I got the Poison, I need a remedy!

[Carnifax]

So Poison. No-one plays poison much. But looking on @UberGuy's amazing City of Data Poison seems quite decent in a "No buffs, all debuffs" kinda way. 

 

I'm flailing around looking at various primaries (I've even got 4 builds done) but I'd like to hear what others think and potential builds before I start spamming the forums. 

 

So, as Maxim says I got the poison, what's your remedy?

[Nemu]

Ice/poison for the ultimate walking simulator. It's a build for the truly macho.

[Coyote]

IMO, Poison is a late-blooming set that will do little to keep you safe early. It's main strength early is good single-target debuffing, so I think it should be paired with a primary that is strong defensively especially against large groups. Unless you PL into the mid-late 30s, when you get enough enhancement slots to start building a defense build based on set bonuses.

 

So, if leveling it up, I would look at the primaries that seem like they're going to give you good defensive opportunities early, and that leads me to:

1) Plant. Thematic, and best option. Seeds of Confusion takes care of LTs and below, and stacking the Hold with Poison's ST Hold or Poison Trap takes care of a single Boss fast (and the debuffs are good against a Boss before the Poison Holds become available). Envenom can be used to increase damage done by Confused mobs, without lowering their damage or chance to hit.

 

2) Dark. Also pretty thematic, and works well by stacking -ToHit debuffs along with Poison's. Then, Heart of Darkness with procs as a PBAoE together with Poison Trap also as a PBAoE puts out a lot of AoE damage for a Controller.

 

3) Electric. It's a good shutdown control set by draining mobs, and then later Poison Trap can help with AoE damage. Alpha strike can be a problem, but once that's survived, it doesn't take long to drain mobs. Poison Trap is supposed to do huge -Recovery, but I think the duration on it may be bugged... if it's not, though, then this should be able to End drain AVs.

 

4) Earth. Always a good control set overall, it gets Stalagmites and Earthquake early.

[Hedgefund]

I asked myself the question "what would be good for Fold Space?" and I settled on Ice/Poison for my newest lowbie.  At 17 now, I can't kill things, but teammates can a little bit safer and a little bit faster.  I'm hoping it gets much safer and much faster once the good stuff opens up.

[Carnifax]

So my initial was "Fire" but I quickly rejected that. So now I'm debating between Elec, Ice & Dark, leaning slightly away from Dark just cos the build seems too much of a stretch. 

 

The Elec build is weird because I've actually avoided Conductive Aura since it doesn't do a hell of a lot on its own. *Edit, I've done a version with Aura > Neutrotoxic Cone thingie instead

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Electric Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Tesla Cage -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(3), Lck-Rchg/Hold(3), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-%Hold(7)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(27)
Level 2: Envenom -- Acc-I(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(11), AchHee-ResDeb%(13)
Level 4: Electric Fence -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(15), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Weaken -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(19), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(21), CldSns-%Dam(21)
Level 8: Jolting Chain -- Acc-I(A), Apc-Dam%(13), GldJvl-Dam%(23), FrcFdb-Rechg%(23), ExpStr-Dam%(25)
Level 10: Conductive Aura -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(27)
Level 12: Static Field -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 18: Paralyzing Blast -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(33), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(34)
Level 20: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45)
Level 22: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(34)
Level 24: Antidote -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 26: Synaptic Overload -- MlsIll-Acc/Rchg(A), MlsIll-EndRdx/Conf(31), MlsIll-Acc/EndRdx(31), MlsIll-Conf/Rng(33), MlsIll-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), MlsIll-Dam%(25)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Gremlins -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(48)
Level 38: Venomous Gas -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42)
Level 41: Fissure -- Artl-End/Rech/Rng(A), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(29), Artl-Acc/Dam(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dam%(43), TchofDth-Dam%(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), UnbCns-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(45)
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Ice version. I kind of like the idea of Arctic + Gas Aura

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(3), Lck-Rchg/Hold(3), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-%Hold(7)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(27)
Level 2: Envenom -- Acc-I(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(11)
Level 4: Chilblain -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(15), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Weaken -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(19), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(21), CldSns-%Dam(21)
Level 8: Arctic Air -- MlsIll-Acc/Rchg(A), MlsIll-EndRdx/Conf(13), MlsIll-Acc/EndRdx(23), MlsIll-Conf/Rng(23), MlsIll-Acc/Conf/Rchg(25), MlsIll-Dam%(25)
Level 10: Neurotoxic Breath -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 18: Frostbite -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(33), Artl-Dam/Rech(33), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(34), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(34), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(34)
Level 20: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45)
Level 22: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Glacier -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(33)
Level 28: Antidote -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(48)
Level 38: Venomous Gas -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42)
Level 41: Fissure -- Acc-I(A), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(29), Artl-Acc/Dam(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dam%(43), TchofDth-Dam%(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), UnbCns-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(45)
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Dark. Not sure I like this, Haunts seem underslotted and no Confuse makes me sad, 

