Martial Arts attack chain ATO proc placement?

Thrax · May 11, 2023

Finally gonna remake my main from live. What’s the best attack chain? And where to put the crit proc chance? Money no issue. It’s /sr if that matters. Prefer no snipe.

Uun · May 12, 2023

If you're going for maximum DPA (and not taking a snipe), the 4 best attacks are Storm Kick, Crippling Axe Kick, Crane Kick and Cobra Strike. You can chain these in any order pretty easily. With sufficient recharge you could drop to 3 attacks if you had something else you wanted to take. Since you're skipping Eagle's Claw, there's not really a heavy hitter you're using as a finisher. CAK is the highest damage of the 4 but not by much. I put the Critical Strikes set in Cobra Strike (since I slot a KB>KD in Crane Kick).

Thrax · May 12, 2023

Eagles claw that bad? Seems to be doing well enough leveling after crit chance. And the stacked stun with cobra strike seems good. Guess that isn’t what I asked though either.

SomeGuy · May 12, 2023

I've had really good results with this build:

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Ti Kwan Leep: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick
Level 1: Brawl
Level 14: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
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(A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(31) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(37) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(46) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 1: Ninja Reflexes

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(48) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 2: Danger Sense

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 4: Shinobi-Iri

(A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
(13) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(45) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(7) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
(7) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
(9) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Focus Chi

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(15) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(15) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(17) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance

Level 8: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(13) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance

Level 10: Kuji-In Rin

(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 12: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Boxing

(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold
(45) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 16: Seishinteki Kyoyo

(A) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self

Level 18: Crippling Axe Kick

(A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(19) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
(19) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(21) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(21) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage
(23) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 20: Kuji-In Sha

(A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
(40) Preventive Medicine - Heal
(43) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
(43) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
(48) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(48) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance

Level 22: Super Jump

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
(23) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(31) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(47) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 24: Tough

(A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
(25) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
(37) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
(37) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 26: Dragon's Tail

(A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
(27) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(27) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
(29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 28: Bo Ryaku

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 30: Weave

(A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
(36) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Shield Wall - Defense

Level 32: Eagles Claw

(A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime
(33) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
(34) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(34) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(36) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 35: Zapp

(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(39) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(39) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(40) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(40) Decimation - Chance of Build Up

Level 38: Maneuvers

(A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
(47) Shield Wall - Defense
(50) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 41: Ball Lightning

(A) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(42) Ragnarok - Damage
(42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(43) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy

Level 44: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 47: Vengeance

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Kuji-In Retsu

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Critical Hit

(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
(45) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 1: Swift

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 1: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 1: Health

(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(5) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(5) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
(34) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration

Level 1: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(17) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self

Level 49: Quick Form

Also, Eagle's Claw gives you a buff that increases your chance to crit for 2s with martial art's attacks. So if you aren't taking a snipe, I'd seriously think about taking EC. I have the CS proc in EC, so when it goes off I have almost an 88% chance to crit with Storm Kick and Crippling Axe Kick right after that. I'm not sure what your chain would be without a snipe, but for me personally it was:

EC-SC-CAK-Snipe

For AOE you can pop buildup, Eagle's Claws, then Dragon's Tail.

Thrax · May 12, 2023

I’ve got a proc’d out build in mids still working on.

Uun · May 12, 2023

3 hours ago, Thrax said:

Eagles claw that bad? Seems to be doing well enough leveling after crit chance. And the stacked stun with cobra strike seems good. Guess that isn’t what I asked though either.

I do have Eagle’s Claw in my build, but mainly because I like the animation. I throw it in for color or if I need a heavy hitter. It’s not bad, but it will lower your DPS.

Thrax · May 13, 2023

Where does it say EC boosts crit rate? I am by no means doubting you, just how is one supposed to know this. Only thing I can see is it says plus special but doesn’t even say what they is.

