Show me your "Pools Only" Builds

Spaghetti Betty · June 7, 2022

Look, I know they're out there. I wanna see how far we can push the notion of "Average Joe". Did you try different ATs? What pools synergized the best with eachother? Maybe one day we can team all of our power pool only toons together to create the ultimate Legion of Suck.

I'll post mine first.

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

pool party: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(13), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(23), FrcFdb-Rechg%(25)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(11)
Level 6: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(50), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(50), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 8: Pacify -- Acc-I(A)
Level 10: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 12: Jump Kick -- KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), Rct-Def(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-Def/Rchg(21)
Level 18: Cross Punch -- HO:Nucle(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(29), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(29), Erd-%Dam(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(31)
Level 20: Intimidate -- Acc-I(A)
Level 22: Invoke Panic -- UnsTrr-Acc/Rchg(A), UnsTrr-EndRdx/Fear(37), UnsTrr-Acc/EndRdx(39), UnsTrr-Fear/Rng(39), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(39)
Level 24: Injection -- IceMisTrmt-+ColdDmg(A)
Level 26: Aid Self -- IntRdx-I(A), IntRdx-I(31), Prv-Heal/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal(37)
Level 28: Field Medic -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Spring Attack -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Obl-%Dam(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), Erd-%Dam(33)
Level 35: Unrelenting -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(36), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(36), Pnc-Heal(37)
Level 38: Mace Blast -- HO:Nucle(A), GldJvl-Dam%(40), Apc-Dam%(40), ExpStr-Dam%(46)
Level 41: Web Envelope -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Disruptor Blast -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(45), Ann-ResDeb%(45), Ann-Acc/Dmg(46), Ann-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Summon Blaster -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(25)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(27), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(27)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: High Pain Threshold
Level 50: Invader
Level 50: Marshal
Level 50: Born In Battle
Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
Level 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface
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JJDrakken · June 7, 2022

10 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Look, I know they're out there. I wanna see how far we can push the notion of "Average Joe". Did you try different ATs? What pools synergized the best with eachother? Maybe one day we can team all of our power pool only toons together to create the ultimate Legion of Suck.

I'll post mine first.

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

pool party: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(13), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(23), FrcFdb-Rechg%(25)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(11)
Level 6: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(50), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(50), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 8: Pacify -- Acc-I(A)
Level 10: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 12: Jump Kick -- KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), Rct-Def(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-Def/Rchg(21)
Level 18: Cross Punch -- HO:Nucle(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(29), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(29), Erd-%Dam(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(31)
Level 20: Intimidate -- Acc-I(A)
Level 22: Invoke Panic -- UnsTrr-Acc/Rchg(A), UnsTrr-EndRdx/Fear(37), UnsTrr-Acc/EndRdx(39), UnsTrr-Fear/Rng(39), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(39)
Level 24: Injection -- IceMisTrmt-+ColdDmg(A)
Level 26: Aid Self -- IntRdx-I(A), IntRdx-I(31), Prv-Heal/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal(37)
Level 28: Field Medic -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Spring Attack -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Obl-%Dam(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), Erd-%Dam(33)
Level 35: Unrelenting -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(36), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(36), Pnc-Heal(37)
Level 38: Mace Blast -- HO:Nucle(A), GldJvl-Dam%(40), Apc-Dam%(40), ExpStr-Dam%(46)
Level 41: Web Envelope -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Disruptor Blast -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(45), Ann-ResDeb%(45), Ann-Acc/Dmg(46), Ann-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Summon Blaster -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(25)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(27), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(27)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: High Pain Threshold
Level 50: Invader
Level 50: Marshal
Level 50: Born In Battle
Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
Level 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface
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Blaster - Dual Pistols - Atomic Manipulation.mxd

Yomo Kimyata · June 7, 2022

I'll bite.

