honoroitisfantastic POLL: Dominator - best of AT 2023

[honoroit]

POLL: Dominator - best of AT

 

- best primary

 

- best secondary

 

- best epic power pool

 

¡you can choose however you like!

• Most Effective Tactic Available
• My favorite
• My desert island power picks
• If there could be only 1

[honoroit]

tough to choose, I went with symphony / fire / mace

 - symphony is damagey, has great cones, and the pet echo adds a LOT of magnitude

 - fire is fire, and has fire breath

 - mace has 2 proc monsters

 

also, and very close or equally good:

 - elec / earth / leviathan --- so good, even with sleep patch not benefiting from domination

 - plant / thorn / leviathan --- mhm

 - fire / savage / mace --- also damagey

[Thrax]

On 9/16/2023 at 10:20 AM, honoroit said:

POLL: Dominator - best of AT

 

- best primary

 

- best secondary

 

- best epic power pool

 

¡you can choose however you like!

• Most Effective Tactic Available
• My favorite
• My desert island power picks
• If there could be only 1

 

I like the polls.  What is the gif from though?  

 

[Dr_Snokle]

13 hours ago, Thrax said:

 

I like the polls.  What is the gif from though?  

 

 

If I would guess the Monogatari series

[honoroit]

its figs

 

also Figs, the part timer

[Dr_Snokle]

20 hours ago, honoroit said:

 

its figs

 

 

also Figs, the part timer

I mean yes it could be Lucifer, but Aragagi was my first idea.

 

For the Poll, Plant is probably the best imo, then Psi, probably Psi for epic as well.

 

I have my my dom combo I love the most probably is my ice/psi dom.

Edited September 22 by Dr_Snokle

[Frosticus]

While my main dom is earth/psi/psi I voted earth/psi/soul

 

Earth stands out as an aoe control set with fast cast times. While its single target control is less than many others (slow hold, no confuse) the pet can control AV's... which is pretty unique and probably more useful.

Psi cause drain psyche is just a big step up in so many situations

Soul because soul drain is really good on an AT that lacks many good sources of tohit and damage buffing and dark obliteration.

[MoonSheep]

interesting that psi mastery is so popular despite being a dreadful choice for dominators

[honoroit]

15 minutes ago, MoonSheep said:

interesting that psi mastery is so popular despite being a dreadful choice for dominators

 

hm, it's quite excellent, in skilled hands!

 

mind probe - ludicrously quick, hard hitting, and works well against things that have a psi hole, many do... just people complain psi+bots.

tk thrust - a gtf off me power, also hits hard and fast

 

mental blast - solid damage, recharge debuff effect

 

psychic scream - see that group immob, scream a fan over all of them.

 

drain psyche - good recovery / sustain, lasts for a bit.

 

psi lance - pew

 

psi shockwave - quickly recharging, quick casting. does job, has disorient (works well with earth staligmites, or symphony, or dark).

 

---> whats better? thorns! or maybe savage.

 

 

 

• Level
  Available
  Power
  Name
  Short
  Help
• 1
  Mind Probe
  Melee, High DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 1
  Psionic Dart
  Ranged, Light DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 4
  Telekinetic Thrust
  Melee, Moderate DMG(Psionic/Smash), Foe Knockback
• 10
  Mental Blast
  Ranged, Moderate DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 16
  Psychic Scream
  Ranged (Cone), Light DMG(Psionic), Foe -Recharge
• 20
  Drain Psyche
  PBAoE Foe -Regen, -Recovery; Self +Regen, +Recovery
• 24
  Subdue
  Ranged, Moderate DMG(Psionic), Foe Immobilize
• 28
  Psionic Lance
  Sniper, Extreme DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 30
  Psychic Shockwave
  PBAoE, Light DMG(Psionic), Foe Disorient -Recharge

 

 

Edited September 23 by honoroit

[MoonSheep]

10 minutes ago, honoroit said:

 

hm, it's quite excellent, in skilled hands!

 

mind probe - ludicrously quick, hard hitting, and works well against things that have a psi hole, many do... just people complain psi+bots.

tk thrust - a gtf off me power, also hits hard and fast

 

mental blast - solid damage, recharge debuff effect

 

psychic scream - see that group immob, scream a fan over all of them.

 

drain psyche - good recovery / sustain, lasts for a bit.

 

psi lance - pew

 

psi shockwave - quickly recharging, quick casting. does job, has disorient (works well with earth staligmites, or symphony, or dark).

 

---> whats better? thorns! or maybe savage.

 

 

 

• Level
  Available
  Power
  Name
  Short
  Help
• 1
  Mind Probe
  Melee, High DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 1
  Psionic Dart
  Ranged, Light DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 4
  Telekinetic Thrust
  Melee, Moderate DMG(Psionic/Smash), Foe Knockback
• 10
  Mental Blast
  Ranged, Moderate DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 16
  Psychic Scream
  Ranged (Cone), Light DMG(Psionic), Foe -Recharge
• 20
  Drain Psyche
  PBAoE Foe -Regen, -Recovery; Self +Regen, +Recovery
• 24
  Subdue
  Ranged, Moderate DMG(Psionic), Foe Immobilize
• 28
  Psionic Lance
  Sniper, Extreme DMG(Psionic), Target -Recharge
• 30
  Psychic Shockwave
  PBAoE, Light DMG(Psionic), Foe Disorient -Recharge

 

 

 

 

psi mastery 🙂

 

whilst we’re in discussion i do also think psi assault on doms is quite forgettably average thesedays. it used to be S tier on live. but now it’s not bad, not good, just there doing its thing

 

i think it remains a popular choice because of how good it used to be 

 

i suppose for context on my position, i play fire assault and like quick, high end damage. energy assault also appealing for the same reason

[EnjoyTheJourney]

The OP is on to something when saying that it's hard to pick "best" powersets for dominators. They can all play quite differently according to which controls they best support, whether they're better at single target or AOE damage, and the extent to which they can buff allies or debuff enemies. The masteries can provide quite different defensive tools, as well. 

