of late. My two natural origin weapon based concepts (DP/SR, and AR/SR) are a bit more free to push some procs in Caltrops than my DP/Nin currently can. My elemental concepts (Fire, Ice and Electric) all take the AoE Immobilize. That's especially nice for Fire/Fire as I'm using both Burn and Rain of Fire with Fireball spam as necessary. Anyway, I don't want to side track further. Though this does seem like a fine thread to discuss general discovery of the Sentinel as it is all about making effective characters at its core. Why else would anyone care to make a spreadsheet if it wasn't to try and discover ideal power combinations? 1
nihilii Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, oldskool said: Will Dom - Scramble Thoughts - Will Dom is available to anyone that wants to push recharge which SR is great at. Add on Dominate and Mind Probe and it gets really strong. Hear, hear. Basically my thought after seeing my friend's character. WD -> Scramble -> WD -> Dom -> MP ought to be a competitive attack chain, following the same model of a tier3 blast with Apoc and Glad used as often as possible with the other powers slapped in between. It's great to have the epic compliment the primary so well both thematically and mechanically. Got my baby Psy/Dark (thanks 😉 ) leveling slowly in Praetoria hoping to get there one day. (Shoot... Talking about all of this makes me want to take a look at Ice Blast, which I dismissed so far. BIB -> BFR -> BIB -> Dom -> MP ought to be pretty good. Although it requires more recharge.)
oldskool Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, nihilii said: (Shoot... Talking about all of this makes me want to take a look at Ice Blast, which I dismissed so far. BIB -> BFR -> BIB -> Dom -> MP ought to be pretty good. Although it requires more recharge.) I think you should!! Those attacks can take on multiple categories so they have proc options. My Ice/Ice/Ice just runs the core of Chilling/BiB/BFR and its not horrible. (Edit: P.S., Also curious to know how that Psy/Dark turns out. Lots of Stuns in there plus Stealth should feel super safe for play along side the heavy hitters in the primary. It was a combo I was very close to rolling myself.) Edited March 5, 2020 by oldskool 1
Underfyre Posted March 6, 2020 Author Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) On 3/4/2020 at 10:28 AM, Jotun said: So of i am reading this right electrical blast has the lowest dps of 580? So yeah, what Oldskool said. Take the rack and stack with a grain of salt. However, I do have an Epic'd out Electric/Energy Sent, but I never transfered it's sets into the sheet. Doing that, setting it to just Energy Aura (20% recharge bonus only) puts it to more of a middling set at 930 dps with incarnates. Not awful, just not ...Water/Bio aoe numbers. If anyone is curious I'm actively adding in Epic pools with a drop down option for each one that accounts for all the fun stuff automatically. It works great for the hero epic setup of TAOE/CONE->ST->ST->T/PAOE-> some other thing as the 5th. Adding in Patrons is going to throw things for a whirl since they only loosely follow that scheme. Really it's just Mu Mastery that's ruining everything. I also currently have no desire on working out the dps of a patron pet. Maybe someone else already did. Edited March 6, 2020 by underfyre Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
Underfyre Posted March 12, 2020 Author Posted March 12, 2020 New version up, check notes in main post for changes. Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
OrionX Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 This is great reading. Did you do this for other ATs?
Underfyre Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 I have randomly cloned a sheet and injected a different blast using ATs numbers and their inherents into it yes, but not a full on sheet for other ATs. Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
Underfyre Posted June 12, 2020 Author Posted June 12, 2020 Disappeared for a spell to play on Project 1999. Level 35 has sapped my desire to play for now, damn hell levels. Anyway, some minor changes and 1.3.4 is up. Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
Zeraphia Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 I mean this is a lot of work of course but... I have to seriously question a lot of these numbers and I have to point out the noticeable disparities in advantage that specific sets are given, and this data is super misleading. Dual Pistols and Archery are just flat out not #1 and #2 in ST DPS, and the way you've ranked it would have people believe that to be so. In the rankings that Kaeladin did, he did not include epic pool muddlings into the DPS ranking or procs because it can get extremely murky. You can't just use Dominate and Mind Probe for Dual Pistols to make it #1 while giving Fire Blast a rotation with two different sets of Flares... Am I missing something? This just seems more like "I want these sets to be high up because I like them thematically over another set" but it seems to not really accurately portray how much the sets actually produce.