I'm assuming the restriction is only pool powers when you can take them, so only your first three powers come from your primary/secondary? I'm focusing on a build that should be able to solo 1-50 through "normal" content. Maybe not +4, but probably +3/x8.

The hard part is finding four pools (and one ancillary) that you can take enough powers from! I went Fighting (for pretty obvious reasons), Leaping (for Combat Jumping and Acrobatics. It's been a dog's age since I took the latter but you need *some* mez mitigation. Spring Attack for an AoE -res debuff!), Medicine (self-heal, Injection as a single target debuffer), and Force of Will (mainly for Unleash Potential, but Weaken Resolve also as a single target debuffer). Soul Mastery for Gloom and -to hit debuff.

The power selection order can certainly be optimized over this quick build, but I think it will get us where we are going. Slowly, of course.

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Electric Armor
Secondary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Force of Will
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Charged Armor
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(3) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(36) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 1: Defensive Sweep
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All): Level 50
(7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50

Level 2: Lightning Field
(A) Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun: Level 20
(11) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
(11) DSync:D-Sync Efficiency
(13) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb: Level 50
(13) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(15) DSync:D-Sync Efficiency

Level 4: Combat Jumping
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
(15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(27) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All): Level 50
(27) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage: Level 50

Level 6: Super Jump
(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 50

Level 8: Weaken Resolve
(A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
(29) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20
(48) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50

Level 10: Boxing
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(29) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

Level 12: Kick
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(25) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 14: Acrobatics
(A) Knockback Distance IO: Level 50

Level 16: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(17) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50
(17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(21) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP: Level 50

Level 18: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(21) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(23) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure

Level 20: Cross Punch
(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(31) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50

Level 22: Injection
(A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
(23) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50
(25) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge: Level 50

Level 24: Aid Self
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Panacea - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Panacea - Heal: Level 50

Level 26: Field Medic
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 28: Project Will
(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(46) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 30: Wall of Force
(A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
(42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 32: Unleash Potential
(A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Rechage: Level 50
(39) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy: Level 50

Level 35: Gloom
(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50

Level 38: Soul Tentacles
(A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(39) Artillery - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Artillery - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range: Level 50
(46) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range: Level 50

Level 41: Darkest Night
(A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(42) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(42) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure

Level 44: Dark Obliteration
(A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(45) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize: Level 50
(45) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(50) DSync:D-Sync Optimization

Level 47: Spring Attack
(A) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 50
(50) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50

Level 49: Mighty Leap
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50

Level 1: Brawl
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold: Level 50

Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 1: Swift
(A) Empty

Level 1: Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50
(36) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(48) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50

Level 1: Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 1: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
(50) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50

Level 1:   Momentum
Level 6:   Double Jump
Level 49:   Takeoff
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Spaghetti Betty · June 7, 2022

4 hours ago, JJDrakken said:

Blaster - Dual Pistols - Atomic Manipulation.mxd 4.85 kB · 2 downloads

Going Blaster for Scorpion Shield is an amazing idea. This one is really strong, but unfortunately having Hail of Bullets steps on the restrictions a bit.

Spaghetti Betty · June 7, 2022

2 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

I'll bite.

I'm assuming the restriction is only pool powers when you can take them, so only your first three powers come from your primary/secondary? I'm focusing on a build that should be able to solo 1-50 through "normal" content. Maybe not +4, but probably +3/x8.

The hard part is finding four pools (and one ancillary) that you can take enough powers from! I went Fighting (for pretty obvious reasons), Leaping (for Combat Jumping and Acrobatics. It's been a dog's age since I took the latter but you need *some* mez mitigation. Spring Attack for an AoE -res debuff!), Medicine (self-heal, Injection as a single target debuffer), and Force of Will (mainly for Unleash Potential, but Weaken Resolve also as a single target debuffer). Soul Mastery for Gloom and -to hit debuff.

The power selection order can certainly be optimized over this quick build, but I think it will get us where we are going. Slowly, of course.

