What makes for a healthy game community?

[Aurora_Girl]

  On 12/22/2021 at 1:27 AM, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

Numerical purity.

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He said, menacingly. 

[Shred Monkey]

  On 12/22/2021 at 1:27 AM, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

Numerical purity.

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I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but whenever I come across a game with perfectly balanced powers. I hate it.  I spend all my time min-maxing and never find anything that puts me ahead of the curve.

[SeraphimKensai]

  On 12/22/2021 at 12:30 PM, Shred Monkey said:

 whenever I come across a game with perfectly balanced powers. I hate it.

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You have a valid point there. I am a min-maxer as well, I get a certain satisfaction competing with a player using an overpowered character while using a "commonly believed to be under powered" character and getting that "whoa" reaction.

 

Case in point out damaging several pug blasters while using my plants/trick arrow controller. I've literally been sent tells by a team leader who must of been friends with the pug blaster, asking if I'd slow down as the blaster wants a chance to kill things too.

 

If everything is perfectly balanced you end up with essentially flipping a coin and other than any masochistic statisticians who gets enjoyment out of continual coin flipping?

[Wobegone]

  On 12/22/2021 at 12:30 PM, Shred Monkey said:

 

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but whenever I come across a game with perfectly balanced powers. I hate it.  I spend all my time min-maxing and never find anything that puts me ahead of the curve.

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Can you give me an example of a game that was perfectly balanced?

[JasperStone]

  On 12/21/2021 at 5:41 PM, Luminara said:

Proteins, carbohydrates and fats in the appropriate proportions, and some leafy greens for minerals.

 

Cheeseburgers with everything, for everyone!

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You misspelled bacon ......

[Luminara]

  On 12/22/2021 at 3:22 PM, JasperStone said:

You misspelled bacon ......

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Sorry.

 

Cheeseburgers with everything, for bacon!

 

P.S. People aren't bacon, they're long pork.

[SeraphimKensai]

  On 12/22/2021 at 3:08 PM, Ignatz the Insane said:

Can you give me an example of a game that was perfectly balanced?

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Chess is balanced, however skill determines the outcome.

 

That said I've never see an MMO perfectly balanced, although some achieve a semblance of balance on at least on an apples to apples approach as opposed to an apples to oranges approach.

[Yomo Kimyata]

  On 12/22/2021 at 12:30 PM, Shred Monkey said:

 

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but whenever I come across a game with perfectly balanced powers. I hate it.  I spend all my time min-maxing and never find anything that puts me ahead of the curve.

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  On 12/22/2021 at 1:25 PM, SeraphimKensai said:

You have a valid point there. I am a min-maxer as well, I get a certain satisfaction competing with a player using an overpowered character while using a "commonly believed to be under powered" character and getting that "whoa" reaction.

 

Case in point out damaging several pug blasters while using my plants/trick arrow controller. I've literally been sent tells by a team leader who must of been friends with the pug blaster, asking if I'd slow down as the blaster wants a chance to kill things too.

 

If everything is perfectly balanced you end up with essentially flipping a coin and other than any masochistic statisticians who gets enjoyment out of continual coin flipping?

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I am a min-maxxer (-maxer) as well, but I strongly prefer games (and real life situations) with multiple optimal outcomes (like is it -maxxer or -maxer?  Don't care!  Both are optimal based on how much you like the letter 'x'!) depending on what you're trying to achieve.  Fortunately, this game is great with letting players excel with "good enough."

 

Now, let's see if we can get other players to be down with being "good enough"!

[Bill Z Bubba]

  On 12/22/2021 at 12:30 PM, Shred Monkey said:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but whenever I come across a game with perfectly balanced powers. I hate it.  I spend all my time min-maxing and never find anything that puts me ahead of the curve.

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Power X should do the same base damage (affected by AT mods AND activation time,) cost the same end and have the same recharge across all archetypes.

If archetype A has 30% more overall mitigation than archetype B, it should dish out 30% less overall damage.

Etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.

[Albion]

Someone has to say it so here it goes... MIN MAXING IS NOT HEALTHY FOR ANY GAME  *escapes*