Rad/Fire Respec

[meyerwolf406]

This is my current Fire farm Rad/Fire.  Super durable. but after vet lvl 1100 im looking to change it up.  is there a way to get more damage out of this build? I know I went waaaaay overboard with end and health.  I can run active maps or afk for 30 min or 45 min and never have to worry.  I'm looking for a more active play style build with more damage.  I solo 99% of the time or I'm helping 1 other person PL.  I do not run large farm teams.  

 

Feel free to have your way with the build, Show me what can be done,  let me know your thoughts and cost in not a concern he has built quite the savings for this remodel.

Farmtruck 2.0 - Brute (Radiation Melee).mxd

[Meknomancer]

I ended up respeccing mine so it could survive a bit longer on the new farm maps but even then it'll still get killed if 5+ mobs start to target it with ranged attacks and it has way more regen and hp. If your happy running the older maps with less xp/inf and your going to be fine but as soon as you run the updated ones you have to be pretty active with the heals if your sticking with mu epic. And for damage you have to because mu is still way out in front of the others. I still haven't found a way to keep mu in and get regen and hp high enough to make it a proper afk farmer i'm having to position it around corners to survive if i go afk for a long period and let the wandering mobs roam into me. Standing in the centre of the map is a death sentence. You have some odd slotting like the armageddon in atom smasher instead of burn and 6 slotted for a toxic/psi res bonus that makes no sense. If your running ageless then consume can be dropped. Anyway here's mine not sure it will help i doubt the dps is any better, its probably worse since i had to drop musculature for spiritual to boost the heal and recharge (shield walls are just there for the hp bonus i think i replaced the tp prot with a def/rech):

 

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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Radioactive Smash    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold

Level 1:    Fire Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (7) Aegis - Resistance
 (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2:    Blazing Aura    
 (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
 (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
 (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
 (48) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End

Level 4:    Healing Flames    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (21) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (25) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 6:    Fusion    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 8:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (27) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 10:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (27) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
 (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 12:    Boxing    
 (A) Empty

Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 16:    Plasma Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 18:    Irradiated Ground    
 (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
 (33) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff
 (33) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
 (33) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20:    Assault    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 22:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (34) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
 (36) Shield Wall - Defense
 (36) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance

Level 24:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 26:    Tactics    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 28:    Burn    
 (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (37) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
 (37) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (37) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (39) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (39) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 30:    Super Speed    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 32:    Atom Smasher    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage

Level 35:    Mu Lightning    
 (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (42) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
 (42) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy
 (42) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (43) Apocalypse - Damage

Level 38:    Electrifying Fences    
 (A) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
 (43) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (43) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance

Level 41:    Ball Lightning    
 (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize
 (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
 (47) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 44:    Fiery Embrace    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47:    Temperature Protection    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
 (47) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
 (47) Aegis - Resistance
 (48) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (48) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance

Level 49:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty

Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (9) Miracle - +Recovery
 (11) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
 (11) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
 (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance

Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
 (15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (15) Performance Shifter - EndMod
 (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

Level 30:    Speed Phase    
Level 50:    Spiritual Core Paragon    
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[meyerwolf406]

1 hour ago, Meknomancer said:

I ended up respeccing mine so it could survive a bit longer on the new farm maps but even then it'll still get killed if 5+ mobs start to target it with ranged attacks and it has way more regen and hp. If your happy running the older maps with less xp/inf and your going to be fine but as soon as you run the updated ones you have to be pretty active with the heals if your sticking with mu epic. And for damage you have to because mu is still way out in front of the others. I still haven't found a way to keep mu in and get regen and hp high enough to make it a proper afk farmer i'm having to position it around corners to survive if i go afk for a long period and let the wandering mobs roam into me. Standing in the centre of the map is a death sentence. You have some odd slotting like the armageddon in atom smasher instead of burn and 6 slotted for a toxic/psi res bonus that makes no sense. If your running ageless then consume can be dropped. Anyway here's mine not sure it will help i doubt the dps is any better, its probably worse since i had to drop musculature for spiritual to boost the heal and recharge (shield walls are just there for the hp bonus i think i replaced the tp prot with a def/rech):

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
------------
Level 1:    Radioactive Smash    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold

Level 1:    Fire Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (7) Aegis - Resistance
 (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2:    Blazing Aura    
 (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
 (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
 (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
 (48) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End