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Electric Armor
Secondary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Force of Will
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1:   Charged Armor
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(3) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(36) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 1:   Defensive Sweep
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All): Level 50
(7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50

Level 2:   Lightning Field
(A) Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun: Level 20
(11) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
(11) DSync:D-Sync Efficiency
(13) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb: Level 50
(13) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(15) DSync:D-Sync Efficiency

Level 4:   Combat Jumping
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
(15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(27) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All): Level 50
(27) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage: Level 50

Level 6:   Super Jump
(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 50

Level 8:   Weaken Resolve
(A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
(29) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20
(48) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50

Level 10:   Boxing
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(29) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

Level 12:   Kick
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(25) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 14:   Acrobatics
(A) Knockback Distance IO: Level 50

Level 16:   Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(17) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50
(17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(21) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP: Level 50

Level 18:   Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(21) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(23) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure

Level 20:   Cross Punch
(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(31) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50

Level 22:   Injection
(A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
(23) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50
(25) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge: Level 50

Level 24:   Aid Self
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Panacea - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Panacea - Heal: Level 50

Level 26:   Field Medic
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 28:   Project Will
(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(46) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 30:   Wall of Force
(A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
(42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 32:   Unleash Potential
(A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Rechage: Level 50
(39) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy: Level 50

Level 35:   Gloom
(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50

Level 38:   Soul Tentacles
(A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(39) Artillery - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Artillery - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range: Level 50
(46) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range: Level 50

Level 41:   Darkest Night
(A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(42) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(42) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure

Level 44:   Dark Obliteration
(A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(45) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize: Level 50
(45) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(50) DSync:D-Sync Optimization

Level 47:   Spring Attack
(A) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 50
(50) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50

Level 49:   Mighty Leap
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50

Level 1:   Brawl
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold: Level 50

Level 1:   Gauntlet
Level 1:   Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2:   Rest
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Swift
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50
(36) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(48) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50

Level 1:   Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
(50) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50

Level 1:   Momentum
Level 6:   Double Jump
Level 49:   Takeoff
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You are correct. For it to truly be "pools only", you get whatever picks you make at 1 and 2, then power/epic pools only from level 4 and onward. This has been an interesting concept to me because what AT and primary/secondary you pick can actually influence other power picks you make pretty heavily. It leads to some really unique takes.

I think it's crazy that your Tank looks like it could really take some blows, even with no substantial armor. Now if we had a pools-only Defender or Controller, we could really get something going here. Look out, Lord Recluse...

Six-Six · June 7, 2022

I've got an average Pool Boy Joe, if Joe was a Demon girl. Demons/Kin MM. I'm afraid I don't have MIDs and I'm too lazy to type out the build. Will you settle for power picks?

Primary. Summon Demonlings
Secondary. Transfusion, Siphon Power

Pool Powers.
Fighting. All
Leadership. Maneuvres, Assault, Tactics
Sorcery. All
Presence. All except Pacify
Heat Mastery. All except Rise of the Phoenix

Spaghetti Betty · June 7, 2022

37 minutes ago, Six-Six said:

I've got an average Pool Boy Joe, if Joe was a Demon girl. Demons/Kin MM. I'm afraid I don't have MIDs and I'm too lazy to type out the build. Will you settle for power picks?

Primary. Summon Demonlings
Secondary. Transfusion, Siphon Power

Pool Powers.
Fighting. All
Leadership. Maneuvres, Assault, Tactics
Sorcery. All
Presence. All except Pacify
Heat Mastery. All except Rise of the Phoenix

Not necessary. I can see where you're going. At least you get 3 meat shields, right? And having the pets means you can bounce Sorcery powers off of them. Nice idea!

JJDrakken · June 7, 2022

1 hour ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Going Blaster for Scorpion Shield is an amazing idea. This one is really strong, but unfortunately having Hail of Bullets steps on the restrictions a bit.