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(3), Lck-Rchg/Hold(3), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-%Hold(7)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(27)
Level 2: Envenom -- ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(11), AchHee-ResDeb%(13), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(27)
Level 4: Shadowy Binds -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(15), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Weaken -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(19), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(21), CldSns-%Dam(21)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(23), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(23), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(25), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), CldSns-%Dam(45)
Level 10: Neurotoxic Breath -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Heart of Darkness -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(33)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(34), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Antidote -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Shadow Field -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(37), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(13), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(33)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(48)
Level 38: Venomous Gas -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42)
Level 41: Fissure -- Artl-End/Rech/Rng(A), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(29), Artl-Acc/Dam(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dam%(43), TchofDth-Dam%(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), UnbCns-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Empty(A), Empty(29)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(45)
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And finally the Fire version which was my initial draft (but I have a planned Fire/Traps Fold Spacer sitting in his teens so unlikely I want this)

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(3), Lck-Rchg/Hold(3), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-%Hold(7)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(27)
Level 2: Envenom -- ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(11), AchHee-ResDeb%(13), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(27)
Level 4: Ring of Fire -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(15), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Weaken -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(19), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(21), CldSns-%Dam(21)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(23), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Neurotoxic Breath -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Flashfire -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(33)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Cinders -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), GhsWdwEmb-Acc/Hold/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Antidote -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45)
Level 26: Bonfire -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(40), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(40), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(48)
Level 38: Venomous Gas -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42)
Level 41: Fissure -- Artl-End/Rech/Rng(A), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(29), Artl-Acc/Dam(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dam%(43), TchofDth-Dam%(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), UnbCns-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 49: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(29)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(45)
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Edited March 23, 2021 by Carnifax

[Coyote]

For Ice/Poison, you will have serious problems running both AA and Noxious Gas. Separately they're expensive toggles, but together they combine to form Exhaustron, a vampiric invisible fungoid living on your character's back, possibly masquerading as a cape, that sucks your life and saps your energy. I would 3-slot Stamina at a minimum, and probably 4-slot it, and 3-slot Health to get all of the uniques that give +Recovery or +Endurance. Unless you're planning to run Ageless, but I think this combination requires Clarion instead. Also, not slotting End Red in toggles like Weave and Maneuvers is going to make the Endurance problem worse.

[tidge]

I have a Mind/Poison/Primal Controller that is fun to play. I relied on P2W attacks for much of the leveling, and still keep them handy for low level TFs.

 

This is a "concept character": The fluffy part of the concept being that he essentially is accident-prone (and makes others prone to have accidents), the crunchy part of the concept was to debuff enemies and hit 'em with %procs for damage and control.

 

I settled on /Poison as the secondary, but I didn't lean into it as hard as I would have for an explicitly MOAR BETTA build.

[Parabola]

6 hours ago, Carnifax said:

So, as Maxim says I got the poison, what's your remedy?

This

 

He also does a cover of smack my b up which is one of the best things I've ever seen.

[roleki]

This is Dr. Jonas, my CIA-themed Mind/Poison/Stone controller, mainly used for soloing.  Not much in the way of Def/Res, but between Mass Hypnosis, Mass Confuse, two ST holds, two AoE holds, a spammable AoE fear, and multiple sources of -ToHit, it's rare that he gets hit by anything and even rarer that something hits him twice.  It'll be less fun when the proc nerf hits but in the meantime, it's a mob evaporator and a lot of fun to run.  

 

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Dr. Jonas: Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Mind Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Mesmerize -- Dvs-Acc/Dmg(A), Dvs-Hold%(3)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Absorb%(3)
Level 2: Dominate -- GhsWdwEmb-EndRdx/Hold(A), GhsWdwEmb-Acc/EndRdx(5), GhsWdwEmb-Acc/Hold/Rchg(5), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(7), Lck-%Hold(7), Dvs-Hold%(9)
Level 4: Envenom -- HO:Lyso(A), HO:Lyso(13), AchHee-ResDeb%(15)
Level 6: Weaken -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(15), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), CldSns-%Dam(17)
Level 8: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Confuse -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(19), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(19), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(21), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(21), CrcPrs-Conf%(23)
Level 14: Mass Hypnosis -- FrtHyp-Sleep(A), FrtHyp-Sleep/Rchg(23), FrtHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(25), FrtHyp-Acc/Rchg(25), FrtHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(27), FrtHyp-Plct%(27)
Level 16: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 20: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Total Domination -- UnbCns-Hold(A), UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(29), UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(31), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(31), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(31)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33), GldArm-3defTpProc(34), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(50)
Level 28: Paralytic Poison -- GhsWdwEmb-EndRdx/Hold(A), GhsWdwEmb-Acc/EndRdx(34), GhsWdwEmb-Acc/Hold/Rchg(36), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(36), Lck-%Hold(36)
Level 30: Terrify -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(37), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(37), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(39), GlmoftheA-Dam%(39)
Level 32: Mass Confusion -- MlsIll-Acc/Rchg(A), MlsIll-EndRdx/Conf(39), MlsIll-Acc/EndRdx(40), MlsIll-Conf/Rng(40), MlsIll-Acc/Conf/Rchg(40), MlsIll-Dam%(42)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), Arm-Dam%(42), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(42), Erd-%Dam(43), NrnSht-Dam%(43), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(43)
Level 38: Venomous Gas -- HO:Enzym(A), HO:Enzym(45), AchHee-ResDeb%(45)
Level 41: Fissure -- SuddAcc-KB/Acc(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(45), PstBls-Dam%(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Dam%(46), TchofDth-Dam%(48), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(48), NrnSht-Dam%(48), Mk'Bit-Dam%(50)
Level 47: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Pnc-Heal/+End(11)
Level 2: Stamina -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(11), PrfShf-End%(13)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
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[Uun]