Level 4:    Healing Flames    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (21) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (25) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 6:    Fusion    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 8:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (27) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 10:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (27) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
 (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 12:    Boxing    
 (A) Empty

Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 16:    Plasma Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 18:    Irradiated Ground    
 (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
 (33) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff
 (33) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
 (33) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20:    Assault    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 22:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (34) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
 (36) Shield Wall - Defense
 (36) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance

Level 24:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 26:    Tactics    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 28:    Burn    
 (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (37) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
 (37) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (37) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (39) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (39) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 30:    Super Speed    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 32:    Atom Smasher    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage

Level 35:    Mu Lightning    
 (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (42) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
 (42) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy
 (42) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (43) Apocalypse - Damage

Level 38:    Electrifying Fences    
 (A) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
 (43) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (43) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance

Level 41:    Ball Lightning    
 (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize
 (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
 (47) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 44:    Fiery Embrace    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47:    Temperature Protection    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
 (47) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
 (47) Aegis - Resistance
 (48) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (48) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance

Level 49:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty

Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (9) Miracle - +Recovery
 (11) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
 (11) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
 (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance

Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
 (15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (15) Performance Shifter - EndMod
 (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

Level 30:    Speed Phase    
Level 50:    Spiritual Core Paragon    
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Thank you for the build help.  Feel free to make any changes or tweak's to powersets or picks.  Im not a very good out the box thinker and it just blows me away with some of the stuff people come up with that I would NEVER would have even thought to put tougher.  

I am looking for a more active build one that I want to have to actually play.  my current build is good afk and over time has gotten boring so instead of a respec I might to a Alt build so that I have a afk build that already works for me and then a active build for when im feeling board. 

Maybe I'm cheating but when I AFK more then 30 min I turn on my mouse auto clicker for my heal so now I have 2 powers on auto.  with that combination and your regen I think you could fix your Death Sentence issue.

[Meknomancer]

I never considered that good idea, not sure if my mouse has the capabilities for it though 😛

If your going for an active build and not planning to afk often then you can go full on damage and recharge. I can't keep track of who's posted what-this is not my build its just out there on the forums somewhere procs galore and loads of damage and recharge:

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Level 49 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Radioactive Smash    
 (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
 (3) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
 (5) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (5) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
 (7) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 1:    Fire Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (7) Aegis - Resistance
 (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (9) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (11) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge

Level 2:    Blazing Aura    
 (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (15) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
 (15) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
 (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
 (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (19) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 4:    Healing Flames    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (19) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 6:    Fusion    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
 (48) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 8:    Boxing    
 (A) Empty

Level 10:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (25) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 12:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (25) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (27) Aegis - Resistance
 (27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 16:    Plasma Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (31) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge

Level 18:    Irradiated Ground    
 (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (33) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (33) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
 (34) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage

Level 20:    Consume    
 (A) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range
 (34) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge
 (34) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
 (36) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate
 (36) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Range
 (36) Mocking Beratement - Recharge

Level 22:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 24:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 26:    Tactics    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 28:    Burn    
 (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (37) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
 (37) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
 (37) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
 (39) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage

Level 30:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 32:    Atom Smasher    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (42) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage

Level 35:    Fiery Embrace    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 38:    Mu Lightning    
 (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge
 (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (43) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (43) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
 (43) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage

Level 41:    Electrifying Fences    
 (A) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
 (45) Ragnarok - Damage
 (46) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
 (46) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 44:    Ball Lightning    
 (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (47) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (47) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
 (47) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
 (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 47:    Super Speed    
 (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 49:    Temperature Protection    
 (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
 (49) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty

Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (11) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (13) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (13) Performance Shifter - EndMod

Level 47:    Speed Phase    
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[Sanguinesun]

On 10/3/2022 at 8:38 AM, meyerwolf406 said:

This is my current Fire farm Rad/Fire.  Super durable. but after vet lvl 1100 im looking to change it up.  is there a way to get more damage out of this build? I know I went waaaaay overboard with end and health.  I can run active maps or afk for 30 min or 45 min and never have to worry.  I'm looking for a more active play style build with more damage.  I solo 99% of the time or I'm helping 1 other person PL.  I do not run large farm teams.  

 

Feel free to have your way with the build, Show me what can be done,  let me know your thoughts and cost in not a concern he has built quite the savings for this remodel.

Farmtruck 2.0 - Brute (Radiation Melee).mxd 5.23 kB · 9 downloads

 

 

This thread with a more active farmer brute build may be something to look at:

 

 

Looking at your build comparing to Angel's active one, you're at about one fourth the damage output theirs does (roughly speaking).   