Took it to hold a recipe over it's use TBH. 😛

Spaghetti Betty · June 7, 2022

10 minutes ago, JJDrakken said:

Took it to hold a recipe over it's use TBH. 😛

So that'll be 2 citations, 1 for muling a nuke, and 1 for taking Metabolic Acceleration. See you in court!

It's not that big of a deal. We have fun here.

Six-Six · June 7, 2022

I've got another one stalled at 28, a Psi melee/Bio scrapper. The first two powers of Bio are a good bang for the buck. His attacks come from the Fighting pool, with his primary psi blade like a special attack. I took Force of Will since the animation lent itself nicely with the psi melee concept. But FoW attacks animate soooooo sloooooow that it's frustrating. I might go back to it one of these days after my other projects are done.

Spaghetti Betty · June 7, 2022

50 minutes ago, Six-Six said:

I've got another one stalled at 28, a Psi melee/Bio scrapper. The first two powers of Bio are a good bang for the buck. His attacks come from the Fighting pool, with his primary psi blade like a special attack. I took Force of Will since the animation lent itself nicely with the psi melee concept. But FoW attacks animate soooooo sloooooow that it's frustrating. I might go back to it one of these days after my other projects are done.

Mid 20s-low 30s was a stagnation point for my pools only toon as well. This is the range where mobs start getting a lot of tools that a gimped toon just can't deal with. Getting constantly gunned down by Council as a melee AT is a special kind of frustration I haven't had to deal with since pre-IO days.

It does make for a fun challenge though. You really have to pick your scenarios well or eat dirt.

Edited June 7, 2022 by Spaghetti Betty

Yomo Kimyata · June 8, 2022

6 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

I think it's crazy that your Tank looks like it could really take some blows, even with no substantial armor. Now if we had a pools-only Defender or Controller, we could really get something going here. Look out, Lord Recluse...

For a defender, my first thought is something like this:

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Tar Patch
(A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow: Level 50
(3) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow: Level 50
(5) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(7) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow: Level 50
(7) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 50
(9) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge: Level 50

Level 1: Shriek
(A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(45) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50
(46) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(46) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 2: Darkest Night
(A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(45) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(45) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure

Level 4: Kick
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 6: Arcane Bolt
(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50

Level 8: Mystic Flight
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50

Level 10: Boxing
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(11) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

Level 12: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(13) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(13) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure

Level 14: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(15) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50
(15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 16: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(17) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(17) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(40) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30

Level 18: Cross Punch
(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(23) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 20: Rune of Protection
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(21) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP: Level 50

Level 22: Enflame
(A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50
(50) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50

Level 24: Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50

Level 26: Aid Other
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(27) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Panacea - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Panacea - Heal: Level 50

Level 28: Aid Self
(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal: Level 50
(29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(29) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50
(31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50

Level 30: Field Medic
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 32: Victory Rush
(A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed: Level 50
(33) Synapse's Shock - EndMod: Level 50
(33) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50

Level 35: Oppressive Gloom
(A) Absolute Amazement - Stun: Level 50
(36) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun: Level 50
(37) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50

Level 38: Dark Consumption
(A) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50
(39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 41: Dark Embrace
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(43) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 44: Soul Transfer
(A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback: Level 50

Level 47: Soul Drain
(A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
(48) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 50
(48) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(48) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff: Level 20
(50) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 20
(50) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception: Level 20

Level 49: Vengeance
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 1: Vigilance
Level 1: Brawl
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(3) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold: Level 50

Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 1: Swift
(A) Empty

Level 1: Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 1: Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50

Level 1: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50

Level 6: Arcane Power
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Bionic_Flea · June 8, 2022

Pool Man lives! Or well, he lived once upon a time. This is an old build that was surprisingly fun to play - Whirlpool, Geyser, Spring Attack while shouting "CANNONBALL!!!" If I timed it right I would land just as the splash from Geyser went up.

