Fatal Tech Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I can't find much in the way of current information on Victory Rush. Most of what I find via forum search are old threads talking about it being buggy and not really understanding what the power does or how it behaves. I've seen the following from various threads: It's only beneficial if targeted off a Boss or higher. It's recharge time isn't enhanceable. It accepts endurance mods but they apparently don't have any effect. Doesn't effect pets. Is all this still true? A few other questions: I'm unclear if any procs actually trigger or if they would even be worth it. I assume there is a high chance they fire, but with such a high recharge, I assume it's not really worth it? Are the values the same on all classes? I have a power selection at 49 that I dont have much need for and I'm debating Victory Rush and Teleport Target. Would love to try VR but if it's a waste I dont want to bother with a respec almost immediately. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobegone Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 The benefits depend on the rank of (defeated) foe. It'll still work on Minions and Lts. The recharge isn't enhanceable. It ignores enhancements. City of Data says: Player Teammate (alive), Self. CoD says: "Ignores enhancements and other boosts". I'm assuming that means procs, but not entirely sure. Seems to be the same regardless of Archtype. With the number of respecs we get, you can see if it gets any use. However, few level 50 teams need additional +Recovery and -End Cost. So highly situational. I could see it being quite beneficial when Incarnates aren't available though. Plenty of high level builds rely on Ageless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onlyasandwich Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) It's a pretty decent one slot wonder if you really need the extra end support and other options aren't appealing. However it is fiddly to use. The main issue is that you can't create a macro that only targets boss or Lt corpses, so you have to manually target to make it worthwhile. If it hits a minion it is useless. I have tried it a few times and it worked, but always end up respeccing out. As far as the effect goes on LTs or Bosses, it's very strong. I used it on my Demon/Dark MM who has tons of toggles and expensive attacks with no special end tools. Popping VR on LT or Boss allowed me to spam attacks/other powers to my heart's content, and MM attacks are intentionally overpriced on end usage. Edited January 13, 2022 by Onlyasandwich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksr9997 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I have this 6 slotted with Preemptive Optimization. I guess that was a really worthless use of slots and enhancers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomguide2005 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, rksr9997 said: I have this 6 slotted with Preemptive Optimization. I guess that was a really worthless use of slots and enhancers. Not necessarily if the set bonuses are good for the overall build. Might not be ideal but worthless doesn't always follow either. Really depends on the build as a whole. May want to start a thread posting up your build for comment and suggestion. Fortunately respecs are readily available so if the consensus is in fact oops changing things up is a ready option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 7:24 PM, Fatal Tech said: Thoughts? https://forums.homecomingservers.com/beta/ >> Character Copy << Save yourself a respec. Take your character to one of the test servers and try it out. 1 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainguy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, Troo said: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/beta/ >> Character Copy << Save yourself a respec. Take your character to one of the test servers and try it out. I also thought there was a way to auto level with some command and then some menu pop to get any IOs you want 1 Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, plainguy said: I also thought there was a way to auto level with some command and then some menu pop to get any IOs you want Yep. Though if you've already leveled up to where there is a choice. Copying over and making one power selection is wicked easy. (that's at least my thought) "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrythlind Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 My team compliment is: Widow Dark/Dark tank Earth/Kin troller Rad/Rad corruptor Elec/Cold corruptor Pistols/Martial blaster Psi/-- scrapper (uncertain their defense) Dark/Fire defender (me) We have speed boost, but I'm still seeing some request for endurance... the Dark will get Dark Consumption and she's most of where the request comes from, but I'm wondering if picking up Victory Rush would be good for me (already have Tactics and Assault) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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