 

[brasilgringo]

They just posted the Beta changes to Rad Melee and Fire Armor, including "changes" to Burn and Irrad Ground.  See the beta comment threads to plan ahead.

[Sanguinesun]

Or like back in July when they intended to remove things more from AE, really make your voice and criticisms heard against it to hopefully neuter those intentions.

[Without_Pause]

Good luck with them leaving bugs in.

[meyerwolf406]

22 hours ago, brasilgringo said:

They just posted the Beta changes to Rad Melee and Fire Armor, including "changes" to Burn and Irrad Ground.  See the beta comment threads to plan ahead.

Thanks for the heads up... I wonder how this is going to change the farming hierarchy of builds.  maybe make a SS or a Shield farmer. 

[Skoochy]

4 hours ago, meyerwolf406 said:

Thanks for the heads up... I wonder how this is going to change the farming hierarchy of builds.  maybe make a SS or a Shield farmer. 

SS will get beta treatment soon enough.

[brasilgringo]

I don't understand the Burn-summoning-multiple-patches bug ... can someone explain, since apparently it's being discussed with these changes?  Was it NOT happening on Brutes but only other ATs (Tanker, Blaster, Scapper)?  Did it happen every cast?

[Sanguinesun]

On 10/6/2022 at 4:31 AM, Without_Pause said:

Good luck with them leaving bugs in.

 

If a feature to the game as been in the game since live and you simply don't like it, calling it a bug to justify removal doesn't actually means its a bug.   

 

In other news....

 

 

Devs in today's beta patch reverted burn's doubling of the recharge time and its radius and activation time back to what it was before.

[Skoochy]

7 minutes ago, Sanguinesun said:

 

If a feature to the game as been in the game since live and you simply don't like it, calling it a bug to justify removal doesn't actually means its a bug.   

 

In other news....

 

 

Devs in today's beta patch reverted burn's doubling of the recharge time and its radius and activation time back to what it was before.

True, features that have been in the game 20 years I wouldn't call bugs.

[Sanguinesun]

12 minutes ago, Skoochy said:

True, features that have been in the game 20 years I wouldn't call bugs.

 

Its just a spin tactic certain folks are using for justification of changes they want to see implemented.  I keep seeing this same sort of "its a bug and we need to remove it" silliness on chats on the servers.   Same folks have also shifted their discussion to essentially revealing they want to see all procs removed from the game too (which isn't going to happen).

Edited October 7, 2022 by Sanguinesun

[Skoochy]

35 minutes ago, Sanguinesun said:

 

Its just a spin tactic certain folks are using for justification of changes they want to see implemented.  I keep seeing this same sort of "its a bug and we need to remove it" silliness on chats on the servers.   Same folks have also shifted their discussion to essentially revealing they want to see all procs removed from the game too (which isn't going to happen).

Yeah, its pretty obvious the FA/burn and irradiated changes are a round about way to nerf AE farming. The devs should just say so.

[Without_Pause]

11 hours ago, Skoochy said:

True, features that have been in the game 20 years I wouldn't call bugs.

The game hasn't been around for 20 years. Certainly not with an actual dev team. I wouldn't call the horde of bugs this game has as anything else. Hell, I play another game with an active dev staff for over a decade and that game has bugs rather easy to see. Saying fixing bugs is anything to do with the devs trying to nerf farming is straight up tin foil hat wearing.

[SeraphimKensai]

They reverted the increased recharge time to burn.

 

The real thing though that will affect a lot of maps and AE critters is the proposed changes have fire sword attacks doing -defense now, and a lot of farm maps have critters that attack with fire swords which will drop your fire resistance to negative really fast considering there's no DDR. This will cause AE maps to have to adjust to other attack types.

 

That said the change to irradiated ground was bound to come has it had been unintentionally double procing for years.

Edited October 7, 2022 by SeraphimKensai

[Sovera]

On 10/6/2022 at 11:16 AM, brasilgringo said:

I don't understand the Burn-summoning-multiple-patches bug ... can someone explain, since apparently it's being discussed with these changes?  Was it NOT happening on Brutes but only other ATs (Tanker, Blaster, Scapper)?  Did it happen every cast?

 

Current Burn does damage and then makes a patch of fire appear under each enemy in range. Since all the patches hit everyone it makes every enemy take damage from multiple patches. Then the mechanics also made damage procs fire a second time.