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https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Pool Man: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Poison
Secondary Power Set: Water Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Envenom -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(21), TchofLadG-%Dam(21), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(23)
Level 1: Aqua Bolt -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(7)
Level 2: Hydro Blast -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(11)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- Rct-ResDam%(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(13), Krm-ResKB(15)
Level 6: Injection -- HO:Lyso(A)
Level 8: Aid Other -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 10: Whirlpool -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(23), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(31), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(33)
Level 12: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 14: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Aid Self -- DctWnd-Heal(A)
Level 18: Field Medic -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(43), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(43), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(43), GssSynFr--Build%(46)
Level 22: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(36), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(27), UnbGrd-Max HP%(27), UnbGrd-ResDam(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 30: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(39)
Level 32: Dehydrate -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 38: Spring Attack -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Arm-Acc/Rchg(39), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Arm-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Kick -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Geyser -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(45), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(46), JvlVll-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Water Jet -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Rchg(48), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Venomous Gas -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(50), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(50), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17), EndMod-I(19)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 50: Support Radial Embodiment
Level 50: Cryonic Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 35: Double Jump
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Edited June 8, 2022 by Bionic_Flea

Spaghetti Betty · June 8, 2022

5 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

For a defender, my first thought is something like this:

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:   Tar Patch
(A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow: Level 50
(3) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow: Level 50
(5) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(7) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow: Level 50
(7) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 50
(9) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge: Level 50

Level 1:   Shriek
(A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(45) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50
(46) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(46) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 2:   Darkest Night
(A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(45) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(45) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure

Level 4:   Kick
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 6:   Arcane Bolt
(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50

Level 8:   Mystic Flight
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50

Level 10:   Boxing
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(11) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

Level 12:   Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(13) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(13) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure

Level 14:   Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(15) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50
(15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(19) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50

Level 16:   Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
(17) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(17) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(40) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30

Level 18:   Cross Punch
(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(23) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 20:   Rune of Protection
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(21) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP: Level 50

Level 22:   Enflame
(A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50
(50) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50

Level 24:   Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50

Level 26:   Aid Other
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(27) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Panacea - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Panacea - Heal: Level 50

Level 28:   Aid Self
(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal: Level 50
(29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(29) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50
(31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50

Level 30:   Field Medic
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 32:   Victory Rush
(A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed: Level 50
(33) Synapse's Shock - EndMod: Level 50
(33) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50

Level 35:   Oppressive Gloom
(A) Absolute Amazement - Stun: Level 50
(36) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun: Level 50
(37) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50

Level 38:   Dark Consumption
(A) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50
(39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 41:   Dark Embrace
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50
(42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50
(42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(43) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 44:   Soul Transfer
(A) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback: Level 50

Level 47:   Soul Drain
(A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
(48) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 50
(48) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(48) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff: Level 20
(50) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 20
(50) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception: Level 20

Level 49:   Vengeance
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 1:   Vigilance
Level 1:   Brawl
(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(3) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold: Level 50

Level 1:   Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2:   Rest
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Swift
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50

Level 1:   Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50

Level 6:   Arcane Power
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So I opened this up and laughed, because it actually looks pretty damn strong considering the context. What an amazing defender to support our superteam.

Nemu · June 8, 2022

Here comes a new Challenger!