Underfyre Posted June 16, 2020 Author Posted June 16, 2020 Well, the welcome page BOLDLY says to take rankings with a grain of salt. Some sets I have built, others I have not. The presence of Epic pools in the #1 set is absolutely muddling its number. At this point I'm considering removing it, or at least hiding it and making people find it. You know you can make a copy of this and update the numbers to fit your sets right? The bar is set with DP/DA/Psi. Go ahead and beat it. Procs are an averaged number and they will play a role in the viability of one power against another. If a proc is doing 71.75 damage 56% of the time, it's going to average 40.18 damage average of a long enough time span. That's how these kinds of sheets work. Now look at Abyssal Gaze. It does 112 damage base. Stacked with procs it will do 541 damage. Left at the devices of just enhancements it wouldn't even do half of that. Procs play a vital role in the damage output of some sets. Regardless of this, Dark is still doing middling damage even after I build it up. I'm sure I could give it Dominate and pad its ST damage, but it's already weak AOE damage would suffer even more so it'd stay in the middle anyway. Some sets aren't destined to sit on top. One thing that is not considered is mob resistance. A set like Dual Pistols may suffer a bit losing up to 25% of its damage to Lethal resistance. But as it is, everything in the sheet is on an even playing field, even if the game is not. Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
Frostweaver Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 As much as I appreciate the VERY rough sheet, it still makes me want to beg @oldskool for a Psi/regen build sans fly 🙂 1
SwitchFade Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 I'm sorry, but including procs, epics and attack rotations that are irrespective of standardized builds or enhances renders all the data invalid. If you want to compare these sets you would have to remove variables that skew data so badly that it is uncorrectable Randomness alone corrupts the data, not to mention outside factors, bias and preference. Sorry, but this is beyond "take with a grain of salt" and should carry a disclaimer that "dataset used for reference is invalid" 2
Frostweaver Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 You know, except that procs, epics, and attack rotations are an important part of the game. And direct determiners of actual in-game performance rather than some magical, nonexistent, even keel model. And you wonder why economists are always wrong.
oldskool Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Frostweaver said: As much as I appreciate the VERY rough sheet, it still makes me want to beg @oldskool for a Psi/regen build sans fly 🙂 The "sans fly" is kinda funny. I don't run with any travel powers in my Sentinel builds at the moment. I don't count Combat Jumping. I generally do not play with Hover/Fly outside of my Controllers. My Blasters do not hover blast, period. My Defender can jump right into the thick of things too. This is all from main play of Scrappers/Brutes back from live. I tinkered with Psi/Regen real quick though. I went for Psi Mastery to include Link Minds as well as all of the other damage goodies. Link Minds allowed me to hit 30% melee, 31% Energy/Negative, 24% Smashing/Lethal, and 25% Ranged. The others... around 16-18. Can't have it all. Recharge landed around 155%, not enough for me with Psychic Blast, but Ageless would help. Hit points nearly capped and a proc or two in every single-target attack. It reminded me why I prefer Super Reflexes/Energy Aura/Electrical Armor. That 20% from those sets is a big deal to me. Still, a Psi/Regen could be pretty good. Probably not great, but pretty good. Bio Armor is a lot better in my opinion but that pigpen effect may not be what you want.
