Venture Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 So a bit of backgound on set bonuses before I talk about catalysts/attuned: Set bonuses and globals stay functional if you exemplar to a level where you lose the power they are slotted in as long as that level is no more than 3 levels below the levels of the pieces you slotted. That latter condition applies on a per-enhancement basis. If you slotted five level 25 pieces of a set and one level 40, you'd lose the sixth bonus when exemplared to level 36 or below. "Chance of" and "for 120s" pieces stop working if you lose the power they're slotted in. Attuned pieces follow the same rules, but are effectively always the same level you are. However, they have a minimum - they can't follow your level down below where they exist. So if you have attuned pieces that don't exist below level 25, they stop giving you bonuses at level 21 and lower. if you don't exemp or don't care about set bonuses following you when you exemp then don't bother catalyzing/attuning them (you may want to boost them instead) Where catalyzing/attuning is really useful is for levelling. i tend to attune sets, use them to 50 then unslot them and put them into another alt. NB! - THIS BIT BE IMPORTANT There are a few things you should be aware of: 1. Always catalyze/attune orange ATOs and Winter O's - this actually boosts their stats 2. never catalyze/attune purple sets or pvp sets - these automatically allow their set bonuses at all levels already so it's a waste to catalyze/attune them - boost them instead 3. everything else, attune if you're going to exemp and care about keeping the associated set bonus when you do so, boost if you don't exemp or dont care about keeping the set bonus when you exemp (or would rather have the added effects of the boost when exemping) Catalysts (out of Date) Enhancement Booster 7 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generator Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Nice breakdown, thanks. If I could ask a follow-up question, where in Homecoming are Boosters and Catalysts available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 You can get both Boosters and Catalysts through the Merit Vendors and ATMs. You can also get Catalysts as a very rare drop once you hit 50 and start earning Incarnate EXP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generator Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Oh, nice. How much do they cost? (I'm away from my game PC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheresmycow Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 How do you attune sets? Also, do catalysts work on sets like Blistering Cold, where there is a superior version? It says catalysts only work on Archetype sets, so I wasn't sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Oh, nice. How much do they cost? (I'm away from my game PC) Five merits for a Booster, and twenty merits for a Catalyst. How do you attune sets? The same way you combine your regular enhancements: go into the Enhancements screen, click on the set IO you want to attune, then add your Catalyst. Also, do catalysts work on sets like Blistering Cold, where there is a superior version? It says catalysts only work on Archetype sets, so I wasn't sure. Yes. Catalysts work on all Enhancement sets. That's set IOs, ATOs, and the Winter sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venture Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 Also, do catalysts work on sets like Blistering Cold, where there is a superior version? It says catalysts only work on Archetype sets, so I wasn't sure. Yes. Catalysts work on all Enhancement sets. That's set IOs, ATOs, and the Winter sets. Specifically Catalysts were originally implemented to convert an orange Archetype Origin Enhancement into its Purple Equivalent. See Point 1 above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 ...snip... NB! - THIS BIT BE IMPORTANT There are a few things you should be aware of: 1. Always catalyze/attune orange ATOs and Winter O's - this actually boosts their stats 2. never catalyze/attune purple sets or pvp sets - these automatically allow their set bonuses at all levels already so it's a waste to catalyze/attune them - boost them instead 3. everything else, attune if you're going to exemp and care about keeping the associated set bonus when you do so, boost if you don't exemp or dont care about keeping the set bonus when you exemp (or would rather have the added effects of the boost when exemping) Catalysts (out of Date) Enhancement Booster Oh nice I knew about attument and boosting but wasn't aware that purples were "attuned" so to speak by default... ty Install and Troubleshooting Guide v2 WayBackMachine old forums Calistin ~ on Discord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generator Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Yeah Silk, they were always like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeon Hawkwood Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 So one very important thing to be aware of: You don't need to spend catalysts except for the Archtype and Winter sets For regular IO sets the attuned and non-attuned IOs are actually linked on the market (meaning that sell offers for one can be used to fulfill bids for the others). Therefore buying an attuned version of an IO costs the same as buying a regular non-attuned version. I only just realized this last night so I figured it might be worth pointing out. Side note, how do I make text large? The standard BBCode size tags don't seem to work 1 Defender Smash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheresmycow Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 The same way you combine your regular enhancements: go into the Enhancements screen, click on the set IO you want to attune, then add your Catalyst. Yes. Catalysts work on all Enhancement sets. That's set IOs, ATOs, and the Winter sets. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeon Hawkwood Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 The same way you combine your regular enhancements: go into the Enhancements screen, click on the set IO you want to attune, then add your Catalyst. Yes. Catalysts work on all Enhancement sets. That's set IOs, ATOs, and the Winter sets. Thank you! But unless you are attuning an ATO or Winter set you're better off just buying the attuned IO from the market since it will be the same price as a regular IO. 1 Defender Smash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venture Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 The same way you combine your regular enhancements: go into the Enhancements screen, click on the set IO you want to attune, then add your Catalyst. Yes. Catalysts work on all Enhancement sets. That's set IOs, ATOs, and the Winter sets. Thank you! But unless you are attuning an ATO or Winter set you're better off just buying the attuned IO from the market since it will be the same price as a regular IO. unless you already have say a level 30 set slotted already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeon Hawkwood Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 The same way you combine your regular enhancements: go into the Enhancements screen, click on the set IO you want to attune, then add your Catalyst. Yes. Catalysts work on all Enhancement sets. That's set IOs, ATOs, and the Winter sets. Thank you! But unless you are attuning an ATO or Winter set you're better off just buying the attuned IO from the market since it will be the same price as a regular IO. unless you already have say a level 30 set slotted already Last time I looked Catalysts were going for about 5million each. Unslotters are generally around 100K-500K so it's still cheaper to unslot your level 30s, sell them and buy attuned enhancements. Sure it will cost you some inf (for unslotters, market fees and possibly an impatience tax) but it's still cheaper than spending 30million on catalysts. Defender Smash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Can you attune hamidon enhancements? Install and Troubleshooting Guide v2 WayBackMachine old forums Calistin ~ on Discord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrypessimist Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Can you attune hamidon enhancements? No, since they're not part of the invention system as I recall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britainnia Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 In regards to enhancements such as Regen Tissue +Regen, Steadfast Proc +Def is it best to boost these or leave as is? Britainnia - Super Strength / Invulnerability - Brute (50+3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Vee Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Regenerative doesn't have any effect from boosting, and no benefit to having attuned over just the lowest level. It's a flat bonus that works like a set bonus. The 3% in steadfast also works like a set bonus, but it has a resist component to it as well. So for that it would depend on whether you exemp a lot or not. You'd have to compare in pine's the different levels with or without boosts to find your sweet spot for the content you do most. If you never exemp, boosted top level would be optimal. Personally I just get attuned and forget it with that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2. never catalyze/attune purple sets or pvp sets - these automatically allow their set bonuses at all levels already so it's a waste to catalyze/attune them - boost them instead I wish I had known this before I attuned 2 purple sets! I just tried boosting them, and that doesn't work. If I want them boosted, I'll have to recreate them. What a pain. But thanks for the helpful guide. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeon Hawkwood Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2. never catalyze/attune purple sets or pvp sets - these automatically allow their set bonuses at all levels already so it's a waste to catalyze/attune them - boost them instead I wish I had known this before I attuned 2 purple sets! I just tried boosting them, and that doesn't work. If I want them boosted, I'll have to recreate them. What a pain. But thanks for the helpful guide. You can sell them and re-buy the regular type for about the same price. You'll lose the market fee but that's about it. 1 1 Defender Smash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britainnia Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Regenerative doesn't have any effect from boosting, and no benefit to having attuned over just the lowest level. It's a flat bonus that works like a set bonus. The 3% in steadfast also works like a set bonus, but it has a resist component to it as well. So for that it would depend on whether you exemp a lot or not. You'd have to compare in pine's the different levels with or without boosts to find your sweet spot for the content you do most. If you never exemp, boosted top level would be optimal. Personally I just get attuned and forget it with that one Thanks for this feedback Britainnia - Super Strength / Invulnerability - Brute (50+3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Sheik Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Noob question -- I've got a 6-slotted AT set and only 1 catalyst. If I make 1 enhancement Superior but leave the rest until I get more catalysts, is it going to mess with my bonuses until I get more Superiors, or do the bonuses "adapt" to the new level? I'm tempted to wait until I can change them all at once, but of course it'd be nice if I didn't have to. Refight the Trojan War and stop Arachnos in the time-traveling "Dr. Aeon and the Wrath of Achilles," 5 missions full of heroic allies and smash/lethal EBs, AE#31899! Torchbearer Greek & Roman theme SG and coalition -- "Polias" -- always looking for new members! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathulfr Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Noob question -- I've got a 6-slotted AT set and only 1 catalyst. If I make 1 enhancement Superior but leave the rest until I get more catalysts, is it going to mess with my bonuses until I get more Superiors, or do the bonuses "adapt" to the new level? I'm tempted to wait until I can change them all at once, but of course it'd be nice if I didn't have to. Yes, attuning 1 of out 6 in a set will "break" the set. I reduces the count of the normal set, and starts the counter for the superior set. They don't overlap. I learned this hard way. Don't attune a set until you have catalysts for the entire set. Or simply sell your non-attuned set on the AH, and then turn around and buy the attuned equivalents to keep the set complete. 1 @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Sheik Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Thanks, Rathulfr. I am glad your pain was not in vain, for you have saved me some. Refight the Trojan War and stop Arachnos in the time-traveling "Dr. Aeon and the Wrath of Achilles," 5 missions full of heroic allies and smash/lethal EBs, AE#31899! Torchbearer Greek & Roman theme SG and coalition -- "Polias" -- always looking for new members! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aybes Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Maybe a stupid question, but what about IOs that have a level cap lower than 50 like Energy Manipulator (level range of 10-20). What are the benefits and draw backs of attuning vs boosting IOs such as these? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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