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot -- SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(5), SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(7)
Level 1: Crab Spider Armor Upgrade -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(9)
Level 4: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(13)
Level 6: Boxing -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mk'Bit-Dam%(17)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), WntGif-ResSlow(19)
Level 10: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(19)
Level 12: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-ResDam%(23)
Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 16: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Erd-%Dam(25), Obl-%Dam(25), ScrDrv-Dam%(27), FrcFdb-Rechg%(27)
Level 18: Enflame -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(29), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(31), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 20: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def(33), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33)
Level 24: Jump Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Spring Attack -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(36)
Level 28: Kick -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Hct-Acc/Rchg(36), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Hct-Dam%(37)
Level 30: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 32: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A)
Level 35: Spirit Shark -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(39), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 38: School of Sharks -- GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(A), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(40), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(40), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(42), GrvAnc-Hold%(42)
Level 41: Arctic Breath -- ShlBrk-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(42), ImpSwf-Dam%(43), IceMisTrmt-+ColdDmg(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(45)
Level 44: Bile Spray -- SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), JvlVll-Dam%(45), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46)
Level 47: Summon Guardian -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(48), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning | Hidden
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(7), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 4: Arcane Power
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Procced out arctic breath is very strong. You will need plenty of external acc bonuses to forgo any accuracy slotting in it. Since you get a freespec at 24 I don't consider picking crab armor instead of wolf armor cheating. This gives you mez protection and range softcap. If you really need a heal there are P2W temps for that.

Yomo Kimyata · June 8, 2022

7 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

So I opened this up and laughed, because it actually looks pretty damn strong considering the context. What an amazing defender to support our superteam.

I love crafting (and often playing) these kinds of builds, ones with serious constraints. If you asked me to make the most powerful and enjoyable melee alt, I'd freeze. But if you ask me to make one that can only use ranged attacks, I'd be happy as a clam and make one that can solo +4/x8 content.

Spaghetti Betty · June 8, 2022

I took a crack at a Controller. Now AVs will be no problem! maybe

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Controller? I barely know er: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(34), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(36), NrnSht-Dam%(37), UnbCns-Dam%(37)
Level 1: Radiant Aura -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(13), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(13), Pnc-Heal(15)
Level 2: Radiation Infection -- DS:DSyncEndDefDebuffToHitDebuff(A), DS:DSyncEndDefDebuffToHitDebuff(5), AchHee-ResDeb%(7)
Level 4: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Jump Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(31), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(33), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(33), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 12: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45)
Level 14: Acrobatics -- KBDist-I(A)
Level 16: Spring Attack -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(19), FrcFdb-Rechg%(21)
Level 18: Enflame -- Ann-ResDeb%(A), Ann-Dmg/Rchg(21), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(29), GldArm-RechRes(31), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(31), GldArm-RechEnd(39), GldArm-ResDam(39)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-Def(29), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Rune of Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(46), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(46), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27), Rct-ResDam%(27)
Level 28: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 30: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Victory Rush -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(33)
Level 35: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(36), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 38: Water Spout -- DS:DSyncDamRech(A), DS:DSyncDamRech(39)
Level 41: Bile Spray -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(43)
Level 44: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Shark Skin -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Summon Coralax -- CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(A), CaltoArm-Acc/Rchg(50), CaltoArm-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(5)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(3), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(3)
Level 4: Arcane Power
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment
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Spaghetti Betty · June 8, 2022

9 hours ago, Nemu said:
Here comes a new Challenger!

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot -- SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(5), SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(7)
Level 1: Crab Spider Armor Upgrade -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(9)
Level 4: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(13)
Level 6: Boxing -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mk'Bit-Dam%(17)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), WntGif-ResSlow(19)
Level 10: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(19)
Level 12: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-ResDam%(23)
Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 16: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Erd-%Dam(25), Obl-%Dam(25), ScrDrv-Dam%(27), FrcFdb-Rechg%(27)
Level 18: Enflame -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(29), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(31), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 20: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def(33), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33)
Level 24: Jump Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Spring Attack -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(36)
Level 28: Kick -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Hct-Acc/Rchg(36), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Hct-Dam%(37)
Level 30: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 32: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A)
Level 35: Spirit Shark -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(39), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 38: School of Sharks -- GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(A), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(40), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(40), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(42), GrvAnc-Hold%(42)
Level 41: Arctic Breath -- ShlBrk-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(42), ImpSwf-Dam%(43), IceMisTrmt-+ColdDmg(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(45)
Level 44: Bile Spray -- SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), JvlVll-Dam%(45), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46)
Level 47: Summon Guardian -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(48), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning | Hidden
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(7), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 4: Arcane Power
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Procced out arctic breath is very strong. You will need plenty of external acc bonuses to forgo any accuracy slotting in it. Since you get a freespec at 24 I don't consider picking crab armor instead of wolf armor cheating. This gives you mez protection and range softcap. If you really need a heal there are P2W temps for that.

