The Ignore Function

[Ruin Mage]

It didn't go poof, I thought it got flagged as suspicious. Twitter thought it was a spam bot. Which is hilarious

[Black Zot]

2 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said:

So I got curious and tried to add myself to ignore...

 

It didn't work out, I guess I'm just too powerful to ignore.

 

I guarantee you that bit of code was added specifically because you weren't the first person to try that.

[Sanguinesun]

1 hour ago, Shadeknight said:

It didn't go poof, I thought it got flagged as suspicious. Twitter thought it was a spam bot. Which is hilarious

 

As I said, it went poof:

 

Profile / Twitter

 

Bayonetta director Hideki Kamiya’s Twitter account disappears amid voice actor controversy - Dexerto

[Crystal Dragon]

Just now, Sanguinesun said:

 

As I said, it went poof:

 

Profile / Twitter

 

Bayonetta director Hideki Kamiya’s Twitter account disappears amid voice actor controversy - Dexerto

Heh. Just deserts, imho.

[Sanguinesun]

21 minutes ago, Crystal Dragon said:

Heh. Just deserts, imho.

 

Exactly since called non-Japanese insects and declared "rules" that he'll block any non Japanese post in responses to his posts (yet write that threat in English) and then treat/comment poorly about that voice actress as he did in his response to her video posts concerning the way she was treated.  

[MistressOhm]

1 hour ago, Sanguinesun said:

Exactly since called non-Japanese insects and declared "rules" that he'll block any non Japanese post in responses to his posts (yet write that threat in English) and then treat/comment poorly about that voice actress as he did in his response to her video posts concerning the way she was treated.  

 

Yeeah, sorry, no.  If you're going to go Full Diva like that, social media is probably not right for you.  The Twitter "Ratio" is not only swift, and brutal, it remains long after the conflict ends.

[TwoDee]

It is perhaps the nature of the era and place of the internet that I came up in (to wit: Newgrounds, SomethingAwful, 4Chan, circa the early aughts) that I don't often make use of ignore functions, because the level of overt and visceral filth spewed by contemporary internet posters is fairly milquetoast compared to my own jaded baseline.  I tend to take a very 'Thunderspy' attitude that there is no perfect means to absolve oneself of the responsibility of taking an active role in one's own self-care, which can include avoiding distressing interactions on the internet.  Tragically, we cannot reasonably expect to never, ever have to deal with the malignant fuckwits who make up a not-insubstantial portion of the human species, especially not on cesspools like "General" chat channels and "Official Forums," and so good netiquette demands both a reasonably thick skin and a good gauge for when there's nothing to be gained from engagement.

 

Aspirationally, would it be good to not be confronted with a Boschian hellscape of rhetorical vomit when entering any wide-audience internet forum?  Certainly.  But the Moderators here are doing about as well as we should expect volunteer tone police to do when confronted with the slavering tide of primal human Id that is opinions on the internet.

 

That is to say, I highly endorse the use of proactive tools like the ignore function, despite making very little use of them.  Unlike others in this thread, I will not intimate that maybe people on the internet will change their minds and become better so you should give them a chance.  Those are not Vegas odds.   If they were improving and growing as a person, they probably would be outside doing something worldly rather than getting in circular fights on an internet forum about an old MMO.  Misery loves company, and despite how Misery acts, Misery isn't entitled to your or anyone's eyeballs.  The responsibility falls on you to curate your own experience when imperfect moderation fails.

 

 

[Lyrium]

13 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said:

So I got curious and tried to add myself to ignore...

 

It didn't work out, I guess I'm just too powerful to ignore.

Not sure what would be the problem. I mean, I ignore myself on daily basis.
"I should stop smoking" - yeah, ignored

"I should go to the gym" - ignored too

"Let's have a beer or something" - actually, I cannot ignore that one. Maybe it's a bug

[srmalloy]

13 hours ago, Crystal Dragon said:

Heh. Just deserts, imho.

And an increasingly-rare example of using the term correctly, rather than the incorrect 'desserts'.

[TheOtherTed]

15 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said:

I'm the outlier sitting at 2.

There you go again, ruining the curve for the rest of - wait, who are you?

[Parabola]

3 hours ago, TwoDee said:

slavering tide of primal human Id that is opinions on the internet.

Wonderfully well put.

[Ironblade]

7 hours ago, TwoDee said:

Aspirationally, would it be good to not be confronted with a Boschian hellscape of rhetorical vomit when entering any wide-audience internet forum?  Certainly.  But the Moderators here are doing about as well as we should expect volunteer tone police to do when confronted with the slavering tide of primal human Id that is opinions on the internet.

