Titan Weapon Damage working as intended

[Bopper]

1 minute ago, Moodz85 said:

20 and 30 for momentum, plus 10 overall = 30-40, or is that not simple math either?

 

Can you show your work? I seriously don't know what 20 and 30 means. My numbers I provided earlier included the 8-10% reduction already.

[Moodz85]

forget it. I'm done trying to show you all my work. Can a mod just delete this thread. It did about as much good as i thought it would. I went no where.

[Bopper]

 

I highlighted the patch notes to show the two areas where the damage would be reduced. I will now provide the actual i26 numbers along with the i27 numbers (slow and fast), and provide the ratio between the two. For DoTs, I use average damage.

 

Power:  i26 Base  | i27 Base Slow  | i27 Base Fast

Defensive Sweep:  45.6073  |  41.8161  |  35.1283    (91.69% | 77.02%)

Crushing Blow:  112.8609  |  102.6009  |  82.5812    (90.91% | 73.17%)

Titan Sweep:  89.4004  |  81.9681  |  65.2391    (91.69% | 72.97%)

Rend Armor: 200.9475  |  182.6796  |  142.6402  (90.91% | 70.98%)

Arc of Destruction:  162.4097  |  122.1138  |  95.3500    (75.19% | 58.71%)

Follow Through:  151.8282  |  122.6205  (80.76%)

Whirling Sword:  85.6256  |  65.0640  (75.99%)

[Bopper]

As you can see from my work, you get about 9% reduction in your slow attacks across the bored (as mentioned in the patch now), then when momentum reduced the recharge by 25%, the damage is also reduced along with it and winds up somewhere between 71%-81% of what the damage used to be in i26. The exception is Arc of Destruction that had its Slow recharge reduced by 20% (20s down to 16s), so its slow damage was reduced to 75% of what it used to be, and 59% of what is used to be when Momentum is active.

[Moodz85]

except for according to mids i26 your numbers are off as well.

 

Defensive sweep base: 52.4

Titan sweep: 102.8

Whirling smash: 92.82

Arc: 186.8

 

buts thats off of mids without Crit enabled. I guess thats wrong also

[Bopper]

5 minutes ago, Moodz85 said:

except for according to mids i26 your numbers are off as well.

 

Defensive sweep base: 52.4

Titan sweep: 102.8

Whirling smash: 92.82

Arc: 186.8

 

buts thats off of mids without Crit enabled. I guess thats wrong also

It is wrong. I looked. Highlight over the damage and see what it shows. It is trying to add both the minion crit damage (5%) and the non-minion crit damage (10%). So it is averaging the damage by 15% more than it should be. 89.4*1.15= 102.81

 

Edit: If you want to truly suppress your crit numbers to 0, go into your Options, go into Configuration, go to Effects and Math, then select the box that says Ignore Extra Damage (minimum)

Edited December 2, 2020 by Bopper

[Moodz85]

cool thanks for your info. I just know now its time to reroll something else, because the TW scrapper is worthless now.

[Bopper]

Not sure if I'd agree with that. Fast Arc of Destruction is still the 2nd highest DPA attack amongst Spheres/non-skinny Cones (excluding epics). Whirling Smash is 6th highest. Fast Titan Sweep is 11th highest. So if you're looking to be great at AoE DPA, having 3 of the 11 best AoE attacks (in terms of DPA) is fairly useful. But, that's going off-topic since this is a bug report.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Bopper

[macskull]

9 minutes ago, Moodz85 said:

cool thanks for your info. I just know now its time to reroll something else, because the TW scrapper is worthless now.

TW is still in the top 3 for what it's worth.

[Moodz85]

yeah based on the numbers i see, not so much. at least not for +4 8 farming. but it's whatever. I'm over it. Already stripped him and leveling up something else.

[macskull]

I mean, if your goal was to make a +4x8 farmer Titan Weapons was never a top pick... (unless you were doing it to be different, I suppose, but you commenting on the numbers tells me that isn't the case)

Edited December 2, 2020 by macskull

[Moodz85]

no but it was super fun to play. I never said it was the best farmer. I just like things out of the norm. and i farmed more efficiently than most brutes i was grouped with. but now, not so much.

[Moodz85]

I have plenty of farms characters, I just wanted something different than the norm. and TW WAS it, but I guess my search continues for something unique and fun to farm with

[macskull]

Give an Ice/Fire Blaster a try. Or a Dominator of some kind. Very challenging to build and play but they can be somewhat competitive.

[Moodz85]

yeah i have a fire/fire blaster i farm with. He has to duo farm, but definitely fun blowing stuff up on. Haven't tried a Dominator yet. I made a MM build though that i wanted to try some time, once i farm up the influence for him.

[Coyotedancer]

Mr.Coyote's favorite fire-farmer is a Fire/Energy Blaster... He's had great fun with that one.

S/L-farming with DB/Rad Brute has its moments, too, and is an interesting change of pace from all-fire all-the-time. 

[Coyote]

16 hours ago, Bopper said:

Not sure if I'd agree with that. Fast Arc of Destruction is still the 2nd highest DPA attack amongst Spheres/non-skinny Cones (excluding epics). Whirling Smash is 6th highest. Fast Titan Sweep is 11th highest. So if you're looking to be great at AoE DPA, having 3 of the 11 best AoE attacks (in terms of DPA) is fairly useful. But, that's going off-topic since this is a bug report.

 

Your patience is an inspiration.

Not as useful as a Luck or a Break-free 😆, but still an inspiration 😃