This is really cool. I never considered Arctic Breath and how proccable it is. Then again, I can't think of any other instance where you would need it. Nice stuff.

huang3721 · June 9, 2022

I think a pool-only character shouldn't have epic/patron power sets or even Incarnates. IMO, adding such powers defeats the purpose of this thread. You guys are still creating an average Joe, right?

Spaghetti Betty · June 9, 2022

23 minutes ago, huang3721 said:

I think a pool-only character shouldn't have epic/patron power sets or even Incarnates. IMO, adding such powers defeats the purpose of this thread. You guys are still creating an average Joe, right?

Well, as average as one could possibly be at 50. I don't think you could fill every power slot without taking an epic/patron pool.

That is a fair point about the Incarnates though. I mostly added them for the hell of it.

Errants · June 9, 2022

17 hours ago, huang3721 said:

I think a pool-only character shouldn't have epic/patron power sets or even Incarnates. IMO, adding such powers defeats the purpose of this thread. You guys are still creating an average Joe, right?

17 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Well, as average as one could possibly be at 50. I don't think you could fill every power slot without taking an epic/patron pool.

That is a fair point about the Incarnates though. I mostly added them for the hell of it.

24 power choices to 50, 3 Pri/Sec mandatory, and 4 pools with 5 powers each means you're shy 1 power and 3 slots if you don't train to 49. Can still be combat level 50, and never an incarnate.

Yomo Kimyata · June 10, 2022

21 hours ago, huang3721 said:

I think a pool-only character shouldn't have epic/patron power sets or even Incarnates. IMO, adding such powers defeats the purpose of this thread. You guys are still creating an average Joe, right?

If you look at them in isolation, many of the ancillary pools are ridiculously overpowered, depending on the AT. Their design is presumably based on the idea that they will exploit the powers in their primary/secondary. Based on the aforementioned pool power rules (only primary/secondary for first 3 powers), squishies can get as much or more mitigation than melee alts. I'd kill to get controller ancillaries on scrappers. Well, I'd be willing to use harsh words.

Delta · June 10, 2022

This was my Pool-only character, aptly named Pool Girl. I got her to level 31 and so far, she has held her own.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Pool Girl v.2: Level 50 Natural Sentinel
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Blast -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Ninja Reflexes -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(3), Rct-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 2: Danger Sense -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(3), Rct-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 4: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(15), FrcFdb-Rechg%(43)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(15), TchofDth-Dam%(17)
Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39)
Level 10: Boxing -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mk'Bit-Dam%(17)
Level 12: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(50), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(50)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(19), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33)
Level 16: Spirit Ward -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 20: Rune of Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(34), UnbGrd-Max HP%(37)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(23), Rct-Def(23), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 24: Kick -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(25), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(25), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), TchofDth-Dam%(43)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(27), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 28: Cross Punch -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(29), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(48)
Level 30: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(39), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--Build%(48)
Level 32: Vengeance -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Cremate -- Hct-Acc/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Hct-Dam%(36), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(37), TchofDth-Dam%(37)
Level 38: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Fire Sword Circle -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46)
Level 44: Warmth -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(45), Prv-Heal/Rchg(45), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(46), Prv-Absorb%(46)
Level 47: Victory Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Enflame -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Opportunity
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(21), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(21)
Level 4: Arcane Power
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 12: Afterburner
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huang3721 · June 10, 2022

On 6/7/2022 at 10:48 PM, Yomo Kimyata said:

but probably +3/x8.