Illusion/Poison here. Since you can't buff Phantom Army, debuffs synergize quite well. Can solo AVs if that's your thing. 

[Carnifax]

2 hours ago, 5099y_74c05 said:

Overall I would consider PROCing Envenom and Poison Trap. Poison Trap creates multiple overlapping clouds (AoEs), one on each target. Each cloud checks individually on all the targets in its AoE

Well now, this I didn't know. I did have Envenom procced up but cannabilised it. But silly proc trick I'm all over. 

 

Think I'm going Elec/Poison, just because I've never gotten near 50 with Elec (as far as Gremlins maybe). Already have a Grav, Illusion and Plant on the way which is why I didn't consider them. 

 

 

 

 

[Nemu]

Be a man, roll ice/poison. Play the walking simulator you've always wanted out of CoH

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
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Vivacious Viv: Level 50 Science Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(19), Lck-Rchg/Hold(19), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(21), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(21), Lck-%Hold(23)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- HO:Golgi(A)
Level 2: Envenom -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(3), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(3), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(5), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), ShlBrk-%Dam(7)
Level 4: Weaken -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(7), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(9), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(9), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), CldSns-%Dam(11)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(15), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(17), CrcPrs-Conf%(17)
Level 8: Super Speed -- WntGif-ResSlow(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(50)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(50)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Elixir of Life -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 18: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Antidote -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(40), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(40)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(25), LucoftheG-Def(25)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(27), Lck-Rchg/Hold(27), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), Lck-%Hold(31)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(29), LucoftheG-Def(29)
Level 30: Frostbite -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(34)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(34), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(36), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), BldMnd-Acc(36), BldMnd-Dmg(37)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(39)
Level 38: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 41: Mind Over Body -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(42), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Ags-ResDam(42), Ags-Psi/Status(43)
Level 44: Psionic Tornado -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(45), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), FrcFdb-Rechg%(46)
Level 47: Venomous Gas -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(48), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(48), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(48)
Level 49: World of Confusion -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(40), PrfShf-End%(46)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
Level 50: Support Core Embodiment
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
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[Braddack]

Ilusion / Poison Controler is my main.

 

Since lvl 18 i have no Problems anymore,

 

Ofc after Perma PA the game fully changed, there is nothing i cant do.

 

[Carnifax]

So I built an Elec/Poison in Beta and kitted them out. 

 

@Coyote's End concerns immediately cropped up. So I gutted Alkaloid and used the slots to slot toggled and Health a bit better. Quite entertaining overall though, not the single hard lockdown of other sets (some were confused, some were asleep, others were choking to death and some were just standing around twiddling their thumbs. All were falling over constantly).

 

Spoiler

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Electric Control
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Tesla Cage -- Lck-Acc/Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Rchg(3), Lck-Rchg/Hold(3), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Lck-%Hold(7)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- Heal-I(A)
Level 2: Envenom -- HO:Lyso(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(7)
Level 4: Electric Fence -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(15), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(15), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(17), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(17), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(19)
Level 6: Weaken -- HO:Lyso(A), HO:Lyso(21)
Level 8: Jolting Chain -- Acc-I(A), Apc-Dam%(13), GldJvl-Dam%(23), FrcFdb-Rechg%(23), ExpStr-Dam%(25)
Level 10: Conductive Aura -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(27)
Level 12: Static Field -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 18: Paralyzing Blast -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(40), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 20: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(9)
Level 22: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(19), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(34)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(11)
Level 26: Synaptic Overload -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(31), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(31), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(33), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(37), CrcPrs-Conf%(25)
Level 28: Antidote -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Gremlins -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- GldNet-Dam%(A), Obl-%Dam(21), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(40), NrnSht-Dam%(40), Arm-Dam%(42)
Level 38: Venomous Gas -- HO:Enzym(A), HO:Enzym(42), HO:Enzym(42)
Level 41: Fissure -- Artl-End/Rech/Rng(A), Artl-Acc/Dam(29), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(13), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dam%(43), TchofDth-Dam%(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), UnbCns-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(27)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(9), PrfShf-EndMod(45)
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