Frostweaver Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, oldskool said: The "sans fly" is kinda funny. I don't run with any travel powers in my Sentinel builds at the moment. I don't count Combat Jumping. I generally do not play with Hover/Fly outside of my Controllers. My Blasters do not hover blast, period. My Defender can jump right into the thick of things too. This is all from main play of Scrappers/Brutes back from live. I tinkered with Psi/Regen real quick though. I went for Psi Mastery to include Link Minds as well as all of the other damage goodies. Link Minds allowed me to hit 30% melee, 31% Energy/Negative, 24% Smashing/Lethal, and 25% Ranged. The others... around 16-18. Can't have it all. Recharge landed around 155%, not enough for me with Psychic Blast, but Ageless would help. Hit points nearly capped and a proc or two in every single-target attack. It reminded me why I prefer Super Reflexes/Energy Aura/Electrical Armor. That 20% from those sets is a big deal to me. Still, a Psi/Regen could be pretty good. Probably not great, but pretty good. Bio Armor is a lot better in my opinion but that pigpen effect may not be what you want. Well, I have a level 38 'concept' build that I am struggling with, psi/regen, named "Gorgeous", who is a rotting hulk created as one of his first bodies by Doc Vahzilok, and eventually replaced as a holder for a random brain. The Random Brain actually turned out to be gifted much like the clock king, so, since the body was mostly unkillable and the brain was clock kinglike, I settled (almost a year ago) On a Psi-regen sentinel and have revisited it every couple of months to try to make it work. the...incredible slowness of Psi almost always makes me throw up my hands in despair... especially when I managed to kill a mob with TK blast while waiting for Psionic strike to actually travel to the target. Well, this is the crap I have so far for a build... is it recoverable or should I just give it up and rebuild as a bio? Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Science SentinelPrimary Power Set: Psychic BlastSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Telekinetic Blast -- Dcm-Build%(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(3), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(5), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A)Level 2: Reconstruction -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(9), UnbGrd-Max HP%(11)Level 4: Psychic Scream -- SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprOppStr-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprOppStr-Rchg/+Opportunity(17)Level 6: Mental Blast -- Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Thn-Acc/Dmg(21)Level 8: Will Domination -- EntChs-Heal%(A), EntChs-Acc/Dmg(23), EntChs-Dmg/EndRdx(23), EntChs-Dmg/Rchg(25), EntChs-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)Level 10: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(27)Level 12: Instant Regeneration -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(27), Prv-Heal/Rchg(29), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(31), Prv-Heal(31)Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 16: Dismiss Pain -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(31), NmnCnv-Heal(33)Level 18: Psionic Tornado -- SprSntWar-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprSntWar-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg(34)Level 20: Integration -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36)Level 22: Tough -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Ags-ResDam(37), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(39)Level 24: Psychic Focus -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit(40)Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(42)Level 28: Resilience -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(42)Level 30: Scramble Thoughts -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)Level 32: Psychic Wail -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg(43), Obl-Acc/Rchg(43), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(45), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)Level 35: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 38: Mind Probe -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 41: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(46), RechRdx-I(48)Level 44: Psychic Shockwave -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Rchg(48), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(50), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 49: Second Wind -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: OpportunityLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A), PwrTrns-EndMod(11)------------
Underfyre Posted June 16, 2020 Author Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SwitchFade said: I'm sorry, but including procs, epics and attack rotations that are irrespective of standardized builds or enhances renders all the data invalid. If you want to compare these sets you would have to remove variables that skew data so badly that it is uncorrectable Randomness alone corrupts the data, not to mention outside factors, bias and preference. Sorry, but this is beyond "take with a grain of salt" and should carry a disclaimer that "dataset used for reference is invalid" 1) Please elaborate on "standardized builds." I have never once seen two people build the same exact way. Pretending that Epic attacks aren't available when comparing between builds is going to skew data more than making them available. I've already said why procs should be present. As for attack chains, a lot of attack chains would rather pause for 0.2 seconds for an ability to refresh than just keep spamming whatever is up. That's a reasonable argument. I, however, don't have the spreadsheet know-how to implement something like that. 2-3) You know that everything about the game is based on random numbers, right? You have between a 5% and 95% chance to hit a mob and a dice is rolled for every. single. attack. A spreadsheet like this operates between now and infinity. If I have a 95% chance to hit with an ability doing 100 damage, and you do a parse of 100 attacks, you will more than likely come up with a number around 9500. Will it be exactly 9500? Probably not. But it will be really close. Extend that to 1000 attacks, you'll probably edge closer to 95000. 4) The only bias in this sheet is the fact that it's for Sentinels only. There were times when I really wanted to see if modeling something would give me a result that would beat Fire Blast, such as factoring in the -res debuffs from sonic just to find out that that ain't it. Actually, one bias I'm working on is that I have the up-time of Hybrid Assault Core factored into its effect, where I don't have it factored into the Radial, which technically it would be doing half of its damage since it's up for half the time (up 120 seconds, down 120 seconds). It's a "quick" fix that I have to apply to every sheet, which makes nothing quick, but I'll probably be doing it soon. At the end of the day, if you don't like it, don't use it. 1 Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
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