When I read that "+3/8 solo", I was shocked. Here I am still struggling against "+2/>x1".

Also, my apology for replying but not posting a build. I am trying to use my usual method to make a build, but I am stuck. I'll post it soon.

Spoiler

Pool powers selection is a bit different. For example, purchasing Tough requires Boxing or Kick. I need to convert this into an equation.
If Box, Kick, and Tough are decision (Yes/No) variables, there are several legal and illegal combinations.

Box	Kick	Tough	status
0	0	0	OK
1	0	0	OK
0	1	0	OK
1	1	0	OK
0	0	1	Illegal!
1	0	1	OK
0	1	1	OK
1	1	1	OK

I can use "Box + Kick – Tough >= 0" to filter out that one illegal combination.

Box	Kick	Tough	status	Box + Kick – Tough >= 0
0	0	0	OK	TRUE
1	0	0	OK	TRUE
0	1	0	OK	TRUE
1	1	0	OK	TRUE
0	0	1	Illegal!	FALSE
1	0	1	OK	TRUE
0	1	1	OK	TRUE
1	1	1	OK	TRUE

But then, how about Weave?

Box	Kick	Tough	Weave	status	Equation?😑
0	0	0	0	OK
1	0	0	0	OK
0	1	0	0	OK
1	1	0	0	OK
0	0	1	0	Illegal
1	0	1	0	OK
0	1	1	0	OK
1	1	1	0	OK
0	0	0	1	Illegal!
1	0	0	1	Illegal!
0	1	0	1	Illegal!
1	1	0	1	OK
0	0	1	1	Illegal!
1	0	1	1	OK
0	1	1	1	OK
1	1	1	1	OK

By the way, thanks for reading my problem. I'll figure it out as soon as I can.

Edited June 10, 2022 by huang3721

Yomo Kimyata · June 11, 2022

On 6/10/2022 at 1:39 AM, huang3721 said:

When I read that "+3/8 solo", I was shocked. Here I am still struggling against "+2/>x1".

Also, my apology for replying but not posting a build. I am trying to use my usual method to make a build, but I am stuck. I'll post it soon.

Reveal hidden contents

Pool powers selection is a bit different. For example, purchasing Tough requires Boxing or Kick. I need to convert this into an equation.
If Box, Kick, and Tough are decision (Yes/No) variables, there are several legal and illegal combinations.

Box Kick Tough status
0 0 0 OK
1 0 0 OK
0 1 0 OK
1 1 0 OK
0 0 1 Illegal!
1 0 1 OK
0 1 1 OK
1 1 1 OK

I can use "Box + Kick – Tough >= 0" to filter out that one illegal combination.

Box Kick Tough status Box + Kick – Tough >= 0
0 0 0 OK TRUE
1 0 0 OK TRUE
0 1 0 OK TRUE
1 1 0 OK TRUE
0 0 1 Illegal! FALSE
1 0 1 OK TRUE
0 1 1 OK TRUE
1 1 1 OK TRUE

But then, how about Weave?

Box Kick Tough Weave status Equation?😑
0 0 0 0 OK
1 0 0 0 OK
0 1 0 0 OK
1 1 0 0 OK
0 0 1 0 Illegal
1 0 1 0 OK
0 1 1 0 OK
1 1 1 0 OK
0 0 0 1 Illegal!
1 0 0 1 Illegal!
0 1 0 1 Illegal!
1 1 0 1 OK
0 0 1 1 Illegal!
1 0 1 1 OK
0 1 1 1 OK
1 1 1 1 OK

By the way, thanks for reading my problem. I'll figure it out as soon as I can.

Honestly, I start all my alts at +1/x1 right out of training. I may be optimistic, but I think +3/x8 is doable without too much problem on that tank. Tanks are super easy. I just dinged 17 on her, and she is running at +2/x3. Accuracy and AoE damage ftw.

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