 

In the end, different players tend to assign different value to the controls a set brings to the table, to single target vs AOE damage, to burst vs sustained damage, to the amount and kind of defenses powersets offer, and to the buffs / debuffs available. A lot also hinges on how well specific primaries, secondaries, and masteries mesh together. Another non-trivial influence on choices is the kind of content players like to run (a solo AV hunter vs an endgame teaming speedster vs always-on-a-budget players). And this probably isn't an exhaustive list of significant differences in what players might value when ranking powersets. 

I chose earth / ice / psi for my picks. Earth offers strong AOE controls and valuable debuffs, making it my favorite primary. Ice is my (new) favorite secondary, although radioactive is a very close second choice for that. Ice offers a good balance between AOE and single target damage when key powers are proc'd up, power up enhances defense totals and damage, and chilling embrace is a strong and versatile power. There are some really good synergies with certain other sets for the ice secondary, as well. For example, the movement and recharge debuffs in the ice secondary pair well with knockdown fields such as earthquake. Psi mastery is unique in what it offers, so it's fairly predictable that views about it are split. I like everything about psi mastery other than the AOE damage pick, which offers strangely low DPS for such a long cast time. The confusion aura more than makes up for the bad AOE damage spell, though, and because it takes zero cast time to do its thing it's easy to underestimate its value in both keeping a dominator alive and in speeding up spawn deletion. 

Edited September 23 by EnjoyTheJourney

[Frosticus]

On 9/23/2023 at 4:52 AM, MoonSheep said:

 

 

psi mastery 🙂

 

whilst we’re in discussion i do also think psi assault on doms is quite forgettably average thesedays. it used to be S tier on live. but now it’s not bad, not good, just there doing its thing

 

i think it remains a popular choice because of how good it used to be 

 

i suppose for context on my position, i play fire assault and like quick, high end damage. energy assault also appealing for the same reason

Psi mastery makes a lot of sense as it rounds out builds with 2 lotg spots, reliable ffb, more defense, outstanding psi protection and as I demonstrated in various vids - woc is really good for melee doms.

 

It is a good overall package that leans more toward protection.

 

Psi Assault is still standing tall. What it lost in the psw nerf it gained back in the quick snipe. Shifting its focus from aoe powerhouse to decent at everything. Psw still hits 16 targets and retains top spot for pbaoes as the others only hit 10...it is also a control power in and of itself.

 

Subdue is one of the best ranged options for the +dam ATO and is an easy 2-3x stack

 

Drain psyche remains the best sustain by a landslide, so if that is important to the player there is little else in contention. 

 

There are lots of good choices. I love /fiery for single target ranged as that is utility in and of itself. I lament the lack of ato slotting though as it restricts primary choice (for me) . It is very different from the tankiness of /psi, or the chain teleporting and aoe mayhem of savage.

 

 

[Thraxen]

On 9/22/2023 at 10:53 AM, Dr_Snokle said:

I mean yes it could be Lucifer, but Aragagi was my first idea.

 

For the Poll, Plant is probably the best imo, then Psi, probably Psi for epic as well.

 

I have my my dom combo I love the most probably is my ice/psi dom.

ice/psi/psi is only dom I’ve enjoyed and gotten all 50 and IO’d and stuff. It’s super fun. Confuses the hell out of everything, and bac basically tank. 

[Dr_Snokle]

9 hours ago, Thraxen said:

ice/psi/psi is only dom I’ve enjoyed and gotten all 50 and IO’d and stuff. It’s super fun. Confuses the hell out of everything, and bac basically tank. 

 

Yeah, I have played around a lot with different epics for the build, but I always fall back to /Psi epic. I feel with Ice it gives a little bit of everything to round out the build. With the buffs to Artic Air getting Domination bonus now, it is magical.

[Dr_Snokle]

10 hours ago, Frosticus said:

Psi mastery makes a lot of sense as it rounds out builds with 2 lotg spots, reliable ffb, more defense, outstanding psi protection and as I demonstrated in various vids - woc is really good for melee doms.

 

It is a good overall package that leans more toward protection.

 

Fully agree with this on Psi Mastery, it is a great swiss knife for layered defense protection. The Res shield is fantastic for S/L/Psi which favors melee Doms as resistance is godly I feel for Doms. Early Mez protection while building first hit of Dom is great. The Mind Link for a nice bonus of +Def and +to-hit, which will usually sit around 25-30% def with IOs adding on the great Res you have, makes you quite tanky. Also Psi Tornado has great mitigation with KD effects which helps more for the soft-lock.

 

Also slapping 7.5 LotGx2 into two low slot powers is amazing.