Nyghtmaire · May 13, 2023

Here ya go:

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=scrapper_melee.martial_arts.eagles_claw&at=scrapper

Thrax · May 13, 2023

6 hours ago, Nyghtmaire said:

Here ya go:

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=scrapper_melee.martial_arts.eagles_claw&at=scrapper

So every power you need to check a different site to see what it does?

InvaderStych · May 13, 2023

Thrax · May 13, 2023

Oh it’s for sure first world problem. Just unsure how I was suppose to know. Need to read up might be missing stuff on other powers.

stryve · May 14, 2023

It's a bit of a debate between having your highest damage attacks benefit and maximizing proc chance. I ended landing on the maximizing proc chance end of things. To that end, if you take Eagles Claw I'd stick the Critical Strikes proc there. Otherwise, Crippling Axe Kick is probably the next best for chance to proc. I did try putting it in Storm Kick for a while so CAK and EC could benefit, but even with using SK twice per rotation it procced much less often. Plus, Eagles Claw with Critical Strikes proc followed by Dragon's Tail results in an awful lot of critical hits in a mob.

My preferred single target rotation in EC-SK-CAK-SK-repeat, switching to EC-DT-SC-CAK-repeat in the middle of a large mob. That does take a lot of Global Recharge to pull off, but SR gives you plenty of opportunity to build it in.

Eagles Claw does state that it has a higher crit chance than other MA powers in the description, but if I hadn't seen it mentioned here on the forums I might not have realized the effect lasts a couple seconds longer than the animation. It is noticeable once your watching for it, though.

Thrax · May 15, 2023

I’m messing with proc in eagles claw while leveling now. Still just 40. Seems good. I’m leaning toward ec-sk-cs-sk and doing the same with dt when in mobs. I’m sure cak is better I just don’t like either animation. I also like the stacking stuns from ec and cs. May forgo hasten and throw in crane kick instead of second sk. I do love kicking the shit out of stuff and it go flying.

InvaderStych · May 15, 2023

On 5/13/2023 at 8:45 AM, Thrax said:

Oh it’s for sure first world problem. Just unsure how I was suppose to know. Need to read up might be missing stuff on other powers.

Fair enough. City of Data is an amazing resource (once I figured out how to read what I was reading ... mostly, still a lot I don't grok), and I'm quite glad that its maker(s) keeps(keep) it maintained. If the Meta is part of a player's fun-time, then it's definitely the place to go.

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/help.html?page=overview

Aside from Word Of InternetMouth, idk how to get the word out either. I think there is a pin about it in either Guides or Tools; if there isn't there should be.

🍻

Edited May 15, 2023 by InvaderStych
singular/plural mis-match hurt my soul

Thraxen · May 23, 2023

Here is what I'm currently playing. Did fine in 2* ITF. On 4/8 regular ITF I was missing a lot more than I'd like, even with FA running. Is my acc just too low?

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Edited May 23, 2023 by Thraxen

BuiltDifferent5 · May 23, 2023

Taking a look at @Ston’s recent testing I was surprised to see MA perform so well. The ignorant side of me just thought that, since it lacked the +Def that Tankers and Brutes get, that it just doesn’t jive with a Scrapper as much.

The added crit bonus from Eagle’s Claw must really make a difference though.

bustacap · May 26, 2023

I think it always had the crit bonus. Brutes and tanks got +dam on port. They also got +def to all on storm kick for some reason. It's a whopping +15% def on the 2nd highest dpa power for tanks.

Sovera · May 26, 2023

18 hours ago, bustacap said:

I think it always had the crit bonus. Brutes and tanks got +dam on port. They also got +def to all on storm kick for some reason. It's a whopping +15% def on the 2nd highest dpa power for tanks.

10%, but yes. 7.5% for Brutes.

Thraxen · May 26, 2023

Here is what I ended up respec'n too. Fantastic. Have time after EC for both DT and the Exploding Shuriken. The chance to immob being ice after it explodes looks cool, although it makes little sense.

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