You should be writing poetry.

[Seed22]

7 hours ago, TwoDee said:

 

That is to say, I highly endorse the use of proactive tools like the ignore function, despite making very little use of them.  Unlike others in this thread, I will not intimate that maybe people on the internet will change their minds and become better so you should give them a chance.  Those are not Vegas odds.   If they were improving and growing as a person, they probably would be outside doing something worldly rather than getting in circular fights on an internet forum about an old MMO.  Misery loves company, and despite how Misery acts, Misery isn't entitled to your or anyone's eyeballs.  The responsibility falls on you to curate your own experience when imperfect moderation fails.

 

 

I think this sums it up nicely.

 

I resonate with the highlighted portion. It's why I stopped being so well, argumentative. It's not benefiting me, the other individual, or well any others caught up in the argument. I wanted to pass along this tool so that others can maximize enjoyment of visiting these forums, cutting out the arguments and whatnot, and once they're done still have ample energy to focus on real world matters, or the actual game if they so choose.

[Sanguinesun]

19 hours ago, MistressOhm said:

 

Yeeah, sorry, no.  If you're going to go Full Diva like that, social media is probably not right for you.  The Twitter "Ratio" is not only swift, and brutal, it remains long after the conflict ends.

 

He's reinstated his twitter account now and seems to have gone right back to his mass blockings.

Edited October 17, 2022 by Sanguinesun

[Black Zot]

6 minutes ago, Krimson said:

Let him do his worst. He's going to find out just how many players are displeased about this, and blocking is going to become a full-time job. I have no sympathy for a company that treats a voice actor like a fast food worker. 

 

Especially when that company is based in a country where voice acting is a highly-respected profession.

[Sanguinesun]

11 minutes ago, Krimson said:

I'm sure Kamiya has all sorts of respect for JAPANESE voice actors... 

 

Not really.  Pay and respect for workers in the industry in Japan, just like the manga mills, is pretty low, --especially-- if you're a woman.

[Sanguinesun]

2 minutes ago, Krimson said:

The top 10 are pulling more than a million per year, including Kana Hanazawa. I'm speaking more of Kamiya's personal disdain of anything not Japanese. 

 

As I noted before, he does have an almost Japanese-Imperial-Flag-Waving-Black-Bus(if you're aware of that culture) dislike for non Japanese.

 

Also this might be an insightful Hanazawa interview for you related to some of the practices of things in Japan.  English translation option on the page may but a bit difficult to follow though as its not a great translation set up.  Voice actor, Kana Hanazawa and women's talk! | Tokyo tsumitate daughter | Marui | Marui (transer.com)  If you can read it in Japanese, it's better(just click the lang option at the top).

[Snarky]

The only Japanese people I ever socialized with were at Dojos, and it was pretty casual while being strangely formal.  The exception was a pal I had in my late teens.  We hung out for almost two years together.  He was a trouble maker from a good family....so they shipped him to America.  We drank beer and did some street racing, and various strange substances as we found them.  We were even stupid enough to drive to Compton to score weed.  More than once. Basically I know almost nothing about the japanese culture.  I asked him to teach me Japanese (we were in the same damn martial arts class) and he flatly refused. 

 

I believe what we might be seeing is pure greed disguised as "brand X nationalism"  I think there is a lot of that in the world.  When you are being a truly greedy shit a great way to distract people is wave a flag around.

 

 

 

[Sanguinesun]

22 hours ago, Krimson said:

I've never met a Japanese person I didn't like, which is why I never want to meet him. The interview is pretty neat once I got myself in the right headspace to read it. 

 

The mrs is actually Japanese. 

 

21 hours ago, Snarky said:

The only Japanese people I ever socialized with were at Dojos, and it was pretty casual while being strangely formal.  The exception was a pal I had in my late teens.  We hung out for almost two years together.  He was a trouble maker from a good family....so they shipped him to America.  We drank beer and did some street racing, and various strange substances as we found them.  We were even stupid enough to drive to Compton to score weed.  More than once. Basically I know almost nothing about the japanese culture.  I asked him to teach me Japanese (we were in the same damn martial arts class) and he flatly refused. 

 

I believe what we might be seeing is pure greed disguised as "brand X nationalism"  I think there is a lot of that in the world.  When you are being a truly greedy shit a great way to distract people is wave a flag around.

 

 

 

 

Nah xenophobia is rather pervasive in the culture and complicated.   There are of course many many JP folks who are not but many also dont realize how xenophobic they are.

Edited October 18, 2022 by Sanguinesun