 

Now Burn does damage and then summons just one burn patch. Damage was upped to offset this and tests so far show that the AoE clear is almost the same as before (despite the doom and gloom). On the other hand the single target damage has suffered greatly with the difference between current and test server being about 50% less damage. For a character, not 50% less for Burn.

 

Beta testing is still ongoing so devs might still do something about this.

[Skoochy]

8 hours ago, Without_Pause said:

The game hasn't been around for 20 years. Certainly not with an actual dev team. I wouldn't call the horde of bugs this game has as anything else. Hell, I play another game with an active dev staff for over a decade and that game has bugs rather easy to see. Saying fixing bugs is anything to do with the devs trying to nerf farming is straight up tin foil hat wearing.

Excuse me, 18 + 1/2 years and yes, some of the proposed changes are not due to bugs but how things were designed to work, features, not bugs. Just because you don't like how something was designed or works, doesn't make it a bug.

[Sanguinesun]

11 hours ago, Without_Pause said:

The game hasn't been around for 20 years. Certainly not with an actual dev team. I wouldn't call the horde of bugs this game has as anything else. Hell, I play another game with an active dev staff for over a decade and that game has bugs rather easy to see. Saying fixing bugs is anything to do with the devs trying to nerf farming is straight up tin foil hat wearing.

 

Hasn't been around for 20 years?   Um, the game shut down the official live servers on August 31, 2012.   It'd have to be 2032 for your claim to be accurate on that.

 

That said, the rest, as mentioned already is simply your spinning things again.

[Sanguinesun]

Patch just now:

 

Fiery Melee

 

Breath of Fire
All changes to this power have been reverted

Fiery Aura

 

Burn
While under the effect of Fiery Embrace, Burn will spawn a second burn patch for 4.5 seconds

 

 

So basically they're allowing a mini 2nd burn patch only when FE is up. 

[Skoochy]

49 minutes ago, Sanguinesun said:

 

Hasn't been around for 20 years?   Um, the game shut down the official live servers on August 31, 2012.   It'd have to be 2032 for your claim to be accurate on that.

 

That said, the rest, as mentioned already is simply your spinning things again.

The way burn and irradiated ground patches work are not bugs and if they were, the game was around long enough for the devs, past and present to fix them. They are only being "fixed" now to address AE farming.

[Without_Pause]

14 hours ago, Skoochy said:

Just because you don't like how something was designed or works, doesn't make it a bug.

Whatever tin foil.

[BrandX]

18 hours ago, Skoochy said:

The way burn and irradiated ground patches work are not bugs and if they were, the game was around long enough for the devs, past and present to fix them. They are only being "fixed" now to address AE farming.

 

From what I've read, the Burn changes have only effected how Burn works as a ST DPS attack and the AOE is fine.

 

I know I logged into test and ran a fire farm on my Ice/Fire/Arctic Brute and did just fine.

 

I'd suspect better on survival (I didn't die before but still) due to the HP Buff with Consume and the +Regen with Temp Protection.

 

So, at this point, I would just have to ask, is all those buffs worth the ST DPS lose, and for normal PvE play, while I'm not 100% sure, I'm thinking maybe.

 

Still, I'd like more Cold Resist 😛

[Sanguinesun]

15 hours ago, Without_Pause said:

Whatever tin foil.

 

I think what you meant to say there was,

 

"I got embarrassed for making error laden comments that were trying to support my poor stance and agenda so now I'm going to further erode the validity of said stance by engaging in ad hominem."

 

7 hours ago, BrandX said:

 

From what I've read, the Burn changes have only effected how Burn works as a ST DPS attack and the AOE is fine.

 

I know I logged into test and ran a fire farm on my Ice/Fire/Arctic Brute and did just fine.

 

I'd suspect better on survival (I didn't die before but still) due to the HP Buff with Consume and the +Regen with Temp Protection.

 

So, at this point, I would just have to ask, is all those buffs worth the ST DPS lose, and for normal PvE play, while I'm not 100% sure, I'm thinking maybe.

 

Still, I'd like more Cold Resist 😛

 

The changes for burn do affect both aoe and st due to the proc changes and the changes to the patches though the fiery embrace lil short 2nd patch helps lessen the change its not significantly impactful due fiery embrace not being able to use used in every attack chain nor even every mob group encountered due to the recharge time(even at 400% recharge with primary sets using recharge procs).

Edited October 9, 2022 by Sanguinesun